The O'keefe videos

[Garnier Fructis]

And if you've never done any video editing whatsoever, you can easily spot stuff in the videos that can't really be said to have been taken "out of context". I mean, the bit where this guy says this, for example:



He says a lot more, too. That's not edited together. That's him saying those words.

And without proper context you don't know if he's saying that the DNC is actually involved, or if he's saying that he doesn't want the DNC blamed. These two are different propositions.

With O'Keefe context, though, everything is designed to 'prove' the former.

We should have learned this with his Planned Parenthood videos. Statements that looked damning where actually not damning at all.

[Felya]

MMO-ControlTheRecord in full force as always.

Who is controlling the record? Media is hiding his video of a Hillary shirt being sold to a Canadian, as proof of Hillary's foreign funding. I wonder why that is... conspiracy!!!

[unfilteredJW]

So desperate for a port in this storm.

[Trollhammer]

https://youtu.be/45QKsgitMCs

O'keefe must be the best video editor in the world.

[Deleted]

That quote doesn't mean anything out of context.

OK buddy. By the way, the video is there, and those conversations are long and full of context, so you can go look at it for yourself, and even without any video editing experience you'll be able to spot where there's an edit, and where the possible context changes.

And without proper context

Yeah... It's one frame out of a long conversation. Feel free to go watch the entire conversation if you're craving for that context.

[Felya]

You think Cheryl Mills or Podesta or Huma Abedin or Sydney Blumenthal need to be told by her? They're there to already know what to do. Just like their subordinates are there because they already know what to do. "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?"

Hive mind then?

[Trollhammer]

""The key is initiating the conflict by having leading conversations with people who are naturally psychotic. I mean, honestly, it’s not hard to get some of these assholes to pop off."

"It’s a matter of showing up, to want to get into the rally, in a Planned Parenthood t-shirt. Or, Trump is a Nazi, you know… You can…. draw them to punch you.”"

MUH CONTEXT!

[sarahtasher]

https://youtu.be/45QKsgitMCs

O'keefe must be the best video editor in the world.

You really don't notice that there is a cut between the two first bits ?

[Ghier]

Quickly! Attack the source, not the message!

This thread should have an ad hominem fallacy warning.

[Felya]

I am amazing people think this video is edited..

https://youtu.be/45QKsgitMCs

O'keefe must be the best video editor in the world.

The video starts in the middle of the conversation and the first edit can be seen in the white blur before even the 7-8 second... they didn't get flashed by an alien space ship, that timewarped the conversation... that's an edit...

[Garnier Fructis]

https://youtu.be/45QKsgitMCs

O'keefe must be the best video editor in the world.

There were actually like 4 cuts in the conversation there, not sure how you missed it. Unless you think Foval just radiates light every now and then, in which case he might be the messiah. Two comments: 1), this isn't even the whole video, and 2) the title doesn't actually match what's said. The DNC isn't even mentioned in this clip.

[Hyral]

Why post this in Liberal-Champion? These people will always ignore any evidence that their party could ever do any wrong doing and insult you to hell and back instead of engage in dialog. Post this in media where it will reach more independents, not CTR shills.

[Infracted - Trolling]

[dd614]

It's O'Keefe.

Does nobody remember the deception of his Planned Parenthood, ACORN, etc all his past videos?

The guy is fundamentally incapable of providing 'evidence' without his own deceptive editing. Why do people keep falling for his shit, hook line and sinker?

Actually it's only progressive traitors like yourself who ignore what's right in front of your fucking face.


[Infracted]

[NineSpine]

https://youtu.be/45QKsgitMCs

O'keefe must be the best video editor in the world.

Nothing in there is remotely surprising or controversial.

[Trollhammer]

The video starts in the middle of the conversation and the first edit can be seen in the white blur before even the 7-8 second... they didn't get flashed by an alien space ship, that timewarped the conversation... that's an edit...

Scott Foval is explaining how to incite violence at Trump rallies. Yes or no.

[Felya]

""The key is initiating the conflict by having leading conversations with people who are naturally psychotic. I mean, honestly, it’s not hard to get some of these assholes to pop off."

"It’s a matter of showing up, to want to get into the rally, in a Planned Parenthood t-shirt. Or, Trump is a Nazi, you know… You can…. draw them to punch you.”"

MUH CONTEXT!

What is he responding to? On face value, it looks like he is saying that Trump supporters are so psychotic, they would snap at a planned Parenthood shirt...

[AndaliteBandit]

Wasn't there a thread started on this yesterday that was quickly closed?

Oh look, yes there was:
Hillary-Campaign-and-DNC-paying-protesters-to-harass-people-outside-Trump-events

And further, I'd swear I've seen these videos discussed in at least one of the election mega threads.

You did. Someone posted it yesterday in the Trump thread claiming that Youtube was censoring the video because the view count wasn't updating in real time. Seriously.

[Garnier Fructis]

""The key is initiating the conflict by having leading conversations with people who are naturally psychotic. I mean, honestly, it’s not hard to get some of these assholes to pop off."

"It’s a matter of showing up, to want to get into the rally, in a Planned Parenthood t-shirt. Or, Trump is a Nazi, you know… You can…. draw them to punch you.”"

MUH CONTEXT!

Considering the whole goal is to link this to the DNC and Clinton, yeah. MUH CONTEXT is exactly right.

[NineSpine]

This thread should have an ad hominem fallacy warning.

It's not an ad hominem fallacy to say that the source of a particular piece of information is untrustworthy due to past deceptions.

[Felya]

Scott Foval is explaining how to incite violence at Trump rallies. Yes or no.

No, he is saying how little it takes to insight them.