Dalaran sewer is the most annoying thing I found in legion.

[Xentronium]

It's going to be a really annoying grind for that rat...I didn't know about the guards though, I'll give it a shot.

Just grimace and join a rat farming group. I did it yesterday and it took about five hours all up to get the achieve.

[Deleted]

they needed to replace Ashran with something equally bad or worse

[vilememory]

These are the main problems with Dalaran sewers. Lag. Holy shit balls the lag, when the guards take a break and everybody starts going nuts. You are lucky if you don't disconnect. Glitchy guards. Yay I bought a guard, now I can check the BMAH real fast and there gone. You rat bastard didn't even stick with me for twelve seconds!

[Coffeh]

I got my Obliterum Forge and hopefully never have to go to the clusterfuck again.

[Caolela]

how does more time in game benefit blizz you pay for the month if you don't play at all that month or spend tons of time on it doesn't matter to them.

This is hard to figure out?

The longer it takes to do things, the longer you'll be subbed, at least until you've completed the content you want to do; which also means less content they have to create before you've gone through it. Multiplied by millions of players it adds up pretty fast.

[Not A Cat]

I usually hate world PvP, but I think their intention was to make the sewers an absolute clusterfuck of death and destruction that involves zero thought whatsoever. I thought it was pretty fun when I went in my tank spec and didn't die immediately.

My only gripe is the fact that they put a profession quest down there. I'm sure it would have been popular enough without forcing people to go down there and "pvp"

[Spotnick]

I have a feeling some people spend way more time complaining about this than the time they actually had to spend in there.

At least it's purely optional and you can opt out for 5g.. which you were unable to do on Timeless Isle.

I don't mind it, been able to do all my quests with the escort and I have zero complaints except the one time there was a gigantic lag.

[Wingspan]

At least it's purely optional and you can opt out for 5g.. which you were unable to do on Timeless Isle.

On PvE servers, the Timeless Isle stuff was 100% optional and required nothing on the players part to be so.


I did my fair share of PvP over the years, but really only played on PvE servers for any length of time, so I understand the desire to be in control of your flagging.

I think Blizzard screwed up here in that they should have just made the area FFA when you actively chose to flag yourself (on PvE servers). It would have been simple and I think they could have avoided a whole lot of rage.

[TirielWoW]

Or pay the small sum of 5 Gold at the guard captain and evade PVP if you're a pussy

I actually pay for the guard not because I don't like PvP - I don't mind it in most situations. I pay it because I lag out so badly in the Underbelly when there's a large number of people in there that I literally die before I can see who is killing me. And that, my friend, is simply not enjoyable.

[ComputerNerd]

Or pay the small sum of 5 Gold at the guard captain and evade PVP if you're a pussy

It does not make someone a pussy if they choose to play on a PvE realm, or avoid what is going to be near slideshow experience for many.
There are reasons to be there other than PvP.

As a new idea it has merits, but as a new idea I think it still has issues.

I actually pay for the guard not because I don't like PvP - I don't mind it in most situations. I pay it because I lag out so badly in the Underbelly when there's a large number of people in there that I literally die before I can see who is killing me. And that, my friend, is simply not enjoyable.

Indeed, dropping to single figure framerates is not fun.

[TirielWoW]

Indeed, dropping to single figure framerates is not fun.

I'm kinda wondering if there's something weird with the giant ogre costume, because I seem to have the most trouble when there's like, 25 people with that one on running around down there.

[Maelleous]

Good thing I never bought Legion.

On a PvE server because of play style choice.
If Blizz removes that choice, then yes, they do deserve to lose paying subscriptions. (I've a few weeks left on mine)

The term going around for the direction that the game is going in is "Blizztarded."™

Pretty hilarious that a section that is .001% of legion would cause you not to sub because it is forced pvp.

[Sturmbringe]

Most annoying? More like most enjoyable thing in legion, as an 843 Ilvl prot pally i feel like a god down there takes so many people to kill me ( that is if they can kill me ). But in the end if you go down there expect there to be PvP, cant handle the PvP? don't go down there its simple.

So many years have passed since I played Retail, and they still haven't fixed Prot Loladin God-Mode in PvP. I am guessing that you need a raid group of 10 people or so to kill a Protadin.

This is not PvP, this not Warcraft. What a joke.

[Cerus]

Isnt it only for the forge quest that takes like 10mins?

I had other profession quests that took me there. The forge requires you to go there as well with and without guards. Forced PvP for PvE gear.

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Most annoying? More like most enjoyable thing in legion, as an 843 Ilvl prot pally i feel like a god down there takes so many people to kill me ( that is if they can kill me ). But in the end if you go down there expect there to be PvP, cant handle the PvP? don't go down there its simple.

Any class will die a quick death down there. Especially with the costume buff - Don't exaggerate. I nuked players left and right today with the buff and they couldn't touch me. Tank spec won't save you.

[Dialout]

All they need to do is put a half hour cooldown on calling off the guards, and not let the guards be allowed to go on a break while 50+ people are trying to kill a rare mob or while a rare mob has spawned, period.

It's fucking annoying. It could have been implemented way better but then they decided to add non-PVP elements, some of which are essential to players like crafting recipes and hidden artifact appearances that drops off RARE MOBS not players.

It's a longer wait to be able to call the guards back than it does to call them off, and the bodyguards are useless. They disappear when the guards are called off and they do absolutely shit all when you have an entire room full of people attacking you or throwing down AoE/Cleave abilities.

Having to wait 2min to res (repeatedly) because you were simply trying to loot something before the corpse despawns is infuriating as well.

[Aquinan]

5g for a pvp disabling bodyguard /thread

[Azgraal]

Even I don't like PvP that much and I think it is brutally fun. I've spent like 3h total on it already. Don't like it? Find another place to be and something you enjoy to do on the broken isles.

[Deleted]

I don't mind it's there but I think they shouldn't have made profession quests send you through it. I didn't mind the pvp requirement for the cloak personally, but I still think it's honestly pretty bad to make pvp part of pve questlines.

And I think the majority of players (remember, just by reading, much less posting, on a 3rd-party site we're in the overwhelming minority) won't even realize it's a free-for-all pvp area until they're there. Perhaps not even until they're literally in the middle of the pvp area when the guards leave and the zerg begins.

I don't know about your servers but ours has been absolute shit since 2 days after I dinged 110, whenever that was. When it was a free for all mass melee it was fun. Then people started making raidgroups to farm the rares for sightless eyes so every time you enter there there's 40ppl waiting to gib you. They should just entirely disallow groups down there or something.

[Dialout]

Even better have two separately phased/sharded instances of the place.

Either you are on a PVP server or you have to flag yourself prior to entry, or if you flag yourself/call the guards off you are phased in with an instance where the guards are already called off.

[Foj]

Ehhhh ... it would be fine except when it interferes with regular PvE gameplay. Could be sorted out with two quick fixes:

(1) 60-120 sec notice that the guards are leaving.

(2) Rez in the staging area.