Legion Broke the Auction House

[Koloss]

The GW2 system I felt was pretty robust for the most part.

Want to buy? Find the item, and it shows the lowest price. Need 100, but only 20 of the lowest price? It buys 20, and you buy 80 of the next price up.

Want to sell? Post the item, and it simply marks it 1c cheaper than the last one, so yours will be bought first. Lowest goes fastest. Lots of competition? Pull it and repost at lowest.

I haven't played too much GW2 and only a long ago. But god i actually enjoyed AHing there. I should make more money because i have some goals with gold in this game, but i don't do any AH because it just feels bad and i hate the UI. A worldwide AH with automatic 1 bronze less prices if you want to sell someting, it really felt like there is a real demand-supply market in the game (also the fact that i don't have to click 200 times if i want to buy 200 of something if it's the cheapest in the 1 item stack size). I get it that some people has no problem with the current AH system in the game, but i think they just didn't see any better one and got used to it during the years.

[S7orm]

Do you want a real solution? You can only post 20 auctions of the same item, realm wide. By tomorrow the AH scan will be as fast as any dead pop realm

[Grimbold of Skullcrusher]

I use TSM, the is sooooo slow, that most of the time ( for crafting mats) I just use the default action house layout. Don't even get me started on " auction not found" stuff ...

They really should just merge all the posts with the same price and qty to reduce the page count. Yesterday there was over 100 pages of silk and almost 90% of it was 1 item posts.

Maybe it is just not that bad on my server. But I agree posting crafting mats 1by1 is really annoying.

[Hawg]

Do you want a real solution? You can only post 20 auctions of the same item, realm wide. By tomorrow the AH scan will be as fast as any dead pop realm

I agree. I think this could be implemented by Blizzard via hotfix. Why wait?

[Deleted]

Not problem whatsoever, to buy or sell anything.

Just install whatever addon you like, I'm using TSM because I sell/buy a lot.

Scans for posting/buying takes a few seconds. That's it.

[Bethrezen]

Use TSM. It is superior to auction are in terms of bidding, buying out, bidding and scanning.

[Juvencus]

Did tou read the post? Even with the addon it's impossible. I use auctionator. By the time it processed the 50 pages of ore and I click buyout, it has to rescan and the stack is already sold. Every time.

This is the main reason I switched to TSM from Auctionator. The mid-buy rescans.

But I miss the "Check my auctions for undercuts" feature.

[Hawg]

I use TSM, the is sooooo slow, that most of the time ( for crafting mats) I just use the default action house layout. Don't even get me started on " auction not found" stuff ...

They really should just merge all the posts with the same price and qty to reduce the page count. Yesterday there was over 100 pages of silk and almost 90% of it was 1 item posts.

I’ll add to this my theory on why people are posting hundreds of items as stacks of one (I hesitate to post this here, because I don't want to explain the "scam" and encourage copycats, but I think its important to see the "dark side" of one -item-stacks too.):

It's because the sellers know that on high-pop realms, AH lag makes AH add-ons basically unusable. Knowing that the seller anticipates that many people who need those crafting items will use the default UI to buy what they need. The seller then floods the AH with stacks of one and he makes sure to price the “bid price” so that it is the lowest “bid price”, but he keeps the “buy price” high.

Since the default UI only lets buyers sort by “bid price”, all his stacks will show-up on a default UI search as the cheapest, even though his “buy price” is far from the cheapest “buy price”.

Now the seller is banking on the buyer not noticing that it’s only his “bid price” that is low, and therefore the buyer ends up buying the Seller’s auctions. But even if the buyer is not a fool and knows that it is sorted by “bid price”, the buyer still has to tab through dozens of pages of single stack auctions (with a 20-30sec reload time to each page) to get to auctions with a cheaper “buy price”.

That’s broken. And that’s a bit sleazy. But the fault lies with Blizzard, they should employing fixes to not make this a viable strategy.

[Pull My Finger]

Dumb thread. What does "Legion" have to do with "breaking" the auction house? The AH UI has been insufficient and outdated for a decade now, and idiots posting 1000 single items are just that - idiots. The issue requires attention, but as usual, WoW players just can't go without hyperbole, whining and the usual moronic verbatim, and it's off-putting as hell.

[Hawg]

Not problem whatsoever, to buy or sell anything.

Just install whatever addon you like, I'm using TSM because I sell/buy a lot.

Scans for posting/buying takes a few seconds. That's it.

Are you on a high pop server?

[Deleted]

It´s greatly dependant on the time you try it and seems like a server capacity issue.. In the evening it is best to not try to buy anything on my realm, selling is ok-ish. However around 7.00 in the morning it is fast as lightning. What takes 5 minuts in the evening takes 10 seconds in the morning. (Using TSM Buy / Post scans)

Also: People posting 400 leather with a stacksize of 1 need to get themselves checked out, just stack the fecking items.

Edit: For clarification; I'm on Outland - EU.

[Hawg]

Dumb thread. What does "Legion" have to do with "breaking" the auction house? The AH UI has been insufficient and outdated for a decade now, and idiots posting 1000 single items are just that - idiots. The issue requires attention, but as usual, WoW players just can't go without hyperbole, whining and the usual moronic verbatim, and it's off-putting as hell.

It's worth noting that your post include hyperbole, whining, and is moronic. Was that meant to be parody?

Legion did "break" the AH, at least on high population servers. Now I don't know if its due to increased use, DDOS attacks, or something else, but prior to Legion going live you could buy matts from the AH on high-pop servers, now you can't. That is broken.

[Ambulatory Cube]

But the fault lies with Blizzard, they should employing fixes to not make this a viable strategy.

Pretty much this. "Get an addon" should never be the end-all solution to a problem. Imagine the outrage if a dev came out and said "Just install an addon." Everyone would be screaming "lazy devs!" more than they already do.

The AH needs an overhaul, and it's needed it for a long time. The question is whether this particular issue will be the proverbial straw that breaks the camel's back and sparks that change, or if they'll just tell folks to wait until the new expansion flood subsides.

[Aori]

I dunno, I just sell mats, stacks of 200 scales go in seconds for 3k, I love it.

[Lochton]

And here I thought this was about a broken feature, but it isn't, it is just complaints about the market and sellers.

[Tradu]

The GW2 system I felt was pretty robust for the most part.

Want to buy? Find the item, and it shows the lowest price. Need 100, but only 20 of the lowest price? It buys 20, and you buy 80 of the next price up.

Want to sell? Post the item, and it simply marks it 1c cheaper than the last one, so yours will be bought first. Lowest goes fastest. Lots of competition? Pull it and repost at lowest.

RuneScape works like that as well, pretty nice system tbh. Would also be nice if they added useful filters to the AH(giant pain to find toys, for example, especially because the "Usable" tick does nothing at all for toys.

[thilicen]

They could fix so much by simply allowing people to specify amounts while searching. Just add a "Quantity < / > / =" function already.

[Hashcrypt]

Just keep paying me 90g for my single Felslate auctions and STFU. You're welcome.

[Pull My Finger]

It's worth noting that your post include hyperbole, whining, and is moronic. Was that meant to be parody?

Legion did "break" the AH, at least on high population servers. Now I don't know if its due to increased use, DDOS attacks, or something else, but prior to Legion going live you could buy matts from the AH on high-pop servers, now you can't. That is broken.

Your failure at logic prevents me from further engaging in a fruitless back-and-forth blundery with you. Whine on!

[Ealyssa]

Did tou read the post? Even with the addon it's impossible. I use auctionator. By the time it processed the 50 pages of ore and I click buyout, it has to rescan and the stack is already sold. Every time.

Its either bullshit or auctionator is shit.

Im playing on one of the most populated server in EU. And have no real problem with the ah using TSM. Is it slower than usual ? Sure, there are 60+ pages of everything. But not that long.