Scott Lang was never Giant-Man.
Giant Man was Hank Pym and Bill Foster. And yes, this new guy is linked by a nice little thing called "Bad writing" that takes both Henry Pym and Scott out of character just to introduce a new Giant Man.... for some reason.
Here is a very simple hint if you actually read comic books.
Henry pym would not want to bury another Giant Man.
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Yes, they did, because they took Thor in a different direction and wanted him to have an extended Mythos. They Retconned it rather early in the Thor run. Notice the trend here?
The Retcon was Donald Blake held the latent spirit of Thor.
Eric Masterson held the latent spirit of Thor.
FemThor took a hammer and now she claims to literally be Thor. Her Situation is more like Beta Ray Bill, except she lacks any honour or the good writing of him.
Yep, they've been there.
It just shows he's a clueless moron and would rather have "Cute nonthreatening adventures of stretchy muslim girl" than "The Ballad of Beta Ray Bill"
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Nope. Masterson took on the mantle of Thor because he WAS Thor. He had Thor's divine power.
FemThor is just a lesser Beta Ray Bill whose biggest note in comics right now is being utterly worthless.
That's something every generation has to deal with, a lot of heroes have passed their mantles either temporarily or permanently. It's comics.
Claremont's run was fantastic, sure it was the 80s so half of it was spacey wacey nonsense, but the other half was great character development that eventually gave us the 90s cartoon everyone loves
None of this has anything to do with being able to bend metal by just your thoughts nor being able to control other people or being able to destroy whole cities without any effort. Do you think people would let them live with these powers? No, they would be slaughtered instantly because with those powers they are a threat.
Nobody would feel safe around them or want them in society.
I never said he was, "Second Ant-Man" is how I described him.
What do you mean "for some reason?" Giant super-heroes will always have a place in the Avengers, would you prefer it if they'd called him "Really Big Man" for the sake of originality?Giant Man was Hank Pym and Bill Foster. And yes, this new guy is linked by a nice little thing called "Bad writing" that takes both Henry Pym and Scott out of character just to introduce a new Giant Man.... for some reason.
Here is a very simple hint if you actually read comic books.
Henry pym would not want to bury another Giant Man.
Masterson didn't know he held the latent spirit of Thor (it wasn't revealed early in the run,) all we knew was Thor was otherwise disposed (supposedly banished) and a human being who could wield Mjolnir had the power, responsibilities and name "Thor." The same thing happens with Jane Foster (who was granted the name by Odinson, she didn't claim it herself.)Yes, they did, because they took Thor in a different direction and wanted him to have an extended Mythos. They Retconned it rather early in the Thor run. Notice the trend here?
The Retcon was Donald Blake held the latent spirit of Thor.
Eric Masterson held the latent spirit of Thor.
FemThor took a hammer and now she claims to literally be Thor. Her Situation is more like Beta Ray Bill, except she lacks any honour or the good writing of him.
Thor had like a 20 year stopgap when he was not being published at all.
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Eric only has Thor's powers when he is directly linked to Thor. He becomes Thunderstrike when he gets his own hammer.
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Yeah, difference is the Donald Blake Retcon was done to promote better storytelling.
The one of Jane Foster is stupid shit that has had nothing but stupid stories come out of it.
By the way, this is from Fantastic Four #11, 1961:
Marvel got shitposting on their letters page about how Sue Storm is a useless girl, so they took time out to break the fourth wall just to scold their fanbase about it.
So next time you complain about fem Thor openly addressing the issue in-comic, just remember that it's always been like that.
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When was that, the 90s? Thor originally ran from Journey into Mystery #83, 1962 until #502 in 1996 (was retitled The Mighty Thor in 1966).
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Thor_Vol_1
I'm still reading through the 60s on Marvel Unlimited at the moment so I can't comment on the 90s yet :P
Completely your subjective opinion.
And I'll just remember we're not scolding FemThor for being useless at fighting we're scolding the idea because it's creatively bankrupt and the proof is in the terrible writing of FemThor.
Think about it. The easiest way to compare how shit FemThor is is to use the ballad of Beta Ray Bill. That Story is the perfect example on how to show Thor's powers being worthy by others, Eric Masterson shows this too.
Having Odin suddenly be a crazy old man sounding like a spoiled child while not being able to manipulate the hammer's magic reaks of Deus Ex machina and stupidity and it makes me sad that I could write better. I'll even show you.
Odin shows up, Instantly knows who FemThor is and takes the hammer from Jane Foster. He goes to return it to Thor but Thor is an emotional wreck. Jane is a Dying Cancer patient. Seeing how a fucking cancer patient is able to muster up the courage to be Thor while Thor himself is a indesposed, Odin steps in, Jane is to become Thor on Earth, Thor himself is to stop being a bitch and go on a quest to reclaim the right for the Hammer.
Queue writing two storyarcs of Jane Handling Thor in Earth, with Thor off doing Cosmic level Quest shenangians. We avoid all the stupidly bad wiritng of FemThor and just skip to what they are trying to do now with Thor finding the Ultimate Thor's Hammer.
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Nobody thinks the current Thor run is good. It's basically Eric Masterson with even LESS Thor Mythos and FemThor basically does Nothing ever.
Coming down from the Godbutcher or Old Thor vs Galactus to that shlock makes me wish for another Thor Hiatus.
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I'd also like to note Masterson was Thor for a VERY SHORT TIME, and not like FemThor who is being pushed as the "New face of Thor"
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Oh... we had a Thor in the 90ies.
They aren't mutually exclusive things. But it's kind of moot anyway. The xmen have been used as allegories for civil and gay rights for decades and other comics have been politicised for even longer. Superhero comics being political is nothing new, people are just getting pissy when the politics no longer agree with their own.
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Currently all of the MCU's leads are white men. Seeing other leads who aren't white men makes the MCU's roster more diverse. Such as, for example a muslim teenager. And that's nice because then more people get to feel represented. It's really not hard to understand.
What happened to content of character over irrelevancies?
No, I am getting pissy because the stories are shit. We're not seeing ANY new stories from even HALF of these "New and different types" Instead they flit around being boring as fuck. Actually. let me explain something quite easy.
I like alot of the Legacy guys.
Sam as Nova is good as it's REALLY close to Dick's older days when he was a self-doubting dumbass who never thought he could be a hero, Sam is the same way, he's not a super scientist or even very smart, he does the right thing through gut instinct and he suffers for it, just like Dick did.
Miles is 50/50 On one hand, he's a fun guy who just wants to be spiderman, on the other side, he is overpowered and his stories are ALWAYS solved by him hitting something with stingers and it goes down.
Khamla is adorable, and she is practically a whole new character dealing with whole new issues.
Cho as Hulk is strange, but I like it, it fits in with the Hulk Mythos of a Psyche part being the Gamma anchor point, with Cho it's his Ego. It helps that his first issue was drawn by Cho and was pretty damn pulp with a fantasy warrior princess who captures dangerous animals.
New Avengers is also interesting, with Songbird as a main character.
The issue is honestly, Ironman, Thor and Cap, who are being handled so pisspoorly it just makes their stories boring and lazy.
I mean, look at the new Riri Williams. She's a random Black woman who comes out of nowhere who designs an iron man suit.
Yet we ALREADY HAD Lilia Rhodes who was a Black teenage woman who was building Iron men suits, AND she has links to Warmachine AND she was written well AND had coverage in Secret Wars.
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Why do they need to be Racially Diverse?
Your entire argument here is that you don't LIKE the story. You haven't provided anything to justify calling it objectively BAD. And really, the only real reason you've given for not liking it basically boils down to "girls have cooties" or something.
You've also got a pretty darned weird position on quality of writing with regards to comic books.
We're talking about a book that had moments like this, with the "real" Thor;
His awesome Thor powers of THROWING HIS VOICE, to distract a gangster. Wheee. Such quality top-shelf writing, that.
Sure doesn't seem to actually be the case; sales are up. http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/21/82...-by-30-percentNobody thinks the current Thor run is good.
To be fair, I don't care if they change the characters gender or color, but the writing is terrible in some of the new ones "It's actually about ethics in hammer wielding" or Wonder Woman using her lasso of truth on someone then said he was "mansplaining"