How to solve your alt "problem"

[Jaylock]

1) Level your alts to 110.

2) Start your artifact knowledge research the moment you hit 110.

3) Play your main for regular progression, dungeons, raids, wqs, emmisary caches, mythic+ dungeons etc.

4) Log in to your alts to farm the wq GEAR you see on your map and occasionally the order resources.

5) Collect Artifact research notes every 2-3 days on your alts, while still normally playing your main.

6) Take it easy and after a few weeks of collecting artifact research notes, play an alt normally and get increased AP from the increased knowledge level.

7) Profit.


The point of alts are just that. They are ALTS. They are not meant to be on equal footing with a main character. I have 6 level 110 characters, with 1 being my main, and of course my main is the best geared and most progressed, but as i have been playing like the above 7 steps, 2 of my alts are done with their class campaign, they are at 830+ item level, with one being at 852. Their artifact weapons have 2 gold crests. Keep in mind that I have a full time job, a wife and other responsibilities. This is me playing here and there, not no-life status.

In short, quit trying to argue that the expansion is not Alt friendly.

[DarkTZeratul]

Holy crap, am I agreeing with Jaylock?

...I'm agreeing with Jaylock. What alternate universe have I stepped into?

[Gaexion Ramza Beoulve]

Congratulations, you've reached the end of the thread.

[Soisoisoi]

Pretty much what I have been doing. The app also has the Artifact Research option on too so there's no excuse for not being able to do this (outside of running out of Order Resources /lazy)

[melodramocracy]

Or use path B:

1) Figure out on the PTR how lame most classes actually are before the expansion even starts
2) Pick the one that is least annoying, main it.
3) Profit

See? No alt problems.

[Spotnick]

Problem is at some point you'll out out of resources and will have to go get some.

[Katchii]

In short, quit trying to argue that the expansion is not Alt friendly.

Coming up with a less aggravating way to get your alt caught up doesn't automatically make it alt friendly. I agree with your approach, take it easy with your alts and don't stress, but the fact that we (community in general) are even having this discussion across several threads means that the expansion is in general not friendly towards alts, there are just varying degrees of "painful" ways to deal with it.

[finchna]

Perhaps resources could be made account-bound? Perhaps all the WQ and emissary gear that gets vendored by mains could be account-bound (and flex for armor requirements)?

[Deleted]

... and what if your intend is to pvp (arena) with your alts?

[Jaylock]

Coming up with a less aggravating way to get your alt caught up doesn't automatically make it alt friendly. I agree with your approach, take it easy with your alts and don't stress, but the fact that we (community in general) are even having this discussion across several threads means that the expansion is in general not friendly towards alts, there are just varying degrees of "painful" ways to deal with it.

If alt friendliness was measured on a scale of 1-10, I could make the argument that the game has swung much too far to the 10 side, as it was never the intent of the designers to allow players to have 12 fully geared, equipped and equal on the power level characters as your main.

Plus, like all expansion, the alt friendliness increases as the length of the expansion goes on. So in WoD for example, the HFC patch gave essentially free welfare pvp gear to those who ran asharan for a day and jumped a freshly dinged alt from 600 ilvl to 700 in a day.

If AP is the supposed "problem" people are understanding the power of artifact levels wrong then. AP is kind of like paragon levels in Diablo 3. Each trait in your artifact weapon gives marginal at best increases to the power of your character. ilvl is still the best way to increase the power of your character, and you get that from gear drops from all the sources that gear can drop, which is massive.

[Video Games]

That doesn't make playing an alt fun though. In fact you're barely playing it at all so what is the point?

[TheFuse]

I like how you spend all this time spewing whatever comes up into the text box, Jaylock, but you never actually have anything of value to say. Have you considered becoming a CM for the official Blizzard? You seem perfectly equipped for the job.

[Deleted]

So you solve the alt problems by telling us not to play our alts for a few months?

[Deleted]

So you can solve the problem by waiting a couple of months? GENIUS! Why have i not thought of that before? Oh wait that is the problem everyone is pissed about..

[Deleted]

Problem is at some point you'll out out of resources and will have to go get some.

One Blood of Sargeras grants you 200 Order Resources in a BoA box.
That's 3 Bloods every few days to keep up AK researching.

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Perhaps resources could be made account-bound?

It sort of is, if you have disposable Blood of Sargeras.

[Deleted]

Problem is at some point you'll out out of resources and will have to go get some.

buy resources on your main with blood of sargeras and mail it to your alt

e: guy above me beat me to it

[Jaylock]

So you can solve the problem by waiting a couple of months? GENIUS! Why have i not thought of that before? Oh wait that is the problem everyone is pissed about..

No if you actually read what I wrote, you still log in and can get gear upgrades and play normally.

Not everything revolves around AP. Item level is exclusive of AP. So take it easy and get gear upgrades and once you have a good artifact knowledge level, then push the AP farming hardcore on your alt.

Progressing ones character doesn't sit solely on having a high artifact level, in fact, its a pretty minuscule part of gearing.

I had 2 gold crests on my warrior before i hit 110.

[Danbala]

Wait? What instance did you get the wife drop? I've been farming for a while and no such luck.

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

Each trait in your artifact weapon gives marginal at best increases to the power of your character.

By themselves sure the traits don't add too much power, but a complete artifact tree is a flat 15% increase in DPS.

[JonBeMerkin]

Waiting 3 weeks to efficiently play an alt is not an acceptable solution to the problem.