Daughter admits to making up rape story to teach dad a lesson

[Dextroden]

When did I say it wasn't a problem. I am saying it's not equal to or worse than being fucking raped.

When you immediately jumped into "Rape is worse than X". People know rape is a problem. Bringing it up now reeks of trying to be the worst off.

And if it wasn't, you really had zero point in your comparison and it was noise.

[Justpassing]

If you make up a false rape claim, the person whose life you just tried to ruin (or in some cases ruined) should have the option of actually raping you to make up for it.

Life isn't porn. Even though that'd be hot

[snackfeat]

This is why a false rape accusation be punished equally to how the "rapist" would have been punished if he was convicted.

[Ryme]

I struggle to see how what you describe is not patronizing.

Patronisation implies a general feeling superiority, infantilisation is more specific and speaks of treating people as if they were immature or child like.

[Torched]

Sadly the girl will face no punishment like usual, sad world we live in.

[mizeri]

the government need to take her of his hand and put her in the system, he will be much safer and she can be happy with her new parents

[Rakoth]

Patronisation implies a general feeling superiority, infantilisation is more specific and speaks of treating people as if they were immature or child like.

I don't think it's infantilisation to treat rape victims with special care. Rape is very widely unreported, which means that our current system is not working to get victims to come out and talk about it / get justice.

This thread is an absolute waste of digital space. False accusations of rape happen at the same rate as false accusations of OTHER FELONY crimes. (About 2%) On the flip side, an estimated 40% of rape cases go unreported. (http://web.stanford.edu/group/maan/cgi-bin/?page_id=297) so yeah, let's totally make it harder for a women or man to report a rape case.

Also: This is a situation where justice won, the system works. Are you really going to make it harder for rape victims to get justice, based on a "Well what if it hadn't worked" scenario. How about we stop living in "supposed" land, and deal with the actual problem where rape victims don't even report the crime.

Some of you are so freaking misogynistic it's a wonder you are capable of having a relationship with a self-respecting member of the female sex.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I don't think it's infantilisation to treat rape victims with special care. Rape is very widely unreported, which means that our current system is not working to get victims to come out and talk about it / get justice.

This thread is an absolute waste of digital space. False accusations of rape happen at the same rate as false accusations of OTHER FELONY crimes. (About 2%) On the flip side, an estimated 40% of rape cases go unreported. (http://web.stanford.edu/group/maan/cgi-bin/?page_id=297) so yeah, let's totally make it harder for a women or man to report a rape case.

Also: This is a situation where justice won, the system works. Are you really going to make it harder for rape victims to get justice, based on a "Well what if it hadn't worked" scenario. How about we stop living in "supposed" land, and deal with the actual problem where rape victims don't even report the crime.

Some of you are so freaking misogynistic it's a wonder you are capable of having a relationship with a self-respecting member of the female sex.

Misogynistic is a strong word. I don't think many people here hate women. The false accusation thing with rape is so big because a life is ruined

BECAUSE OF A LIE. This story is mere proof of that.

[Rakoth]

Misogynistic is a strong word. I don't think many people here hate women. The false accusation thing with rape is so big because a life is ruined

BECAUSE OF A LIE. This story is mere proof of that.

I am using Misogynistic in the sense of lack of trust, not outright hate, but you after reading my post, you are correct, it is too strong a word.

Rape is also a life ruined. In the case of the falsely accused's life being ruined, that's partly our society's fault. People are hanged in the court of public opinion, the judicial system be damned. It's the pillory system, where the accused is left to be shamed in the center of town. A practice that was banned and deemed too cruel.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/ma...life.html?_r=0

There are ways to amend the system, without breaking it. The suggestions in this thread are mostly just uneducated drivel tho...

[Theodarzna]

I am using Misogynistic in the sense of lack of trust, not outright hate, but you after reading my post, you are correct, it is too strong a word.

Rape is also a life ruined. In the case of the falsely accused's life being ruined, that's partly our society's fault. People are hanged in the court of public opinion, the judicial system be damned. It's the pillory system, where the accused is left to be shamed in the center of town. A practice that was banned and deemed too cruel.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/ma...life.html?_r=0

There are ways to amend the system, without breaking it. The suggestions in this thread are mostly just uneducated drivel tho...

Misogyny means hatred for women, skepticism in the law isn't hostility or anything.

[Kieke]

I don't think it's infantilisation to treat rape victims with special care. Rape is very widely unreported, which means that our current system is not working to get victims to come out and talk about it / get justice.

This thread is an absolute waste of digital space. False accusations of rape happen at the same rate as false accusations of OTHER FELONY crimes. (About 2%) On the flip side, an estimated 40% of rape cases go unreported. (http://web.stanford.edu/group/maan/cgi-bin/?page_id=297) so yeah, let's totally make it harder for a women or man to report a rape case.

Also: This is a situation where justice won, the system works. Are you really going to make it harder for rape victims to get justice, based on a "Well what if it hadn't worked" scenario. How about we stop living in "supposed" land, and deal with the actual problem where rape victims don't even report the crime.

Some of you are so freaking misogynistic it's a wonder you are capable of having a relationship with a self-respecting member of the female sex.

lol ur link to prove the 40 % goes to another link to prove it that comes from rainn and has been debunked many times over. and oh no ur not defending a false rape accuser u all hate women.

[Dispraise]

Sad world where a father would not bring charges against his daughter that would destroy her life? Not everyone wants an eye for an eye. Especially not when said eye is the eye of their own child.

He might not want her to face justice, but I do. She's shown herself to be a danger to any man she crosses paths with in the future. At the very least, I would like her to be added to the sex offender registry, for the protection of society.

Yes, I'm being sarcastic, but come on.

[Ryme]

Hmm, I guess you are technically correct. The best kind of correct.

All of my love.

I don't think it's infantilisation to treat rape victims with special care. Rape is very widely unreported, which means that our current system is not working to get victims to come out and talk about it / get justice.

I agree, I just take issue with some of the ways we provide special care and how differently the types of care that are provided differ depending on the sex of the person. For instance, perjury isn't very well considered specifically for rape cases and the recent drive to 'listen and believe' women I find troubling.

[Deleted]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...her-father-ba/




According to the "Listen and Believe" crew, that lawyer is suffering from internalized misogyny, That girl's story is in fact true regardless of her admitting she made it up, and we still need to change the legal system in order to raise the number of people getting convicted of rape and sexual assault......

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But only if they are the correct skin color. Otherwise ignore it.

Vast majority of rape claims are false, by definition.
So... thank you for reminding us that grass is green.

[Torched]

Sad world where a father would not bring charges against his daughter that would destroy her life? Not everyone wants an eye for an eye. Especially not when said eye is the eye of their own child.

His own child that tried to destroy his life, he should not have to press charges against her, the state should press those charges for almost ruining a mans life and wasting shitton of money on this case.

[Themius]

If you make up a false rape claim, the person whose life you just tried to ruin (or in some cases ruined) should have the option of actually raping you to make up for it.

Wow... at what point dowe draw the line.

[Deleted]

Wow... at what point dowe draw the line.

At the false rape claim. Most rape claims are false; the females doing them should serve A LONG sentence.

[Dispraise]

Do you really want to live in a world where fathers are willing to see their children convicted for the greater good? It sounds woefully dystopic to me.

If I were allowed to pick the type of world I lived in, I would choose the one where people just don't do horrible, shitty things to one another. But I can't. And that's a li'l sad.

[Dys]

This is a perfect example of why false rape accusations, that can be proven false beyond a shadow of a doubt, need to have punishment associated with them. Perjury at the very least is a given, considering they are doing exactly that. Is there a law against wasting a courts time? There should be a special one made up for shitbag liars that try to pull this type of stuff.

Defamation, libel and things of that nature should be charged only if the defendant decides to follow through with those charges and/or sue.

Again, only if it's proven false beyond a shadow of a doubt. A sudden breakdown confession when there's light pressure put on the claim is definitely beyond that shadow of a doubt.

[Deleted]

Not exactly, more that we have to take extra measures to be careful around women lest we scare them. I don't think it's necessary, or at least I don't think it should be.

yeah that is patronizing them - you are treating them as if they are weak.
Of course, they are 'paranoid' so you should treat them like that, just dont tell them, because then you are a regressive.
Because in magic feminist land, women are equal to men, even though they by their own words require special protections from men.