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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by Serissa View Post
    Now let's do some extra math. Every invasion takes about 15 minutes.

    Before the nerf you get 679176xp for 15*2 mins of "work". That's about 1,7M XP per hour.

    After you get 848621xp for 15*6 mins of "work". That's about 570k XP per hour.

    L2Math indeed.
    And now completion time for every invasion already dropped to 20++ minutes.

    That makes XP per hour after nerf is... about 425k per hour or even less. So f.cking awesome :/
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  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by Serissa View Post
    And now completion time for every invasion already dropped to 20++ minutes.

    That makes XP per hour after nerf is... about 425k per hour or even less. So f.cking awesome :/
    Yeah, it is impossible to do them on more than one char now. Simply because they take a lot longer, and the travel time. As a level 71 warrior, I lack a ton of the flight paths needed, so I mostly just get to do two to be honest.

    Back to dungeon spam, oh the joy.
    Quote Originally Posted by atenime45 View Post
    The 10% reward. It's was unspoken rule that you DONT attack other faction so everyone could enjoy the 10% reward. But now no one cares about that anymore

  3. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    It wasn't a good thing.

    And that is coming from someone that was leveling 7 characters by flying to the points and then watched Netflix on his second screen.
    AFK'ing your way to level 100 is not how the game should work.
    Sure, you can still do that now. But you can no longer do it on 7 characters at the same time.
    Unless you've multiple accounts, its not very likely that you could do 14 invasions in 4 hours. Not even with instant teleport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    It wasn't a good thing.

    And that is coming from someone that was leveling 7 characters by flying to the points and then watched Netflix on his second screen.
    AFK'ing your way to level 100 is not how the game should work.
    Sure, you can still do that now. But you can no longer do it on 7 characters at the same time.
    Except now invasions rank below even questing XP/hr wise.

  5. #225
    they did this same bullshit during mop with battle pets. people were leveling their toons with pet battles fast and they nerfed the shit out of it

    Keep in mind over the weekend a bunch of twitch/youtubers posted videos showing how to afk level alts with invasions and blizzard saw the vids and nerfed the crap out of it. same thing happened with battle pet xp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    So you are telling me that questing in WoW gives more experience than flying to a point and taking a shower? The horror!

    Don't get me wrong..
    I loved the experience you got from them, it was amazing since I didn't felt like doing the WoD-intro one more time or setting up my Garrison (Hate that part!).
    But to me it felt like cheating the moment I started doing it.
    Didn't prevent me from getting my mage to 100, my DK from 84 to 90 and several others way into the 90's, but it was still "cheating".
    Except this is only a timed event until launch, right now there is no reason to do invasions to level unless you enjoy levelling slowly. They killed off a significant portion of Invasions runners. Sure it was only because of the XP, but i saw a lot of them actively helping.

  7. #227
    I'm just glad for whatever discourages AFK'ers from showing up, they were completely useless anyway and the rest of us won't have to unwillingly carry some waste of space leeching off of other peoples' effort. Good riddance.

  8. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by coldrain View Post
    they did this same bullshit during mop with battle pets. people were leveling their toons with pet battles fast and they nerfed the shit out of it

    Keep in mind over the weekend a bunch of twitch/youtubers posted videos showing how to afk level alts with invasions and blizzard saw the vids and nerfed the crap out of it. same thing happened with battle pet xp
    Its always those faggots streamers who ruin the fun for everyone

  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by Twen View Post
    I'm just glad for whatever discourages AFK'ers from showing up, they were completely useless anyway and the rest of us won't have to unwillingly carry some waste of space leeching off of other peoples' effort. Good riddance.
    Think of it this way, then.

    I will gladly follow you into battle.

    I'll wait until you've engaged some boss.

    I'll run in, and use a long-range attack. ONE long-range attack.

    My attack will increase the boss's health, since there's now one more person in combat.

    Which means that it will have opportunities for a few more hard-hitting attacks on YOU.

    Meantime, I'm in some safe spot outside the range of their AoE attacks.

    You get the tougher fight, you get the larger repair bill, you get to have me leeching off you even more.

    And what do I get? Well, I get lots of bonus nethershards, and my lowbies get extra XP, and you get to do all the work.

    Sure, I might die a few times. But I'll be sure to whisper my thanks to you, saying "glad you did all that work for me; aren't you glad I helped out?"

  10. #230
    So, how's the experience gain after the recent hotfix buffing mob EXP? Yesterday invasions became useless, but if mobs reward now serious EXP, we can probably tag everything.

  11. #231
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaucho- View Post
    if mobs reward now serious EXP, we can probably tag everything.
    Tagging wont help. If you solo kill a mob at 75 you might get, say, 2000 xp. If someone else tags it as well, you might get 400 xp.

  12. #232
    My mate received XP from sitting on my back while i flew him to the Invasion.

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    Hehehehehe. Whoops. Blizz created an expansion where you need 12 alts to experience everything, but forgot to add new ways to get XP.

    It would be sure nice to have:
    FATEs
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    Deep Dungeons
    Hunting Logs
    Hunting Marks
    Challenge Logs

  14. #234
    Quote Originally Posted by dexx View Post
    Tagging wont help. If you solo kill a mob at 75 you might get, say, 2000 xp. If someone else tags it as well, you might get 400 xp.
    I've noticed that as well. On my lowbie Priest, I solo'd a mob and received over 1000 xp but when I went to the next one others joined in. After he died I received 2 xp. I was like, two!? Really? That sucked. :/

  15. #235
    With the changes to mob XP I am about even or a little bit better than before the nerf, low level players seem to be at an advantage here (got 4k on a mob without rested bonus at level 60, and 7k on the same mobtype with level 91) and heirloomed low level toons kill the mobs significantly faster.
    But this only works if you have a place for you to farm alone - as soon as there is another player (especially if he is high level) the XP plummets to the ground (literally from 15k to 80).
    So during main hours you hardly will get a shot on high XP.
    They should simply fix the XP to give a certain percentage of your level per mob, regardless who was else tagging it, or if this is easier they should remove XP sharing altogether for the invasions.

  16. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by PragmaticGamer View Post
    Think of it this way, then.

    I will gladly follow you into battle.

    I'll wait until you've engaged some boss.

    I'll run in, and use a long-range attack. ONE long-range attack.

    My attack will increase the boss's health, since there's now one more person in combat.

    Which means that it will have opportunities for a few more hard-hitting attacks on YOU.

    Meantime, I'm in some safe spot outside the range of their AoE attacks.

    You get the tougher fight, you get the larger repair bill, you get to have me leeching off you even more.

    And what do I get? Well, I get lots of bonus nethershards, and my lowbies get extra XP, and you get to do all the work.

    Sure, I might die a few times. But I'll be sure to whisper my thanks to you, saying "glad you did all that work for me; aren't you glad I helped out?"
    Except that a single attack is not helping at all, as you also pointed out yourself. Instead of sitting on your ass in some safe spot after tagging them once, you could actually fight them. Now that would be helping and many lowbies actively do it. There's really no excuse not to since they do scale.

    Edit: There are also max lvl AFK'ers, so it's not just a lowbie thing.
    Last edited by Twen; 2016-08-17 at 02:41 PM.

  17. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaucho- View Post
    So, how's the experience gain after the recent hotfix buffing mob EXP? Yesterday invasions became useless, but if mobs reward now serious EXP, we can probably tag everything.
    If u kill it solo its great, if one person tags it its shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twen View Post
    Except that a single attack is not helping at all, as you also pointed out yourself. Instead of sitting on your ass in some safe spot after tagging them once, you could actually fight them. Now that would be helping and many lowbies actively do it. There's really no excuse not to since they do scale.
    Why would I fight them if I can just tag and get nether shards?
    Thats what I used on my 100's for farming the shards, tag as many of the skulls I can before they die and just safely stand back, not having to worry about my repair bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    If u kill it solo its great, if one person tags it its shit.
    If they made it so that tagging didn't split it up, it would be great for leveling, atm the in P2 and P4 you get 100 or less XP for tagging

  19. #239
    Invasion would be great for leveling if not this XP sharing. If I solo kill a mob its great, 1200 xp when i was rested, most of the time hovewer around 150 due too many players atacking the mob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamut View Post
    Invasion would be great for leveling if not this XP sharing. If I solo kill a mob its great, 1200 xp when i was rested, most of the time hovewer around 150 due too many players atacking the mob.
    I usually kill the ones with the gold dragon, 12k solo(level 69) and 1.5k-9k with other people

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