Final Presidential Debate - October 19, 2016

[Saucexorzski]

I live in the South, I know better. But you keep beating that 'splitting up the country' rhetoric you heard on Rush, it's working so well at reinforcing your delusions.

If that's what rush says I wouldn't know, I'm just looking at the vile you and a few other on these boards spew against your fellow countrymen. You treat the Trumpers in the very same fashion they treat muslims. I see no difference between the you all and Trumps die hard fanatics.

[Venant]

"Avoiding" a war by submitting to Russia's desires isn't the win you apparently think it is.

You are going through ridiculous mental contortions to support Clinton's absurd doubling down on a no-fly zone over Syria. What authority do we have to even be in Syria? Are you inferring that the Al Qaeda terrorists who we have been propping up to fight a proxy war are the legitimate government of Syria?

I'm sick of the propaganda pushed about intervening in Syria due to 'humanitarian concerns'. We funneled weapons and foreign fighters into Syria in order to create this civil war, we created the humanitarian crisis because we are working out of the neocon regime-change playbook.

Do you personally support 'regime change' in Syria now because of the policies of your candidate?

[Casterbridge]

http://thebulletin.org/what-would-ha...-manhattan8023

So a single Russian MIRV will deploy 10 800 Kiloton warheads, useful info for surviving a Hillary Clinton presidency.

Yeah because voting Clinton will ensure Russian Nuclear war, got it.

EDIT:
I should be clear here I haven't decided to vote Clinton, I have decided to not vote Trump, well technically I decided that quite a while ago.

The fact that man has people believing he can effectively deal with foreign powers requires a level of kool aid drinking I can't even comprehend.

[Noxx79]

You are going through ridiculous mental contortions to support Clinton's absurd doubling down on a no-fly zone over Syria. What authority do we have to even be in Syria? Are you inferring that the Al Qaeda terrorists who we have been propping up to fight a proxy war are the legitimate government of Syria?

I'm sick of the propaganda pushed about intervening in Syria due to 'humanitarian concerns'. We funneled weapons and foreign fighters into Syria in order to create this civil war, we created the humanitarian crisis because we are working out of the neocon regime-change playbook.

Do you personally support 'regime change' in Syria now because of the policies of your candidate?

It's pretty funny that you are falling for the Russian propaganda that a no-fly zone over Syria will lead to nuclear war. Are you really that stupid or just pretending to be? Your faux intellectualism only seems to be covering up the fact that you know you are just as gullible as you proclaim everyone else to be.

[Venant]

Yeah, the same stuff Trump advocates for publicly. Let's go commit some war crimes by bombing the families of terrorists.

We are already killing terrorists families, haven't you been paying attention? How many thousands of civilians do you think Obama has killed? When we kill a specific terrorist for the 10th time in a drone strike, don't you wonder who all the people we had been killing all those other times were?

[May90]

Ah good, some people who think that it's worth starting a war with Russia over some scumbag Al Qaeda terrorists ... ooops I mean 'moderate rebels'

Clinton is a bigger warmonger than Dick Cheney, and she has apparently demented her supporters who now want further involvement with Syria

There WON'T be a war with Russia over Syria. What conspiracy outlet are you using this time that tells you otherwise?

[Venant]

It's pretty funny that you are falling for the Russian propaganda that a no-fly zone over Syria will lead to nuclear war. Are you really that stupid or just pretending to be? Your faux intellectualism only seems to be covering up the fact that you know you are just as gullible as you proclaim everyone else to be.

Oh please, do correct the record for us and explain how a no-fly zone in an area where the Russian air force is flying is not a provocation of war.

[Breccia]

When we kill a specific terrorist for the 10th time in a drone strike, don't you wonder who all the people we had been killing all those other times were?

Well that sounds like someone who can back up their claim with evidence. Let's see it. Name the terrorist we "killed" ten times.

You know what? Five.

Ah fuck it. Three.

[Venant]

There WON'T be a war with Russia over Syria. What conspiracy outlet are you using this time that tells you otherwise?

Did you watch the debate last night? Clinton doubled down on the Syria no fly zone and dodged the question about shooting down Russian aircraft.

[Endus]

You are going through ridiculous mental contortions to support Clinton's absurd doubling down on a no-fly zone over Syria. What authority do we have to even be in Syria? Are you inferring that the Al Qaeda terrorists who we have been propping up to fight a proxy war are the legitimate government of Syria?

The USA's been involved in Syria directly since 2014. Operation Inherent Resolve, and all that, an international (but US-led) intervention force; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combin...herent_Resolve

Do you personally support 'regime change' in Syria now because of the policies of your candidate?

Clinton isn't "my candidate", but I'm not going to shed any tears if Assad loses power, no. Regardless, the USA's been at this for years; Clinton's just talking about a next-step to what they're already committed to doing, when the alternative is to tuck your tails between your legs and bow down to Russia.

[May90]

Did you watch the debate last night? Clinton doubled down on the Syria no fly zone and dodged the question about shooting down Russian aircraft.

The hell does no fly zone have to do with war with Russia? I second Vanyali's statement on your understanding of these things.

[Venant]

Well that sounds like someone who can back up their claim with evidence. Let's see it. Name the terrorist we "killed" ten times.

You know what? Five.

Ah fuck it. Three.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ikes-kill-1147

Thats a good start, we barely cover the drone campaign in US media.

[Noxx79]

Oh please, do correct the record for us and explain how a no-fly zone in an area where the Russian air force is flying is not a provocation of war.

You are so gullible it's not even funny. It's pretty pathetic you how try to cover up your ignorance with "BUT BUT NUKES"

I'm done with you. When you learn to look at things objectively and not through a lens of "I'm right, everyone else is stupid" maybe we'll talk.

In the mean time, you can sit and stew in your self assurance that the world will only work the way you want it to. And when you finally go outside, you'll be utterly shocked.

[Endus]

The hell does no fly zone have to do with war with Russia? I second Vanyali's statement on your understanding of these things.

Basically, Russia might not like a no-fly zone, and might decide to wield their relatively puny armed forces against the USA, so Americans should shake in their boots that the relatively weak remnants of an enemy they crushed in the decades-long Cold War might ineffectually slap back.

Or something. The idea that Russia is anything close to the strength of the Soviet Union in its heyday is laughable. When the USA is arguably stronger than ever.

I might dislike that the USA spends so much on its military and involves itself so much overseas, but the idea that Russia is any kind of significant threat is pretty ridiculous.

[Breccia]

Thats a good start, we barely cover the drone campaign in US media.

I can't help but notice you didn't answer my question. I'll give you another attempt to defend your statement.

[alexw]

The dixiecrats are dead, you keep on beating that horse though, mean while the racism the left has brought about in the black community is alive and well. Keep up the good work of spiting this country.

No they are not. If you were a teen or in your twenties during the 60's you would be in your 60's and 70's now. Now guess which age groups the republicans dominate with?

[Venant]

You are so gullible it's not even funny. It's pretty pathetic you how try to cover up your ignorance with "BUT BUT NUKES"

I'm done with you. When you learn to look at things objectively and not through a lens of "I'm right, everyone else is stupid" maybe we'll talk.

In the mean time, you can sit and stew in your self assurance that the world will only work the way you want it to. And when you finally go outside, you'll be utterly shocked.

Ad hominem ad hominem ad hominem ...

The CTR is strong in this one.

[waitwutt]

Naw, she just cant help herself. She's grabbing him by the pu**y.

did you just make a sexual assault joke?

[LaserSharkDFB]

We are already killing terrorists families, haven't you been paying attention? How many thousands of civilians do you think Obama has killed? When we kill a specific terrorist for the 10th time in a drone strike, don't you wonder who all the people we had been killing all those other times were?

In case you weren't aware, there's a big difference between 'collateral damage' (which is already pretty shitty) and specifically targeting the civilian relatives of terrorists. There's a reason the latter is against the Geneva Conventions. Which, I know, Trump (and I suppose you?) is not a fan of, but he doesn't get to make that choice.

[Kujako]

In order for Hillary to enforce a no fly zone she would have to actually shoot down things flying in it. This could possibly start a war. I don't know how you would enforce that and I'm pretty sure Hillary doesn't intend to.

The reality is Hillary won't just enforce a no fly zone day one of her presidency. And Russia won't just escalate to a nuclear war if we did. Chess game analogy.

The "or else" part of the no fly zones "don't fly here or else" can have many levels bellow "we shoot you".

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did you just make a sexual assault joke?

Of course not! That was like, ten hours ago.