Void Lords and Old Gods (Spoiler)

[The Professional]

A few questions.

I always thought Old Gods were gigantic alien parasite creature that uses magic but it seems this book said they were created by the Void Lords.

My question is are the Void Lords servant of the Old Gods? Which side is stronger, Old Gods or Void Lords?

Wasn't Dimensius a Void Lord who destroyed the Entereal's homeworld and we kinda kicked it's ass in a group quest so if Sargeras is afraid of these Void Lords than we shouldn't be that afraid of Sargeras since we kicked a Void Lord's ass back in Outland in the Burning Crusade Expansion. Archimonde a.k.a his right hand man was a pushover.

Below is a picture of a ACTUAL VOID LORD and the smaller figure is Sargeras.

[Fawkess]

Pretty sure there are 2 kinds of void lords

The armorered ones like Dimensius that are not very strong

and the complete overlords the new void lords

[The Professional]

Pretty sure there are 2 kinds of void lords

The armorered ones like Dimensius that are not very strong

and the complete overlords the new void lords

How is Dimensius not strong? he soloed a entire xeno homeworld and we kicked its ass.

[Friendlyimmolation]

How is Dimensius not strong? he soloed a entire xeno homeworld and we kicked its ass.

Dimensious is not strong because we beat the everliving void snot out of him. The void lords Chronicles talk about are absolute rulers of the Void. Old Gods are their creations.

[shoc]

I would imagine the Void Lords and Void Gods that we know of today (Like Dimensius, or Dark Naaru) are akin to Void Elementals, in the same way that the Naaru and Lightspawn are inversely Light Elementals.

So now we have these new entities called "The Void Lords" and we really have no idea what they are, other than the fact that they somehow birthed Old Gods.

What they look like? Well, if all the Old Gods are Lovecraftian in nature, then we could assume that The Void Lords are the ultimate Lovecraftian abberations.

The Void Gods could be like Yog-Sothoth,

"It was an All-in-One and One-in-All of limitless being and self—not merely a thing of one Space-Time continuum, but allied to the ultimate animating essence of existence's whole unbounded sweep—the last, utter sweep which has no confines and which outreaches fancy and mathematics alike. It was perhaps that which certain secret cults of earth have whispered of as YOG-SOTHOTH, and which has been a deity under other names; that which the crustaceans of Yuggoth worship as the Beyond-One, and which the vaporous brains of the spiral nebulae know by an untranslatable Sign..."

or like Azathoth:

"Outside the ordered universe [is] that amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the center of all infinity—the boundless daemon sultan Azathoth, whose name no lips dare speak aloud, and who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time and space amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin monotonous whine of accursed flutes."

[The Professional]

Dimensious is not strong because we beat the everliving void snot out of him. The void lords Chronicles talk about are absolute rulers of the Void. Old Gods are their creations.

Best way to deal with the Chronicle Void Lords is to just send Bolvar and the Scourge into the Void and kick the Void Lord's assess directly. The void can't effect the Dead. Perfect counter.

[shoc]

Best way to deal with the Chronicle Void Lords is to just send Bolvar and the Scourge into the Void and kick the Void Lord's assess directly. The void can't effect the Dead. Perfect counter.

Void can totally affect the dead. There's no reason for Void to not affect Necromancy, they are a completely different school of magic.

[Ryzek]

Best way to deal with the Chronicle Void Lords is to just send Bolvar and the Scourge into the Void and kick the Void Lord's assess directly. The void can't effect the Dead. Perfect counter.

You made this thread for this reply alone.

[Shampro]

Please don't respond to British, we all know hes trolling.

[Golden Yak]

The void lords Chronicles talk about are absolute rulers of the Void. Old Gods are their creations.

So now we have these new entities called "The Void Lords" and we really have no idea what they are, other than the fact that they somehow birthed Old Gods.

The Chronicles preview doesn't mention this. Any source on this Void Lords creating Old Gods thing?

edit - oop, nvm, found the thread. ~Readin'!~

[Candy Cough]

Best way to deal with the Chronicle Void Lords is to just send Bolvar and the Scourge into the Void and kick the Void Lord's assess directly. The void can't effect the Dead. Perfect counter.

Bolvar is not nearly as strong as Arthas, and most likely never will

How does the lich king that was defeated by a single paladin fare against beings stronger than Sargeras?

[Aucald]

My take on the information from the Chronicle postings is that the Old Gods are essentially physical incarnations of the Void Lords - they're not as strong because the bulk of the individual Void Lord incarnated as an Old God is still trapped in the native dimension. They're still unfathomably powerful in a mortal sense and capable of corrupting nascent Titan World-Soul entities over time, which is probably both their true power and true purpose. The term the Tribunal of Ages used was "necrophotic symbiotes" and I think that adequately sums them up - symbiotic entities made of "dead light" (e.g. Shadow essence) that exist to join with a nascent Titan and empower it for the Void Lords' ultimate purposes.

[Chantique]

With the book revelations about the old golds and void lords, does it mean that shadow priest are the most "evil" class of wow? They are using an artifact made of a piece of an old god and they are getting closer and closer to the void, where the ultimate evil lies.

Different than warlocks who uses the power of the enemy against them, shadow priests just have this urge with the void and keep looking to get stronger and stronger. They keep looking to get the "ultimate power". Doesn't that looks pretty evil?

[Kathranis]

I assume they'd be to Warcraft's Old Gods what Lovecraft's Outer Gods are to the Great Old Ones.

Given the possibility that the Void Lords could be a large scale future threat for the Warcraft mythos not unlike the Burning Legion, I certainly hope that they manifest as various species with various forms, ranging from elegant and mysterious humanoid beings to jabbering monstrosities not unlike the Old Gods.

[Imnick]

I think, despite having the same name, the "Void Lords" and "Void Gods" that we've fought so far are just the lesser children of the "Void Gods" that created the "Old Gods", not the same creatures.
I'm reasonably sure one of the other leaks said that Void Gods (as in the ones who created the Old Gods) can't even manifest in the physical plane, which automatically disqualifies Dimensius, any dead Naaru, and any such creature we have fought so far.

[Candy Cough]

I just hope void lords looks really fucked up. Old gods looks disturbing, but make the void lords even more so.

[Kryos]

Lore Spoilers- Warcraft Chronicles book (self.wow)

''Sargeras decided he needed his own army to fight the Void Lords, and he remembered the demons. He had defeated them and imprisoned them on a world he created called Mardum, the Plane of Banishment. Since demons can't be killed outside of the Twisting Nether, Sargeras created Mardum to store their souls, so that once the demons regenerated phyiscal forms, they'd already be stuck on Mardum.
He traveled to Mardum and shattered the planet, causing a massive explosion of fel energy which hideously disfigured him. Now transformed into a demonic creature of fel magic, he used his new power to bend the demons to his will. The destruction also tore a hole in the Great Dark Beyond, forming a gateway to the twisting nether. Now countless demons could stream out at all times, whereas before demons were a relative rarity. Sargeras part 2: Panetheon finds out.
After forming the Burning Legion, Sargeras went on to destroy a world for the first time. It didn't have a world soul, but it had been ordered and thus had a constellar like Algalon watching over it. When the constellar came to see what had happened, Sargeras killed him.
The Pantheon was confused that their constellar hadn't reported back, so they sent Agrammar to investigate. He saw the Legion destroying the planet, and Sargeras leading them. Outraged at his former masters' betrayal, Agrammar challenged Sargeras to single combat. They fought, but Sargeras was far more powerful, as titans are naturally weak to fel magic. Both of their blades split in two, and Agrammar fled to warn the Pantheon.
The Pantheon decided to hold a meeting with Sargeras over a world called Nihilam. They thought he could still be reasoned with. At the meeting Sargeras again insisted what he was doing was the only way to stop the Void Lords.
Agrammar sensed there was still a noble soul beneath Sargeras' madness, and walked up to him, unarmed, pleading for Sargeras to listen to reason. He said they had found a new world soul, of a titan named Azeroth, who would one day be strong enough to destroy the Void Lords. Sargeras used his sword to slice Agrammar in half vertically.The Pantheon was outraged over the murder of fellow titan, and fought a massive war with Sargeras.
His fel magic was too powerful and Sargeras killed them all with a massive storm of fel fire. Little did he know, Norgannon had cast a protective shround which perserved the remaining Pantheon members' spirits, so that as their mortal bodies were destroyed, their spirits would live on.
Nihilam came to be known as Doom World, the site of the Legion's destruction of the Pantheon. Even worse, Sargeras now knew the existence of Azeroth, of a world soul powerful enough to defeat the void lords. He didn't see it that way, he saw it as a world with the potential to birth the ultimate evil if corrupted by the Void Lords first. So he set out to destroy it.
The spirits tried to possess the keepers (Thorim, Ra, Odyn etc) on Azeroth. They failed to do so completely and the keepers only got visions. The Pantheon spirits are now destroyed. Ra(den) was the only one who realised what had happened to the Pantheon. Void lords can't manifestate in the physical world so they created the Old Gods and sent them to all the planets they knew in the Great Dark Beyond in hopes of finding titan world-souls and corrupting them.
Holy shit! Sargeras is a lot more powerful than I initially thought. Killing the entire Titan pantheon? Thats just ridiculous.

Source: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...s-lore-spoiler

[Aucald]

Lore Spoilers- Warcraft Chronicles book (self.wow)
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Source: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...s-lore-spoiler

Turns out that killing an entire collection of incarnate demigods is easy when they turn out to be allergic to Fel.

[shoc]

Lovecraft:
Outer God > Great Old One

Warcraft:
Void Lord > Old God

Basically.

[ChronoSul]

Amanthul put a protection on the remaining members of the Panthenon wouldn't that include Sargaras?