Turkey sends tanks in syria

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http://www.euronews.com/2016/08/24/t...nks-into-syria

A Turkish-backed operation has begun to rid Syria’s northern border of ISIL militants and the Kurdish PYD, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has confirmed.

Turkish tank units are said to have crossed into the neighbouring nation and intense bombardments are reported, with further aerial support provided by the US-led coalition.

The Free Syrian Army also entered the war-torn country near the town of Jarablus, hours after artillery rounds were fired from the Turkish side of the frontier, a military commander has told Reuters news agency.

Turkey has vowed to “completely cleanse” the militants from its border after a suicide bomber believed to be linked to ISIL killed 54 people at a Kurdish wedding in the south east.

However, the Syrian Kurdish Democratic Union Party tweeted that Turkey was entering a “quagmire” in Syria and faces defeat.

It is the first time Ankara has used warplanes over Syria since November, when its forces downed a Russian jet near the border.

Erdogan says the country is seeking to “remove the shadow cast on the Islamic religion” by the self-proclaimed Islamic State (ISIL).

He said he was determined that Syria would retain its territorial integrity

Will they be actively working towards increasing stability or will they just fuel chaos and instability?

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http://www.euronews.com/2016/08/24/t...nks-into-syria

Will they be actively working towards increasing stability or will they just fuel chaos and instability?

Well I think they will do their usual routine of killing as many Kurds ISIS as possible.

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They will just clean the area just over the border, like theyve done before.

They arent going deep into Syria, that wouldnt be too smart.

[ParanoiD84]

They dont like that the kurds are gaining ground in syria. The kurds have done far more then turkey in the fight against isis.

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They will just clean the area just over the border, like theyve done before.

They arent going deep into Syria, that wouldnt be too smart.

Problem is would they give support to rebels while they're at it?

[Mavett]

Well I think they will do their usual routine of killing as many Kurds ISIS as possible.

^ this.

Sucks to be a Turkish tank crew knowing they pretty much field M60's over there, some without even ERA kits, when Syria is littered with ATGM's.

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^ this.

Sucks to be a Turkish tank crew knowing they pretty much field M60's over there, some without even ERA kits, when Syria is littered with ATGM's.

It would be worst if they were littered with ATM!!
BADUM DSSSHHH

[Mavett]

It would be worst if they were littered with ATM!!
BADUM DSSSHHH

Well, sending crews to a guaranteed death is not much of a joke.

[Ulmita]

Meanwhile YPG are USA's homeboys. I want to see how this will turn out for the USA - Turkish relationship.

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Well, sending crews to a guaranteed death is not much of a joke.

Meh... what made you no fun.

[Mihalik]

Will they be actively working towards increasing stability or will they just fuel chaos and instability?

ISIS is on our border!

Meh...let's buy some oil from them, and let a few thousand Jihadis and Jihadi groupies and guns and food trickle through the border.

The Kurds are about to cut ISIS off from our border!

OMG! SEND IN THE TANKS! To "fight" ISIS *cough*. Yes... ISIS.

Common Turkey... stop playing pretend.

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They will just clean the area just over the border, like theyve done before.

They arent going deep into Syria, that wouldnt be too smart.

Although, considering the development in Turkey lately, it wouldn't be surprising if they did do something stupid like that.

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Common Turkey... stop playing pretend.

Between the mass murder of Kurds and allowing sex with kids, Turkey must go down as the country that's gone to shit the fastest in modern history.

[Mihalik]

Meanwhile YPG are USA's homeboys. I want to see how this will turn out for the USA - Turkish relationship.

What it does to the US-Turkey relationship, I hardly give a fuck about. Considering Turkey's behavior in this entire debacle. While Turkey might have not supported ISIS overtly, they sure as fuck did a whole lot of looking the other way and pretending to care.

Kurds on the other hand, I'm worried about. Kurds have a historical record of unconditionally backing the US in all its misadventures in Iraq. They have also been left out to hang over and over and over again, in the name of political expediency.

They supported us in 1991, but we abandoned them to Saddam. They supported us again in 2001 (the only fucking region in that country that didn't need occupying and policing, and wasn't rife with insurgents and loons) then we bundled them into that stupid shit "unity" government we created (that never had any fucking chance to actually rule the whole of the country, as it governs along sectarian lines and rabidly discriminates against Kurds, going as far as refusing to pay Kurdish farmers and businesses for products and goods DELIVERED).

And now while they are basically the only effective force fighting both ISIS and Assad (and they are moderate Muslims, which is a propaganda wet dream for the US) in the region, and the primary protectors of minority groups persecuted by ISIS in the region (the other being Assad, so he isn't on "our" side), we refuse to actually support them with most things they actually need. Like weapons and tanks. Yes we train some of them, and yes we give them air support, but they are still fighting ISIS and Assad with basically makeshift weapons, while the idiotic, incompetent (let's admit, Iranians are doing most of the actual fighting for them) Iraqi's are driving around in circles in the desert in Abrams tanks.

So again, to please Turkey, and our sorta kinda client state Iraq (really increasingly run by Iran behind the scenes) we refuse to really help the Kurds.

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Between the mass murder of Kurds and allowing sex with kids, Turkey must go down as the country that's gone to shit the fastest in modern history.

Turkey has experience with that. The Ottoman Empire. At the end of that shitfest they sorta lucked out with Ataturk, but now they seem to be eager to shit on every principle that guy tried to beat into them.

[W1sp]

I'm sure this has nothing to do with the kurds gaining ground against daesh.

/s

[Independent voter]

They supported us in 1991, but we abandoned them to Saddam. They supported us again in 2001 (the only fucking region in that country that didn't need occupying and policing, and wasn't rife with insurgents and loons) then we bundled them into that stupid shit "unity" government we created (that never had any fucking chance to actually rule the whole of the country, as it governs along sectarian lines and rabidly discriminates against Kurds, going as far as refusing to pay Kurdish farmers and businesses for products and goods DELIVERED).

The Kurds are the main reason we liberated Iraq.

[Scarletlion]

YPG or Isis. The name doesn't matter, both of them are terrorist and thread for Turkey and the region. I am glad we are taking action after what happened in Gaziantep recently. Deal with it.

[Ulmita]

If you think this is about iSIS then i dont know what to say. Turks were the main sponsor along with the Saudis. This is about Kurds not establishing a nation in their borders because they will absorb eastern Turkey as well.

Plus i want to point out, they just send just a handful of Tanks in there. I think 12 or so? This is not anything serious.

[Logwyn]

The Kurds are the main reason we liberated Iraq.

If Sykes–Picot Agreement hadn't screwed the pooch things might different and all this nonsense might not need to have happened today.

[Scarletlion]

If you think this is about iSIS then i dont know what to say. Turks were the main sponsor along with the Saudis. This is about Kurds not establishing a nation in their borders because they will absorb eastern Turkey as well.

Plus i want to point out, they just send just a handful of Tanks in there. I think 12 or so? This is not anything serious.

Yet many Isis bombings happened in Turkey instead of Europe and Israel and they even bombed Medina. Meanwhile no attacks against USA... Hmm how naive you are to think this way?

Also there are not just tanks but also jets, Turkish troops and Turkmen forces. And if you think taking a whole city (Cerablus) back from Isis forces is not ''anything serious'' then i don't know what that is.

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Yet many Isis bombings happened in Turkey instead of Europe and Israel and they even bombed Medina. Meanwhile no attacks against USA... Hmm how naive you are to think this way?

Also there are not just tanks but also jets, Turkish troops and Turkmen forces. And if you think taking a whole city (Cerablus) back from Isis forces is not ''anything serious'' then i don't know what that is.

If the Kurds had taken the city it would have been a big deal - When the Turks do it its not, because the Turks have an Army.