Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell Blames Obama For JASTA Veto Override.

[Edge-]

He's also the same barely sentient fuckstick that tried to blame the fact that this has been one of the least productive legislatures on Obama...despite the fact that the GOP (as told by McConnel himself) literally made their public, stated goal to prevent Obama from getting anything done.

[Deleted]

Clearly it is Obamas fault that the American Senate cannot do basic research before voting on a important matter.

[Deletedaccount1]

Not people, governments being held accountable for actions of their citizens. We already have this nifty thing called "extradition" if someone is accused of a crime but has fled to another nation.

In the case of Saudi Arabia it seems fine since their government consists of Wahhabists sects that the royals openly tolerate.

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How are you going to collect your court results from another country? When they don't show up, you send them subpoena? Issue a warrant for the detention of a country?

By seizing their assets.

[Wells]

By seizing their assets.

Which would likely mean touching off an international incident. Foreign policy shouldn't be driven by civil courts.

[Deletedaccount1]

Which would likely mean touching off an international incident. Foreign policy shouldn't be driven by civil courts.

That is being hyperbolic. Even it meant sparking an international incident, why would that be an awful thing? The royal family has run their country into the ground and it is pretty clear that elements of their government either took part in 9/11 or let it happen.

There is no reason why they should be immune to the law.

[Wells]

why would that be an awful thing?

Because the scope and seriousness of our international dealings with nations like Saudi Arabia vastly outweigh civil court matters.

and it is pretty clear that elements of their government either took part in 9/11 or let it happen.

The appropriate response to this would be to elect officials to the relevant foreign policy positions and take action, not to use domestic civil courts to try to do an end run around the government agencies that craft foreign policy.

[ranzino]

Because the scope and seriousness of our international dealings with nations like Saudi Arabia vastly outweigh civil court matters.



The appropriate response to this would be to elect officials to the relevant foreign policy positions and take action, not to use domestic civil courts to try to do an end run around the government agencies that craft foreign policy.

Congress in its infinite wisdom declared civil court >>>> serious dealings.
And if Congress declared the sky is yellow with pink ribbons, the sky has to obey The wonder of democracy....

[ati87]

That is being hyperbolic. Even it meant sparking an international incident, why would that be an awful thing? The royal family has run their country into the ground and it is pretty clear that elements of their government either took part in 9/11 or let it happen.

There is no reason why they should be immune to the law.

Because if you would apply the same logic people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan and many other countries would sue the US till their is nothing left?

[ranzino]

Because if you would apply the same logic people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan and many other countries would sue the US till their is nothing left?

AFAIK Knadra is in favour of responsibility of US representants.

[Deletedaccount1]

Because the scope and seriousness of our international dealings with nations like Saudi Arabia vastly outweigh civil court matters.



The appropriate response to this would be to elect officials to the relevant foreign policy positions and take action, not to use domestic civil courts to try to do an end run around the government agencies that craft foreign policy.

What action and what officials?

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Because if you would apply the same logic people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan and many other countries would sue the US till their is nothing left?

There are plenty of people in the US government who should be held responsible for the current situation in those countries.

[Chrysia]

That is being hyperbolic. Even it meant sparking an international incident, why would that be an awful thing? The royal family has run their country into the ground and it is pretty clear that elements of their government either took part in 9/11 or let it happen.

There is no reason why they should be immune to the law.

It's "pretty clear" they did so based on nothing but speculation and hearsay. The 9/11 attackers were Saudi, sure, but all evidence is that they operated outside of Saudi Arabia for years before the attacks, and had no connection to the House of Saud.

[matt4pack]

As much as you all crap on congress it was them that stopped the warmongering Obama from turning Syria into a complete hellhole of anarchy like he accomplished in Libya. Yay obama.

[Chrysia]

As much as you all crap on congress it was them that stopped the warmongering Obama from turning Syria into a complete hellhole of anarchy like he accomplished in Libya. Yay obama.

Ummm, what? Syria is a hellhole of anarchy right now. That's why there are millions of refugees.

[matt4pack]

Ummm, what? Syria is a hellhole of anarchy right now. That's why there are millions of refugees.

Oh it could be so much worse. The areas under government control away from the front lines are pretty stable unlike in Libya where the entire country is chaos.

[Noradin]

There are plenty of people in the US government who should be held responsible for the current situation in those countries.

But they wouldn't the the country would be held responsible not the persons.

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Oh it could be so much worse. The areas under government control away from the front lines are pretty stable unlike in Libya where the entire country is chaos.

Riots among the permanent residents of graveyards are also pretty rare.

[Mafic]

McConnel can't hide from this. This is his Waterloo for his career.

[ranzino]

But they wouldn't the the country would be held responsible not the persons.

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Actions on behalf of the country bites the country. should have selected someone else as its representative.

[Chrysia]

Actions on behalf of the country bites the country. should have selected someone else as its representative.

There is zero evidence the 9/11 attacks were done on behalf of the Saudi government.

[ranzino]

There is zero evidence the 9/11 attacks were done on behalf of the Saudi government.

AFAIK the bill also entitles to sue government for "looking the other way" ?

[Chrysia]

AFAIK the bill also entitles to sue government for "looking the other way" ?

Which is beyond stupid. These people trained and primarily operated outside of Saudi Arabia for every stage of the attacks.