First presidential debate - September 26: Trump vs Hillary

[Cthulhu 2020]

Oh, Now you made it personal didn't you.
Alright, I'll bite.
Yes, I did vote Leave. Because I am sick of the globalists and the regressives telling us we need to have more open borders and to let in and care for all the immigrants.
Why am I sick of it? Because it devalues the native populations and keeps the middle and lower classes down. They devalue the lower class work and "Unskilled jobs" remain unskilled jobs.
They force the communities around them to die or accept their backwards beliefs. Yes, I said backwards.

Trump is correct, and that's what causes you regressive to be such vile bitchy little cunts.

Illegal mexican workers drive down the minimum wage.

Muslims kill and behead people, Moderate muslims do nothing to stop this and we're not allowed to look into it because it's racist when we call a mosque extremist or call Jihadists muslims.

People get insulted for not following along with this globalist agenda, that we're racist and Bigoted for looking at the world with realistic eyes, that the extremists ARE muslims and importing working class uneducated shlock DOES devalue to Working class of the nation they invade.

How about this for some food for thought. Globalism profits nobody but the richest. As the world as followed this globalist path, the gap between Working class has gotten wider and the middle class has shrunk, as the world has gotten more "Tolerant" and "Progressive" it's become more restricted and fiscally immobile.

Trump may be a dickhead, he may be a crooked businessman who lies and uses hyperbole on anything, his stances in things may be obtuse but he has those things right.

Globalism is a mistake that is killing the western world, and more globalism doesn't fix it.

It's funny that conservatives are now waking up to who the problem is (the elite). They defended them so adamantly before, saying that they "earned their fortune" and nobody has any right to tax them or to their money in any other form. And now they're FINALLY waking up to the fact that the elite have earned their fortunes by fucking others over and being dishonest.

The only problem is... they won't actually go after the elite. They won't go after the elite who are taking advantage of low skill low pay labor. They won't go after the elite who are shipping jobs over seas. They want to go after the immigrants, they want to go after everyone except the elite. And the funniest part is the elite are so obviously on one side of the political spectrum (one guess is to which it is) and they blame it on communism, liberals, etc.

[DeadmanWalking]

If it's racist to want a world where we actually protect the rights of the Working class and question radical beliefs then I will admit it.

I am a racist, Because at the end of the day, it's less horrific to be racist than a Globalist.

Never go full racist.

[Breccia]

Oh? Am I wrong? Is it Trump who defends ALL Immigrants and Trump who defends the actions of every Muslims?

Was it trump saying we shouldn't call ISIS muslims? Or was it Trump shaming people for taking a stance on all of this.

I was referring to you calling your opponents cunts when you couldn't find something better, like a fact that would back your position.

But for the record,
a) nobody defends ALL Immigrants. Your use of absolutes is making your argument weaker.
b) similarly, nobody defends ALL Muslims.
c) just so we're clear, nobody defends ALL Christians, either.
d) Obama said this:
"ISIL is not 'Islamic.' No religion condones the killing of innocents, and the vast majority of ISIL's victims have been Muslim. And ISIL is certainly not a state; it was formerly al Qaeda's affiliate in Iraq and has taken advantage of sectarian strife and Syria's civil war to gain territory on both sides of the Iraq-Syrian border. It is recognized by no government nor by the people it subjugates."
You're going to have to describe Muslim as a religion that encourages murdering its own. Good luck with that one.
e) And Obama should, in fact, shame people who claim ISIL represents the Muslim faith. There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. FOX News said ISIL had 30,000 tops last year and kind of a lot's changed since then.

This ratio is nearly identical to the size of the US (320 mil) to the size of the KKK (about 5,000).

So, good luck.

EDIT: Ah man, just when I was having fun.

[DeadmanWalking]

It's funny that conservatives are now waking up to who the problem is (the elite). They defended them so adamantly before, saying that they "earned their fortune" and nobody has any right to tax them or to their money in any other form. And now they're FINALLY waking up to the fact that the elite have earned their fortunes by fucking others over and being dishonest.

The only problem is... they won't actually go after the elite. They won't go after the elite who are taking advantage of low skill low pay labor. They won't go after the elite who are shipping jobs over seas. They want to go after the immigrants, they want to go after everyone except the elite. And the funniest part is the elite are so obviously on one side of the political spectrum (one guess is to which it is) and they blame it on communism, liberals, etc.

I've said all along that to stop illegal immigration all you have to do is put some Americans who hire illegals in a prison shower for a few years and the jobs will disappear, no money = no illegals. You don't need an expensive wall that can be defeated with 50 feet of rope.
But that would mean not punishing poor brown people and who wants that?

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I was referring to you calling your opponents cunts when you couldn't find something better, like a fact that would back your position.

But for the record,
a) nobody defends ALL Immigrants. Your use of absolutes is making your argument weaker.
b) similarly, nobody defends ALL Muslims.
c) just so we're clear, nobody defends ALL Christians, either.
d) Obama said this:
"ISIL is not 'Islamic.' No religion condones the killing of innocents, and the vast majority of ISIL's victims have been Muslim. And ISIL is certainly not a state; it was formerly al Qaeda's affiliate in Iraq and has taken advantage of sectarian strife and Syria's civil war to gain territory on both sides of the Iraq-Syrian border. It is recognized by no government nor by the people it subjugates."
You're going to have to describe Muslim as a religion that encourages murdering its own. Good luck with that one.
e) And Obama should, in fact, shame people who claim ISIL represents the Muslim faith. There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. FOX News said ISIL had 30,000 tops last year and kind of a lot's changed since then.

This ratio is nearly identical to the size of the US (320 mil) to the size of the KKK (about 5,000).

So, good luck.

He got banned.

[Nanaboostme]

Any links to live broadcast online?

[Damajin]

It's funny that conservatives are now waking up to who the problem is (the elite). They defended them so adamantly before, saying that they "earned their fortune" and nobody has any right to tax them or to their money in any other form. And now they're FINALLY waking up to the fact that the elite have earned their fortunes by fucking others over and being dishonest.

The only problem is... they won't actually go after the elite. They won't go after the elite who are taking advantage of low skill low pay labor. They won't go after the elite who are shipping jobs over seas. They want to go after the immigrants, they want to go after everyone except the elite. And the funniest part is the elite are so obviously on one side of the political spectrum (one guess is to which it is) and they blame it on communism, liberals, etc.

The anti elite, anti globalism has been there the entire time just incredibly marginalized. It was a fringe view often decried as insane and other choice words to totally dismiss it. What you’re seeing now is as you said a waking up to what is going on but there have been a segment of the right who’ve thought this for a very long time all the way back to WWII times. It’s becoming an almost mainstream viewpoint now amongst the grassroots right.

Where you’re wrong is your second paragraph, because the entire modern emphasis on economic nationalism, anti globalism and anti FTA’s is where these people are making waves and causing problems with the ‘plan’ of things. They’re still not and never will be similar in thought to the left and expecting that is going to be a big letdown but to say they’re not going after corporations isn’t true at all. They can ramp it up and have quite a bit more to gain in that regard, but that entire 2nd paragraph is just a big chunk of rhetoric. Some of them blame it on communism, liberals etc because those people do have some part to play in this as the other side is just as guilty of enabling as those on the right are. Also let’s remember that it’s the elite who want to be the capitalists while they want the rest of us to accept and live under some bannerhead of communism/socialism/collectivism/whatever you want to call it. One set of rules for them, and one for us is ultimately the goal of things.

[mvaliz]

Oh? Am I wrong? Is it Trump who defends ALL Immigrants and Trump who defends the actions of every Muslims?

The only immigrant he has ever defended was his mail-order trophy wife.

[AsariCommando]

Any links to live broadcast online?

From Trump's channel:

[Cthulhu 2020]

I was referring to you calling your opponents cunts when you couldn't find something better, like a fact that would back your position.

But for the record,
a) nobody defends ALL Immigrants. Your use of absolutes is making your argument weaker.
b) similarly, nobody defends ALL Muslims.
c) just so we're clear, nobody defends ALL Christians, either.
d) Obama said this:
"ISIL is not 'Islamic.' No religion condones the killing of innocents, and the vast majority of ISIL's victims have been Muslim. And ISIL is certainly not a state; it was formerly al Qaeda's affiliate in Iraq and has taken advantage of sectarian strife and Syria's civil war to gain territory on both sides of the Iraq-Syrian border. It is recognized by no government nor by the people it subjugates."
You're going to have to describe Muslim as a religion that encourages murdering its own. Good luck with that one.
e) And Obama should, in fact, shame people who claim ISIL represents the Muslim faith. There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. FOX News said ISIL had 30,000 tops last year and kind of a lot's changed since then.

This ratio is nearly identical to the size of the US (320 mil) to the size of the KKK (about 5,000).

So, good luck.

EDIT: Ah man, just when I was having fun.

Extreme emphasis mine.

[Wells]

Ok guys, who's ready for this shit to get graded on a curve?

[Cthulhu 2020]

The only immigrant he has ever defended was his mail-order trophy wife.

Lol I forgot about that. Trump makes his entire lines of products in other countries. His make america great again hats are made in China. Not at all surprised that his wife wasn't made in the US either.

[Shadoweye]

The university posted trigger warnings for the debate...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...onights-debate

http://www.mrctv.org/blog/hofstra-un...dential-debate

[PACOX]

Clinton walked in like is was a boxing match, Im hype

[Cthulhu 2020]

He got banned.

Sometimes I wish the mods would let us play with the blatant unashamed racists.

[mvaliz]

From Trump's channel:
[video=youtube;vJ4CSmOqS5c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ4CSmOqS5c[video]

Watch it on CNN.com - front page.

It's better to do that than to give Trump extra web-traffic.

[AsariCommando]

The university posted trigger warnings for the debate...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...onights-debate

http://www.mrctv.org/blog/hofstra-un...dential-debate

And our society degenerated just a little bit more.

[May90]

Any links to live broadcast online?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9m_hzXE7f4

[Height]

I really cant see how Hillary wins unless she calls him out on everything and treats him like a petulant child who is a bit nutty and has no working knowledge. I don't see that happening though. If she plays it safe (which is most likely) she'll lose.

[Deleted]

Sometimes I wish the mods would let us play with the blatant unashamed racists.

How would they manage that when some of them can't manage properly in the first place.

[mvaliz]

And our society degenerated just a little bit more.

Or they're legally protecting themselves from Regressive Dumpster Rage™.


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