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    Quote Originally Posted by Berengil View Post
    The "Ferguson effect" is a good thing.

    Cops should be aware that they will be scrutinized to hell and back for every little thing they do. They are public servants, not our masters.

    If they aren't prepared to take the risk inherent in hesitating to use deadly force, I have a suggestion for them: quit.
    Yeah, that's a great solution. Hey, let's have even fewer police officers because society has driven them to the point where they have to double and triple guess their possible actions to serve and protect themselves and the people around them! THAT'LL MAKE US SAFER FOR SURE!!!!!!

    Someone breaks into your house and is armed. Police show up and they COULD save your life by shooting him...but, um...hmm...that might look bad in the media reports of the incident because the reports will be that...oh we can't think that far, the burglar just shot the cop, you, and probably your dog at this point. But, hey! YOU SAVED THE LIFE OF THE POOR MISTREATED CRIMINAL. GOOD JOB!!!! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenixdown View Post
    Yeah, that's a great solution. Hey, let's have even fewer police officers because society has driven them to the point where they have to double and triple guess their possible actions to serve and protect themselves and the people around them! THAT'LL MAKE US SAFER FOR SURE!!!!!!

    Someone breaks into your house and is armed. Police show up and they COULD save your life by shooting him...but, um...hmm...that might look bad in the media reports of the incident because the reports will be that...oh we can't think that far, the burglar just shot the cop, you, and probably your dog at this point. But, hey! YOU SAVED THE LIFE OF THE POOR MISTREATED CRIMINAL. GOOD JOB!!!! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Go procreate with a brick, please. Not humans. We don't need to deal with that possibility in humanity's future.
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    Why are you even bothering with trials in the USA ? Since you seem to believe that the law is about having big manly guns and shoot ''criminals'' (especially wih the Internet Tough Guys that feel the need to come here to tell that they are packing heat 24 on 24 to shoot ''crimunals'' in the head if they spot them shoplifting at Walmart) just let stark raving mad militiamen with dozens of assault guns kill everyone that look at them funny.

    The idea is that if you a big gun, you are a good guy. Therefore, lots of angry dudes with very big guns are super good guys, right ?
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  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Berengil View Post
    The "Ferguson effect" is a good thing.

    Cops should be aware that they will be scrutinized to hell and back for every little thing they do. They are public servants, not our masters.

    If they aren't prepared to take the risk inherent in hesitating to use deadly force, I have a suggestion for them: quit.
    The "Ferguson effect" is putting people in harms way, be it the officer who's brainwashed, their partner, or civilians.

    Its basically like having a cultural phenomenon scamming people into thinking washing your hands is "racist" with the end result of a bunch of surgeons refusing to scrub before surgery for fear people might say bad things about them on Facebook.

    Cops are scrutinized for what they do and they are punished for their improper actions all the time.

    This manufactured outrage plague that suggests otherwise is a pure load of bullshit.

    Have you ever questioned why the martyr for all the SJW/BLM/bad cop/whatever rhetoric is always some career criminal who got shot while trying to attack a cop?

    If the whole "problem" was as bad as these types say it is then how come they cant come up with any better examples?

    Because you know there are bad cops out there and they're getting taken down all the time.

    Ever hear about the two cops who murdered a 7 year old boy because they decided to open fire on a car who's occupant was clearly surrendering and didn't bother to check to see if anybody was in the back seat?

    You probably didn't.

    Want to know why?

    Because those two cops were arrested, charged, and are going to be convicted for murder.

    (...and also because the cops were Black and the boy White)

    And your "just quit if you cant take the risk" comment is very disrespectful.

    These people know damned well of what they signed up for and they face more risk in an hour than you likely have/will in your entire life.

    They are walking around in a nation like the one we currently have, and in a city like Chicago, with a god damned giant bulls-eye on their chest.

    So I've got a different outlook on quitting.

    If cops cant handle the fact that the country's succumbing to radicalized political cop-hate-game, and if that pressure means they cant preform their duties in safeguard themselves, their partner, or civilians, then yes by all means quit.
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    In Obama's America, the criminal is favored over the law-enforcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeJoe View Post
    I'm not seeing the issue. They arrested him without anyone dying correct?

    That is what police are suppose to do. They are not the be judge, jury and executioner on the streets.
    The issue Joe is that the officer stated she didn't want to use her weapon because she was afraid of the backlash, specifically the SJW/BLM/cop-hate backlash that comes from a White officer lawfully shooting a Black criminal.

    The issue is that a cop failed to do her duty putting her life, and her partners life, in extreme danger.

    The luck of her escaping with only a disfigured scalp is no justification for failing to follow her training.

    We cannot have cops that will pass their judgement through an SJW filter any more than we can have them passing judgement through a racial one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sky High View Post
    nope! as Zomb said they should have put the subhuman down like the beast he is. /s
    Grow up.

    You either completely missed the point, are unable to see the problem, or are just here to pick a fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packers01 View Post
    ...the man can get the help he needs.
    The brute is going to get 40 years for the attempted murder of a police officer.

    (hopefully, unless some ACLU parasite gets him off)

    Let's hope the prison guards "help" him acclimate to this new home.
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  7. #47
    pcp usually means they're immune to tasers and pepper spray.

    i think in this case maybe popping off a shot or two would have been justifiable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombergy View Post
    Grow up.

    You either completely missed the point, are unable to see the problem, or are just here to pick a fight.
    fuck off?

    cops are not occupiers, they are supposed to be members of the community that we trust to keep us safe. not act like they are the sum of the law. your point that they should just not give a shit about that and just put down as YOU said a subhuman (real subtle there) only shows what an authoritative prick you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckSparkles View Post
    In Obama's America, the criminal is favored over the law-enforcement.
    In BuckSparkles world, an outcome that doesn't involve someone dead, is favoring the criminal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky High View Post
    fuck off?

    cops are not occupiers, they are supposed to be members of the community that we trust to keep us safe. not act like they are the sum of the law. your point that they should just not give a shit about that and just put down as YOU said a subhuman (real subtle there) only shows what an authoritative prick you are.
    Now ask him what he thinks about big government... I am now convinced he means midgets and not government over reach...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky High View Post
    fuck off?

    cops are not occupiers, they are supposed to be members of the community that we trust to keep us safe. not act like they are the sum of the law. your point that they should just not give a shit about that and just put down as YOU said a subhuman (real subtle there) only shows what an authoritative prick you are.
    Except the guy should've been shot, tasing will do nothing to somebody on PCP.
    Granted, the police officers quite obviously need much better training in martial combat AND how to deal with situations like this, but the officer-victim's life was at risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    In BuckSparkles world, an outcome that doesn't involve someone dead, is favoring the criminal.
    If a man on PCP assaulted a cop and tried to kill them, there would be no great loss if the cop shot his ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volibear View Post
    Except the guy should've been shot, tasing will do nothing to somebody on PCP.
    Granted, the police officers quite obviously need much better training in martial combat AND how to deal with situations like this, but the officer-victim's life was at risk.
    I'll agree they should have wrestled him to the ground, held him, and made the arrest. why they didn't opt for that right off the bat is a mystery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Tell me doctor Zoombergy, when the said useless cop should have fired on the culprit ? Tell me.

    Please, people note : the OP said the weapon should have been drawn (and presumably used) at 0.24. Please, tell me, what the culprit done at 0.24 that warrant the dead penalty (coined as ''being put down'', you know, to use snarl words to imply that the dude is not an human being)

    Clearly you fail at reading comprehension, and logic. If drawn at :24 then she'd have been able to fire AFTER :35 and BEFORE 1:25. After :35 opens up justifiable shooting.
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    Old news is old. All anyone needed to know is she shouldn't have been a cop, and this deadbeat no life gangbanger should've been shot dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fengosa View Post
    The situation was resolved without any fatalities. This seems like it was the best case scenario for all involved. I think she's a hero and deserves a promotion.
    Barely, her head being bashed in so many times could have killed her. Keep in mind, she is CONCUSSED. Had that been accompanied by internal bleeding from the bruising of the brain she'd be much worse off then she was. She's lucky, but she's probably going to be sitting on a desk for awhile with her injuries. It's even possible she may never recover enough to return to the field. That's how bad concussions can be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckSparkles View Post
    If a man on PCP assaulted a cop and tried to kill them, there would be no great loss if the cop shot his ass.
    I consider shooting people on drugs to be a huge loss to society. If a cop is able to aprehand a drug addict, that is unarmed, without anyone dying, they are a great cop. The guy attacking is now facing additional charges, that wouldn't result in him having a good time. A cop that doesn't kill the perpetrator needs to be galvanized around and the fact no one died celebrated. This is why their jobs are difficult... this is why cops should be honored and respected...

    Instead you go with bullshit like Obama's America? No great loss? How about thinking about the actual and majority of great cops that do this every fucking day. No... you need to get your political rocks off... I bet you are a contortionist...
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    Be honest, dudes : for you, police means ''shooting criminals in the head'' ?

    There is a crime in the USA that does not desserve summary execution by vigilantes with big virile manly guns ?

    (Internet...the only place where people brag about tough and manly there are in saying ''LULZ I would have shot him in the head'' and call people who do not immediately their gun to shoot culprit ''beta cucks'' or, worse, ''wumin'')
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky High View Post
    fuck off?

    cops are not occupiers, they are supposed to be members of the community that we trust to keep us safe. not act like they are the sum of the law. your point that they should just not give a shit about that and just put down as YOU said a subhuman (real subtle there) only shows what an authoritative prick you are.
    Failing to do your job because you're worried about what a highly-radicalized highly-vocal clique of miscreants is going to say afterwards is not acceptable.

    Let me quote myself from post #45:

    The issue Joe is that the officer stated she didn't want to use her weapon because she was afraid of the backlash, specifically the SJW/BLM/cop-hate backlash that comes from a White officer lawfully shooting a Black criminal.

    The issue is that a cop failed to do her duty putting her life, and her partners life, in extreme danger.

    The luck of her escaping with only a disfigured scalp is no justification for failing to follow her training.

    We cannot have cops that will pass their judgement through an SJW filter any more than we can have them passing judgement through a racial one.
    And a subhuman in my book is the type of "person" who gets reckd on PCP, drives down a busy street, and tries to kill a cop.

    Please don't tell me that "real subtle" crack was an attempt to go racial.

    Do you really want to join the ranks of the closet-racists of MMO-C who think certain words can only apply to certain skin colors?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombergy View Post
    Failing to do your job because you're worried about what a highly-radicalized highly-vocal clique of miscreants is going to say afterwards is not acceptable.
    No one got killed, the perpetrator is aprehanded... who exactly failed to do their jobs? You only wish you could do as good a job under such pressure.

    Cops should fear a public backlash, for this very reason. She did the right thing, she succeeded... you are most likely incompetent at your job, if you think police failed here.
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    Oh yes, using PCP make you an ''animal''

    Bragging online that you have big guns and you are ready to use them to execute ''criminals'' (people that look suspect to you and they are criminals, since you have a big manly gun in the hands and are thus ''duh law) is however being a patriot.

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