Looks like they are really bent on annihilating the class altogether. Maybe Ion got owned by a lock in his guild and now keen on taking revenge
Drain life was allways a survivability tool. When you casted it u did lose damage and gained survivability, its a tradeoff and makes total sence from a designer point of view. In legion they just decided to put a passive for affl to make it a filler spell instead.
And you cant "logicaly" , as you say, compare the shard regeneration of the differend specs. Affl is allmost total random, Demo is absolutely predictable, and destruction is inbetween. With demonology when you want shard you can cast certain spells and there you have them, your shard generators are allmost nonexistant part of your damage. In affliction your shard generator is random but its also your highest dmg dealer, so you ll cast it anyway. Apples and oranges and nothing to do with drain life
Why?
Really curious, its a spell that optimally would never be cast ever. Its got its use in pvp, but really if you're trying to drain tank in pvp as destro I don't really see why you wouldn't just play aff. Would be so much better suited if they just gave destro some kind of proper passive regen like the other specs have instead of a spell we never want to cast.
..and so he left, with terrible power in shaking hands.
Doesn't matter that drain life "was always a survivability tool". Right now it is the affliction filler, and affliction gained a ton of passive survivability from it without losing out on anything. Destro and Demo specifically loses DPS from ever doing it, and that is why it is (very likely) getting changed. How is this hard to understand?
It is not at all apples and oranges. Affliction loses 0 DPS (Unless you don't refresh dots or overcap charges, in which case you are doing it wrong), destruction and demonology both lose a ton of DPS. Discrepancy, poor design, getting fixed.
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Because it restores health quickly as Destruction and Demonology? Not everything revolves around max sustained DPS in a group / raid environment. It has allowed me to solo pretty much all world quests at this point, and without it I would have to spec affliction to do so. I agree entirely that it should be replaced with something else for Demo and Destro, but if it just gets removed and nothing replaces it, then I will be pretty much done with warlock. Not for that alone, but because the development team would be showing a disturbing amount of incompetence with regards to warlocks if that (Drain Life removed, no replacement) was the case.
Tbh more looking for that persons opinion, not someone else speaking for them.
And you can basically solo everything that is soloable without drain life. Generally things that hit hard enough for you to need to drain life hit too hard for you to be able to survive by spamming drain life.
..and so he left, with terrible power in shaking hands.
..and so he left, with terrible power in shaking hands.
Well, I guess resummoning is probably a better course of action. Either way, I'm hoping for something better / more fitting for demonology and destruction than drain life. In my opinion drain life for affliction would be the equivalent of destruction restoring health from incinerate or demonology restoring health from shadow bolt (More than just soul leech).
Demonology and Destruction, Drains life, stays alive gets to generate shards cause dead warlocks don't.
I truly suspect that there is no plan other than "Hey these fucking warlocks are still refusing to just roll over and die and can still solo stuff my precious precious mage can't, take their heals away... again" because this is not the first time this exact thing has been done it is the first time they did it to Demo you know the pet spec that is meant to use their pet as a meat shield and keep it happy n' healthy.
Funnel\Drain is and always has been "part of our kit", and I'd say that given the severe pounding our "kit" has taken, what else have we got?
While gear levels are low you aint gunna deal enough damage to keep your leech shield up on your pet, you have a healthstone (which heals less than a cheap alch pot), you have Mortal Coil(if talented) and that is pretty much it. Warlocks are not designed to kite, warlocks are immobile tanky casters... but apparently they aren't allowed to have the tools to do that, you know the self healing that tanks without high mitigation get cause that is apparently what locks are meant to be? CLASS FANTASY
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When I was younger I used to hope bad things wouldn't happen.
Now I just hope they're at least funny when they do.
Keep emotions/etc in check in here.
As already pointed out there really hasn't been any nerf or anything. Even these are just datamined pieces of info about 7.1 PTR, means nothing and Blizz themselves has even said so.
The removal of Drain Life from both Demo and Dest is not datamined I've been on the PTR and seen it for myself, whether it's a bug or intentional still remains to be seen but even if it's a bug how long have crippling bugs remained live in the past?
Also why wouldn't emotions run fairly high?
A lot of people have an investment of over a decade into their character, I know people who put less effort into their relationships than that.
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When I was younger I used to hope bad things wouldn't happen.
Now I just hope they're at least funny when they do.
..and so he left, with terrible power in shaking hands.
Well I used Health Funnel and Drain Life constantly throughout WoD because I was doing the elite puppies in Nagrand to feed my Barn as Demo spec in the gear I finished leveling in, then I did Tanaan in that same gear and I constantly used Drain Life\health funnel to keep the blueberry alive. Didn't play Destro but Drain Life and Health Funnel were removed for Destro completely at the start of the expansion so no-one had it, so yeah whatever.
MoP yeah never used Drain Life as Demo because the other options we had a lot worked better options we don't have now such as Apotheosis or Health stones that actually heal for a good amount, Destro nope never used Drain Life but Ember Tap was frickin' awesome and the majority of the time you ran with a sac'd pet anyway and also had Soul Link.
None of that means shit in Legion we don't have Ember Tap and Soul Link is very weak and only Demo, we only have gimped Healthstones and Mortal Coil once that Soul Leech barrier is popped and it will be at low gear levels, we also never had to life tap so that is slightly different as well.
Last edited by FertsBlert; 2016-09-16 at 08:56 PM.
When I was younger I used to hope bad things wouldn't happen.
Now I just hope they're at least funny when they do.