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    Is it alright to ask why people trust Jim Sterling?

    I'm pretty certain there are people that dislike him just as much as I do (no need to go into detail there), but it seems the vast majority of people have at least some faith in his insight on gaming media.

    I just want to know why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    I'm pretty certain there are people that dislike him just as much as I do (no need to go into detail there), but it seems the vast majority of people have at least some faith in his insight on gaming media.

    I just want to know why.
    Can you prove anything he has said to be wrong using facts and not a opinion?

    He has some opinions I disagree with but overall he hasn't said anything wrong ether. So you have to go into detail on why you dislike him.

    You can't just go I dislike X and won't say why.
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    the opposite of the reasons you dont trust him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Can you prove anything he has said to be wrong using facts and not a opinion?

    He has some opinions I disagree with but overall he hasn't said anything wrong ether. So you have to go into detail on why you dislike him.

    You can't just go I dislike X and won't say why.
    I mean, a moderator will probably not like this but as for why I dislike him...

    He's SUCH a SJW (understatement) and the fact it dictates what he thinks of a game over anything else (including gameplay) reminds me of Kotaku, and his incessant complaining and overwhelming negativity bears an uncanny resemblance to Darksydephil. I mean he never says anything positive about a game as I've observed for a long time unless it's some pretentious walking simulator like Gone Home. His antics on videos that I also can't last through for very long is so cringe and tryhard like Angryjoe.

    It's hard to avoid him because of the attention he gets in news coverage so I think it's fair to just spit out why I really am not fond of him and why people can bear with him.

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    He's a mostly knowledgeable and straight-talking games journalist/pundit, with a lot a credibility as an independent voice since he's privately funded and isn't tied to any big websites or corporations. Years of experience in the industry, generally intelligent and well-reasoned discourse, and a level head when it comes to looking at most topics. His style of content, sense of humour, and tendency to poke fun at the hornet's nest of the internet may not be to everyone's tastes, but as far as commentators on the gaming industry go he's probably one of the better ones out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    I mean, a moderator will probably not like this but as for why I dislike him...

    He's SUCH a SJW (understatement) and the fact it dictates what he thinks of a game over anything else (including gameplay) reminds me of Kotaku, and his incessant complaining and overwhelming negativity bears an uncanny resemblance to Darksydephil. I mean he never says anything positive about a game as I've observed for a long time unless it's some pretentious walking simulator like Gone Home. His antics on videos that I also can't last through for very long is so cringe and tryhard like Angryjoe.

    It's hard to avoid him because of the attention he gets in news coverage so I think it's fair to just spit out why I really am not fond of him and why people can bear with him.

    What does any of this have to do with having trust in him? Sounds like you don't enjoy his personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    I mean, a moderator will probably not like this but as for why I dislike him...

    He's SUCH a SJW (understatement) and the fact it dictates what he thinks of a game over anything else (including gameplay) reminds me of Kotaku, and his incessant complaining and overwhelming negativity bears an uncanny resemblance to Darksydephil. I mean he never says anything positive about a game as I've observed for a long time unless it's some pretentious walking simulator like Gone Home. His antics on videos that I also can't last through for very long is so cringe and tryhard like Angryjoe.

    It's hard to avoid him because of the attention he gets in news coverage so I think it's fair to just spit out why I really am not fond of him and why people can bear with him.
    idk he has TONS of videos where he talks about something positive

    but a game like slaughtering grounds, what do you want him to say "positive"

    "man i sure do love his use of horribly cropped blood from google search!"

    also hes not just a critic, hes a entertainer, like angry joe, if they were critics it would be a simple review, but they have jokes, skits, and have a persona... do you really think jim believes "thank god for me" and that he is the best being in the universe? god no, its a persona he puts on... like god danm... i have never seen a fat man pull off black and red well at all... but well when hes holding the penetrator (saints row ftw) lol

    so of corse in their video they are gunna inflate the bad, and skip over some of the good, but their rating is still the same


    a perfect example of this is jontrons video on star wars kinect
    he makes this huge point of the video him trying to navigate the menu by swiping the screen, and makes a huge point of "WTF XBOX, WOW THE KINECT IS BULLSHIT WTF, THE MENU IS THE HARDEST PART TO USE!!!" well in the rest of the video he uses the menu perfectly cause he hovers over the arrows to change options, instead of trying to swipe... and he navigates the menu insanely easy

    Here ya go, but all critics who do it for fun as for example

    https://youtu.be/9J5mkoCiuzs?t=2m14s

    notice how before he gets onto the point he uses it fine, he starts making the joke and suddenly cant get the menu to work, then AS SOON as he puts the controllers on screen and ends the joke, he starts using the menu perfectly fine again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sockie View Post
    What does any of this have to do with having trust in him? Sounds like you don't enjoy his personality.
    Well not only that, I just cannot fathom people having trust in people that slam games entirely based on stuff not remotely involving gameplay.

    That's just the gist of it.

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    Because people that like to be negative assholes, tend to gravitate to "celebrities" that share their opinion.

    Confirmation Bias at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    Well not only that, I just cannot fathom people having trust in people that slam games entirely based on stuff not remotely involving gameplay.

    That's just the gist of it.
    Like what?

    Examples...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    Well not only that, I just cannot fathom people having trust in people that slam games entirely based on stuff not remotely involving gameplay.

    That's just the gist of it.
    so you cant judge a game based on anything other then gameplay?
    Graphics are horrible? nope 10/10
    Story is horrid? fuck you 10/10
    Sound is nothing but a baby crying for 8 hours? Hm? nope 10/10
    Controls are literally pointless, its on autopilot, you cant move your char at all? 10/10 who needs controls
    Gameplay is really good? 10 OUTTA 10, GAME OF THE CENTURY PEOPLE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    He's SUCH a SJW .
    Stopped here because I can't take any argument serious that use's terms like SJW,Cuck and so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Stopped here because I can't take any argument serious that use's terms like SJW,Cuck and so on.
    agreed... kinda suspected it would go down this road, but hey at least they didnt resort to making fun of TB's cancer like most do that talk about Jim/TB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    Well not only that, I just cannot fathom people having trust in people that slam games entirely based on stuff not remotely involving gameplay.

    That's just the gist of it.
    People have different preferences when it comes to gaming. Certain games are heavily gameplay focused, others might be more narratively driven, some have fantastic art and sound design that props up the rest of the experience. Like any critic, he has his preferences, and the people who find his critique useful are probably the ones that share those preferences.

    It sounds as though you just don't enjoy his personality or share his preferences when it comes to video games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    agreed... kinda suspected it would go down this road, but hey at least they didnt resort to making fun of TB's cancer like most do that talk about Jim/TB
    Right.....

    The funny part is people who do that or use SJW just proves Jim's point a lot.
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    It's easy to trust someone who states their opinions as opinions and gives solid reasoning behind the facts that are presented. Not liking his persona doesn't really negate the man's integrity.
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    He exclusively goes after low hanging fruit and only spews forced tirades for hits. Never any creativity, never anything original, you can always predict his benign outrage each week from glancing at /r/games.

    Also, yes, he's a super SJW and a very literal cuck, but unlike some I don't really care what he does with his private life. I just think his videos are shit, like every other OUTRAGE GAMER tends to be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snackwiches View Post
    Also, yes, he's a super SJW and a very literal cuck,
    I don't think you know what the two bolded words means.

    But if some chance you do please provide the video proof showing it.


    Also how does calling people out on there bullshit make him SJW? Its fine to disagree with a person but the childish insults just makes you look weak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    He's SUCH a SJW (understatement) and the fact it dictates what he thinks of a game over anything else (including gameplay)[...]
    Absolutely not. As an avid consumer of Sterling's content, I have never seen an instance of his 'SJWness' 'dictate' what he thinks of a game. Would you care to share an instance of this occurring? Because I certainly can't come up with one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    Well not only that, I just cannot fathom people having trust in people that slam games entirely based on stuff not remotely involving gameplay.
    Entirely? No. Would you care to provide an instance of him 'slamming' a game 'entirely' based on non-gameplay? I can't think of a single instance of this happening.

    Wondercrab has eloquently described my feelings on the matter; it seems like you don't enjoy Jim Sterling, which is perfectly fine. However, I don't find this to be a reasonable reason as to distrust the man.

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    He seems trustworthy, and some of his videos can be fun to watch. Good enough for me.
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