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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Baywatch isn't porn
    No shit clearly u don't get the point.

    Also by the way a Hypocrite is doing something and telling others not to do it. She got famous and made her fortune because of her sexuality and her telling others not to do the same makes her a Hypocrite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post

    Also why can't peoples views change? You know a lot of people who help teens get off drugs are people who use to be drug users themselves, those hypocrites!
    Not the same. Something ruining your life, and then you trying to prevent others from having theirs ruined is one thing.

    You reaping fame, and fortune for something, and then preaching against that very same thing, is the cornerstone of hypocrisy.

    To use your drug example, this isn't a former junky telling teens to not do drugs. This is a Colombian Drug Lord, who already became a billionaire pushing cocaine on the streets, telling people to not do drugs.

    BIG difference there bud.

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    Pamela Anderson telling men not to watch porn is hypocrisy of the highest degree. If your entire carrier was based on selling your own body for other people's pleasure, then you have been contributing to these issues, if they they even are issues in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derah View Post
    Not the same. Something ruining your life, and then you trying to prevent others from having theirs ruined is one thing.

    You reaping fame, and fortune for something, and then preaching against that very same thing, is the cornerstone of hypocrisy.

    To use your drug example, this isn't a former junky telling teens to not do drugs. This is a Colombian Drug Lord, who already became a billionaire pushing cocaine on the streets, telling people to not do drugs.

    BIG difference there bud.
    Show me where she stared in a porn recently

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Show me where she stared in a porn recently
    She hasn't done it recently, but her entire career, fame, and fortune was built on porno. She's reaped vast and ample rewards off the industry. So again, this isn't a former junky telling kids to not ruin their lives.

    This is a colombian drug lord who became a billionaire pushing drugs into the streets telling you to not do drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Show me where she stared in a porn recently
    Her climb to fame was based on selling her own body. Does not matter if it was one decade or two decades ago.

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    Now that shes a used rag, of course shes going to say that.

    She had no problem fucking on screen when it was making her rich, but now that no one will touch her with a 50 ft pole, she has to blame someone or something to be able to explain to herself why her 15 minutes are up.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Derah View Post
    She hasn't done it recently, but her entire career, fame, and fortune was built on porno. She's reaped vast and ample rewards off the industry. So again, this isn't a former junky telling kids to not ruin their lives.

    This is a colombian drug lord who became a billionaire pushing drugs into the streets telling you to not do drugs.
    But you whole narrative revolves around the drug pusher being anti drug is still selling drugs. So basically what you wrote is complete bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Show me where she stared in a porn recently
    (she is not saying only porn, but media itself being sexualized)
    pulling at straws trying to make a point, it's been done, recently or not does not make a difference.
    she's feeling like she's getting to old for the selling her body to the movies business, and before she goes down the dark road to actually becoming old she wants it to seem like this has been her stance and all of a sudden the body she's been using to get hired, isn't what needs be used anymore

    columbian drug lord comparison was a pretty close match to what she's doing.

    yep a hypocrite

    if a woman or man have a hot body and want to share it with the world (any media not just porn) who are we to demonize them and say it's wrong?
    there are only so many roles in movies for the villains who are wrinkled old or just ugly, some comedies get away with it but in general, if the whole cast of the show, no one is cute/hot, guaranteed it won't do well in returning a profit.

    because its the viewers, that have chosen, through generations, what kind of body type they want in front of them, all this time.
    some average looking people have made amazing names for themselves by being amazing actors.

    but if a studio has a choice.

    1. amazing actor, average looking
    2. average actor, amazing looking
    3.average actor average looking
    4. ugly actor amazing looking
    5. godly looking, bad actor


    while 4 may have a chance dependign on role, 1 2 3 5 have a lot higher chance of being chosen
    with the amazing, and sadly godly looking ones having a higher chance yet because in our world of consumption we love eye candy.
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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Frozen Death Knight View Post
    Her climb to fame was based on selling her own body. Does not matter if it was one decade or two decades ago.
    Again I will say, if a former Drug user/dealer told you drugs were bad, you could call them a hypocrite? I call that progressive learning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Again I will say, if a former Drug user/dealer told you drugs were bad, you could call them a hypocrite? I call that progressive learning.
    that is not a comparison, a former drug user did not make millions of dollars.

    if a former comumbian drug lord(hot actress) who made billions (millions) all of a sudden said drugs(sexual media) was bad.
    vs what you're trying to push

    if a former drug user(hot actress) who lost millions(gained...wait gained versus lost...you see where the issue is now?) all of a sudden said drugs(porn) was bad.

    what you're saying is not a proper comparison, you need to replace drug user with someone who pushes drugs onto the massses for it to be valid

    a drug user is comparable to the end user, a consumer of media in that comparison, not the person pushing said content.
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  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Derah View Post
    Not the same. Something ruining your life, and then you trying to prevent others from having theirs ruined is one thing.

    You reaping fame, and fortune for something, and then preaching against that very same thing, is the cornerstone of hypocrisy.

    To use your drug example, this isn't a former junky telling teens to not do drugs. This is a Colombian Drug Lord, who already became a billionaire pushing cocaine on the streets, telling people to not do drugs.

    BIG difference there bud.
    So, having once been a drug lord precludes one from ever realizing (and stating) that "drugs are bad, mmkay?"

    If anything, I'd trust the drug lord's advice on the matter; he's likely seen some shit in his day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anastacy View Post
    So, having once been a drug lord precludes one from ever realizing (and stating) that "drugs are bad, mmkay?"

    If anything, I'd trust the drug lord's advice on the matter; he's likely seen some shit in his day.
    hypocrites can have good advice as well, i'd trust a drug lords advice with a grain of salt though, a recovered drug user i'd trust more, but thats not a valid comparison he was trying to make.

    no one has said hyypocrites can't give good advice, but pamela IS a hypocrite in this.

    i'd trust her word a bit more if she gave up all the wealth she amassed doing such a bad terrible thing as making movies n media, selling her body, even if not sexually, in a sexual way (bare thighs tits bursting out of a bikini etc)

    and if a drug lord gave up all his amassed wealth because he realized drugs were bad, i'd likely take him seriously as well.

    but saying such gains are ill begotten, and continuing to use them to enrich their lives, does not matter what they say, they are hypocrites.
    Still I cry, tears like pouring rain, Innocent is my lurid pain.

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    I agree with her stance. Specially this part: "... given how freely available, anonymously accessible and easily disseminated pornography is nowadays".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christan View Post
    hypocrites can have good advice as well, i'd trust a drug lords advice with a grain of salt though, a recovered drug user i'd trust more, but thats not a valid comparison he was trying to make.

    no one has said hyypocrites can't give good advice, but pamela IS a hypocrite in this.
    Well then "hypocrite" really just isn't negative of a term, as everybody has learned a lesson and changed their stance on at least one thing they used to do.

    If "hypocrite" = "I did bad things, realized they were bad, and now advocate against doing them", then "hypocrites" are some of the best good Samaritans out there!

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    No shit clearly u don't get the point.

    Also by the way a Hypocrite is doing something and telling others not to do it. She got famous and made her fortune because of her sexuality and her telling others not to do the same makes her a Hypocrite.
    I get the point you are just too fucking close minded to understand that someone can change their position on something even if that thing changed their lives forever.

    A lot of fucking pro bodybuilders can thank their entire success to anabolic steroid use but clearly when they see the societal impact, they realize it shouldn't be encouraged among other men.

    If she had said that porn is bad and did a nude playboy shoot after saying that then it would be hypocritical.

    Take this guy for example:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd

    He was a ex-KKK member who became a senator who championed civil rights. Is he a hypocrite? No of course not because he changed his position because people change.

    You are completely dense if you don't understand this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christan View Post
    that is not a comparison, a former drug user did not make millions of dollars.

    if a former comumbian drug lord(hot actress) who made billions (millions) all of a sudden said drugs(sexual media) was bad.
    vs what you're trying to push

    if a former drug user(hot actress) who lost millions(gained...wait gained versus lost...you see where the issue is now?) all of a sudden said drugs(porn) was bad.

    what you're saying is not a proper comparison, you need to replace drug user with someone who pushes drugs onto the massses for it to be valid

    a drug user is comparable to the end user, a consumer of media in that comparison, not the person pushing said content.

    I former Drug DEALER made millions of dollars, and says using drugs is bad, that is a proper comparison and it doesn't make what they say any less true. Someone who changes their ways is not a hypocrite someone who says not do something while doing it is a hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anastacy View Post
    Well then "hypocrite" really just isn't negative of a term, as everybody has learned a lesson and changed their stance on at least one thing they used to do.

    If "hypocrite" = "I did bad things, realized they were bad, and now advocate against doing them", then "hypocrites" are some of the best good Samaritans out there!
    keep it in context
    if hypocrite is the type "i made millions off of doing bad things, but say it's wrong now, and keep using my ill-begotten millions", then i can
    'i made millions robbing banks, but since i say its wrong now everyone can be happy, i get to keep the millions after i get out of jail'
    'i made millions selling drugs, but since i say it's wrong now everyone can be happy, and i get to live out the rest of my life in my penthouse since i was never caught"

    you forgot to add 'if i made millions doing bad things' and keep those millions, and it makes them good samaritans?

    what she is doing may be honorable, in her mind, but it's wrong, it's trying to take away free choice from people and is sexist in the extreme.

    other women and men should be able to do with their bodies as they want

    so while she thinks it's honorable, trying to get choice taken away from people, both buyers and sellers of content, is sexist.
    which is what she's calling what is currently happening?

    it's all about free choice, media will follow the buyers, so will generally hire better looking people.
    but it's the majorities choice, and the actors/esses

    if a hot as hell actor thinks a role is to sexual for them, sure as hell they can decline it and find a better role.
    depending on how good of an actor, your looks, and how popular you have a lot of choice in what you want to act in.

    the only thing wrong with media right now, is the companies aren't forced to hire the wrong people for their roles,
    turning my eye candy movie, into eye vegemite.

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    i wont say she is completely wrong, calling her sexist is a bit extreme but she is approaching it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    To be fair, back when she was relevant, it took more effort to get your hands on porn.
    LOL it certainly was that and we didn't have the variety there is now. I remember having an issue of Playboy with her in it I also had one with Jenny Mc Carthy in it before she went all crazy as shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    I don't make a plate of pasta so someone can steal it, or for someone else to enjoy. So it isn't fair to say a sex tape was made to be stolen, or for other people to enjoy.
    But you still made pasta. In this analogy, pasta is, in and of itself, the problem. Why are you making pasta if it just consumes men's souls?
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    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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