Legendary "fix" is pure BS - Real, hardcold evidence here

[Mikehuntz]

Buddy of mine got his legendary and it was a follower's item. That item was SLIGHTY better than the Carrot Stick item.

[ShiyoKozuki]

I have over 100 Firelands solo runs, and still haven't gotten the Firebird off Ragnaros yet. A guildie got it on her second run of the place.

RNG is RNG.

Did he then get it 3 more times within a week?
No?
Then RNG isn't RNG.

[masterhorus8]

Did he then get it 3 more times within a week?
No?
Then RNG isn't RNG.

Is there a weekly lockout on legendaries?
No?
Then RNG is RNG.

[ShiyoKozuki]

Is there a weekly lockout on legendaries?
No?
Then RNG is RNG.

You can do it on multiple characters so yeah there really isn't for old raids, just a character lock out.
RNG is not RNG when the same people are getting lucky, consistently, over and over. There's too many known players getting 2-3 legendaries within the span of a week STILL.

That is not RNG.

As I said, you didn't get 3 krol blades within 3 days of eachother in vanilla.

[masterhorus8]

You can do it on multiple characters so yeah there really isn't for old raids, just a character lock out.
RNG is not RNG when the same people are getting lucky, consistently, over and over. There's too many known players getting 2-3 legendaries within the span of a week STILL.

That is not RNG.

As I said, you didn't get 3 krol blades within 3 days of eachother in vanilla.

Yes, it is still RNG. That's exactly what RNG is. Until it is guaranteed, it is still RNG.

I can keep going on till I get banned, but I'll likely get bored at some point. Just because something is heavily weighted in your favor, it is still RNG.

[Kallisto]

Did he then get it 3 more times within a week?
No?
Then RNG isn't RNG.

Fuck sake yes it is RNG.

Take a dice. You have 1/6 chance to get a 6. You roll and get a 6.

Great that's random. But guess what you roll again you have the same 1/6 chance to get that 6.

Probability has no memory. Each roll is still 1/6 and it is possible that someone will get that 6 multiple times in a row. Also if the amount of people involved is high enough then you are almost guaranteed that someone will be getting 6 every single time. Just like you're almost guaranteed someone will get a 1 every single time. If something can happen it is almost certain it has happened, is happening and will happen again.

All this bug did was essentially instead of the 1/6 for someone with a legendary it went to 1/4 (random number but none the less.). Rolling the 1/4 it is still a random number between 1 and 4, it is just the numbers are smaller giving a better chance. One person could roll nothing but 1s, it is unlikely but still there. Another can roll nothing but 4s. RNG =/= every number is different. It just means after each roll of the dice the chance for each number to come up is still the same as before when it is rolled.

[Kikazz]

It's absolutely possible to fix it. See my post from earlier:

yes i read that but as i stated, blizzard themselves stated the the chance is low, yet stated before it is based of rng (random Number Generator)

so unless they had a fixed point number to begin with they wouldnt be able to hotfix the problem.

the OP was asking if anyone knew if this number existed at all.

and if it did blizzard would have hotfixed that number, but have told us said number does not exist. and it is a chance.

to have a chance you have to have a number to begin with.

[Darsithis]

so unless they had a fixed point number to begin with they wouldnt be able to hotfix the problem.

They have to have a fixed chance so I'm not sure what it is that you're talking about. In order for it to drop at all there has to be a chance for it, whether that is .0001% or 100%. They can change this chance at-will but that doesn't mean anyone will get a legendary unless it's a 100% chance.

[noladrew]

Friend of mine finally got his first one two days ago. Out of the group of 5 of us that play a TON together he is the only one with a legendary. Keep in mind we all have 3-4 110 characters, all of which near 850 with our mains nearing 860 now. The juicy part, not 1 hour later he got his 2nd legendary. WOOOOOOO RNG!

[Nikkej]

The fix was for people who already had a legendary having too high of a chance for a second. It wasn't a buff to the drop rate.

Friend of mine finally got his first one two days ago. Out of the group of 5 of us that play a TON together he is the only one with a legendary. Keep in mind we all have 3-4 110 characters, all of which near 850 with our mains nearing 860 now. The juicy part, not 1 hour later he got his 2nd legendary. WOOOOOOO RNG!

There is so many of this stuff happening, and ppl refere to it as RNG. Its basicly something thats not working as intended.

[Nahela]

Do you guys always believe everything that comes out of Blizzards mouth?

I can't tell if you're just trolling for the sake of trolling or really just have no understanding how randomized systems in programming work. I'm going to assume the latter and you should spend the time educating yourself instead of arguing on the forums.

[Tzalix]

He does realize that he can display the amount of exp gained, doesn't he?

Oh, if only facts could sway the opinions of conspiracy theorists. What a world we would live in.

[TS26]

So we have totally blasted out spammed Mythic +2/3/4 3 chests in the recent days.

Also done +5/+7 a few times with 1-2 chests.


Even switched DPS alts in/boosted them in ilvl 785ish and other more well geared alts to get keystones and made 3x chestruns with them.


In total I think we have done aprox. 60+ 3chest runs, few +2 and in total including where we puged or split up aprox 110+ in the past days.


We have seen 0 legendarys drop to anyone.


Untill our guildie joins in today. The second hes in, he gets his Third legendary.


This. Is. Not. RNG.

This. Is. Not. Fixd.


I do not envy him, hes a guildie and its superfun for him, it will really be beneficial for our raid that he got 3 to switch around with.

Its not fun to fight a broken system tho.

Well the fix was about having increased chance for a second legendary. They never said anything about having increased chance for a 3rd legendary

[Darsithis]

There is so many of this stuff happening, and ppl refere to it as RNG. Its basicly something thats not working as intended.

I don't know for sure if their reduction in the chance post-legendary is working; only Blizzard would know for sure as only they can run the sims or breakpoint their code and examine variable values in real-time. It's still RNG. It's still random, higher chance or not.

[Goondicker]

To be fair:

People who cried about this before were met with "it's RNG you're just butthurt."

But they were right. There was a bug.

So, keep in mind that when you claim it's just good/bad RNG... you could be wrong again.

[ShiyoKozuki]

Friend of mine finally got his first one two days ago. Out of the group of 5 of us that play a TON together he is the only one with a legendary. Keep in mind we all have 3-4 110 characters, all of which near 850 with our mains nearing 860 now. The juicy part, not 1 hour later he got his 2nd legendary. WOOOOOOO RNG!

Yet people will continue to say "ITS JUST RNG!!"

[masterhorus8]

To be fair:

People who cried about this before were met with "it's RNG you're just butthurt."

But they were right. There was a bug.

So, keep in mind that when you claim it's just good/bad RNG... you could be wrong again.

It was still RNG, just heavily biased RNG. But still RNG. Until it's 100%, it's always RNG. I'm not saying that it's not bugged. It very well could still be, I wouldn't be surprised. But it still is and will almost always still be RNG until they make it guaranteed.

[Dasani]

Randomness is, always has been, and always will be the worst kind of system for rewarding activity.

Some guy dedicates 100+ hours a week to grinding to get nothing out of it vs some guy who plays one time for one hour out of the whole week and gets one. Randomness makes no sense and never did as a basis for reward.

Getting lucky is the scam casinos and lotteries use to make money because the odds are always, always, always against you and yet somehow people think it is fun or engaging?

As far as the supposed bad luck prevention, it either doesn't exist, it is grossly undertuned, or it is straight up broken and doesn't work right now.

[Goondicker]

It was still RNG, just heavily biased RNG. But still RNG. Until it's 100%, it's always RNG. I'm not saying that it's not bugged. It very well could still be, I wouldn't be surprised. But it still is and will almost always still be RNG until they make it guaranteed.

Yes, I understand what you're saying. If you /roll you know it's from 1-100, so it's random therein. The issue is that the system was (or still is) less random for others.

[Lime]

There is so many of this stuff happening, and ppl refere to it as RNG. Its basicly something thats not working as intended.

Actually, even if there was undeniable proof that it was working as intended, you could still see those same results.

Explain what's not working as intended right now.