Best Gaming Monitor 2016!

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What did you not like about it, first person ive ever seen that said had a bad experience with strobing.

It seemed a bit dark and muted the colours. Its probably best to ignore my opinions on this as i really doubt i set it up properly and am just very very happy with gsync and 165hz

[Artorius]

Holy shit remilka and antorias thanks for all that info and effort.

Just out of curiosity what displays do you use?

Have either of you tried the acer 271hu ? Id live to know what you think of it.

Remilia has an Eizo FG2421 and a Dell U2414H as far as I remember. I have a 64" Samsung F8500 Plasma and in my computer I'm using a random 8 years old Samsung CCFL 16:10 monitor that refuses to die.

I wanted to buy a 2560x1600 monitor for some years but they literally disappeared from existence in the consumer market, and now whenever I think about buying a new one I remember that maybe UHD + DCI-P3 becomes the standard soon so the purchase will be in vain. If I were to buy one now though I'd probably just buy a simple U2417H and be happy. I'd rather buy some nice VA model instead but Samsung isn't selling them here =( I could get a 40" VA UHD TV and use it as monitor, but the input lag and the size would probably be inconvenient...

[Remilia]

It seemed a bit dark and muted the colours. Its probably best to ignore my opinions on this as i really doubt i set it up properly and am just very very happy with gsync and 165hz

That's actually pretty common with Nvidia's ULMB implementation on their Gsync thingy.
Eizo's 240Hz motion blur reduction on FG2421 achieves a max brightness of 250cd/m2 and on the FS2735 a max brightness of about 180cd/m2. BenQ's implementation on XL2730Z for example, is 190cd/m2 max brightness. Color accuracy and temperature changes a tiny bit but not too heavily. Won't be noticed unless you have an instrument to test it.
ULMB on the other hand, typical max brightness is 110cd/m2. Color temperature doesn't change too much typically but accuracy sometimes shifts by 1-2 delta E for certain colors, especially blue, which can be noticeable by the eye.

Holy shit remilka and antorias thanks for all that info and effort.

Just out of curiosity what displays do you use?

Have either of you tried the acer 271hu ? Id live to know what you think of it.

Personally I use Eizo FG2421 and Dell U2414H atm. @Artorius god damn it.
I won't say the XB271HU is horrendous, but Acer's QA is pretty horrendous.

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Yeah ill agree with you about scer and asus qc. I got lucky first time but many others have been through a lot of returns.

[Atwood]

Have a good read of that overclockers link i posted lots of info and pictures there so you know what to look out for.

All ips monitors of this type have dome glow i barely notice it in a dark room and a black image displayed. Mine has no blb since i loosened the screw behind the logo. No dead pixels, no dust or hairs or dead squirrels trapped in the panel either. Mar 2016 manufacture date. Mine doesnt have the very latest firmware but ive had no problems with it so far set to 165hz.

Would love to know how you get on with yours.

Everything was fine from far but if i went closer at the Pixel Test dada! A wild Dead Pixel appeared! Only at the Black Color :/ now i'am searching how can i update the Firmware of the Monitor to get it work.

I'am scared i don't want if i'am not changing it and get a new one the Dead Pixel will eat the other Pixel like Pacman and after that i have more Dead Pixel -.-

So what should i do?

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Personally for how much they cost i want near perfection. Send it back and take another chance.

If you pkay woe, you should be used to this

[Remilia]

Everything was fine from far but if i went closer at the Pixel Test dada! A wild Dead Pixel appeared! Only at the Black Color :/ now i'am searching how can i update the Firmware of the Monitor to get it work.

I'am scared i don't want if i'am not changing it and get a new one the Dead Pixel will eat the other Pixel like Pacman and after that i have more Dead Pixel -.-

So what should i do?

That'd technically be a bright pixel, which is still pretty bad but just a tiny difference. Dead / partial / bright pixels are all physical damages and firmware won't fix it. Firmware updates are only handled by the manufacturer also.

If you still can, send it back to the retailer/etailer, Acer's dead pixel policy is utter shit.

[Cyrops]

@Artorius Oh and yeah you can edit it a bit, the low persistence OLED in Rift/Vive are black frame inserts, 1 insert per frame 2ms persistence.
@Cyrops That said, if you're worried about black levels and high refresh rate you'd probably want to look at one of the BenQ monitors, but they're 35" at 2560x1080 or wait and see how the new Samsung / BenQ releases are. AUO's (BenQ's) new high refresh VA panels took a regression for viewing angle shifts though compared to their normal / recent AMVAs. Pretty sure most if not all new high refresh BenQ monitors has their low motion blur thingy added so that's a bonus.
My FG2421's MVA panel has a 5000:1 spec and real life contrast (measured it myself and reviews) which honestly is pretty nice for a desktop display. There aren't that many 5000:1 contrast desktop monitor, let alone high refresh, well... there's only one that's discontinued.

I've read through the thread, looks like Acer and Asus have poor QC which is a big thing in my country, I can't return a good monitor or they would just send it back to me, I wouldn't get another one. The only BenQ's with 144hz I see are TN panels, are they going to make an IPS one? I would be more inclined to wait for that (or if Dell ever releases 144hz monitor) instead of gambling with asus and acer.

[Deleted]

Which country are you in? Eu consumer law pretty much means you can send anything back.

[Vantro]

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Gaming-S.../dp/B0149QBOF0

I bought one of these a few months ago for ~450 after tax. I love the thing, 1440p, GSync, 27 inches. People complain because it's a TN, but the quality of the monitor was worth the extra money and I hardly ever see anyone say they need to return due to dead pixels. Their QA is higher than the other brands.

[SLSAMG]

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Gaming-S.../dp/B0149QBOF0

I bought one of these a few months ago for ~450 after tax. I love the thing, 1440p, GSync, 27 inches. People complain because it's a TN, but the quality of the monitor was worth the extra money and I hardly ever see anyone say they need to return due to dead pixels. Their QA is higher than the other brands.

At the end of the day, it's still overpriced for a shitty tn panel.

Personally, I'm torn between the new lg 38uc99-w (3840x1600 @ 38") and the dell u3417w. I don't really care for high hz panels anymore since I've long stopped playing cs competitively.

[Remilia]

I've read through the thread, looks like Acer and Asus have poor QC which is a big thing in my country, I can't return a good monitor or they would just send it back to me, I wouldn't get another one. The only BenQ's with 144hz I see are TN panels, are they going to make an IPS one? I would be more inclined to wait for that (or if Dell ever releases 144hz monitor) instead of gambling with asus and acer.

Nothing announced so far, also the XF model you linked is TN which is why I kind of assumed you aren't too bothered.
Dell released a 144Hz, it's S2716DG.

The main con for TN panels are the off angle color shifts/perceived color uniformity so it really depends on how much that matters to you and how close you sit. Matters to me personally but that varies per person. However the bigger the screen the more obvious it can get. That's it though. Everything else is the same essentially between IPS and TN.

[Cyrops]

Nothing announced so far, also the XF model you linked is TN which is why I kind of assumed you aren't too bothered.
Dell released a 144Hz, it's S2716DG.

The main con for TN panels are the off angle color shifts/perceived color uniformity so it really depends on how much that matters to you and how close you sit. Matters to me personally but that varies per person. However the bigger the screen the more obvious it can get. That's it though. Everything else is the same essentially between IPS and TN.

Oh, but that Dell seems to be TN, I currently have u24 I am happy with it, image quality is important to me, so I am still on the fence with TN panels :/

[Fascinate]

Way too much hate is given to TN panels imho, they are a lot better than they used to be. I have this monitor and honestly the picture quality on it to my eyes is outstanding, and its over 5 years old:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824262011


Im sure the newer dells are even better.

Ill go even farther here, a lot of the benefits of IPS panels are lost as a monitor. For the life of me i cannot wrap my brain around why people harp on viewing angles on a PC monitor, 99.99999999999% of people sit directly in front of it lol.

[Remilia]

Oh, but that Dell seems to be TN, I currently have u24 I am happy with it, image quality is important to me, so I am still on the fence with TN panels :/

Image quality between the two panel type are the same. The only two things modern day monitors as noted is off angle view and response time. If we were talking ten years ago that'd be a different thing, but nowadays it's not. Only LCD panel that'd effect image quality difference are VA panels, just due to contrast.

Off angle color shifts can be noticed easier on bigger screen and depends on how far you sit. If you say, sit about 2-3 feet away with a 27" monitor, you'd notice it at the outer rim / corners. The further you sit away the less noticeable it gets.

It really really depends on personal factors, for me it matters cause of how close I sit and the fact that I'm barely actually directly in the center of the monitor. That's just me personally.

[Cows For Life]

Way too much hate is given to TN panels imho, they are a lot better than they used to be. I have this monitor and honestly the picture quality on it to my eyes is outstanding, and its over 5 years old:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824262011


Im sure the newer dells are even better.

Ill go even farther here, a lot of the benefits of IPS panels are lost as a monitor. For the life of me i cannot wrap my brain around why people harp on viewing angles on a PC monitor, 99.99999999999% of people sit directly in front of it lol.

Viewing angle spec hasn't changed. TN is what it is.

[Fascinate]

Viewing angle spec hasn't changed. TN is what it is.

Ok? Again, why do you need viewing angle for a PC monitor? Please enlighten me i honestly dont understand this line of thinking. For a TV a TN based display would be just beyond awful, but when are you looking at a PC monitor at even a slight angle?

[Cyrops]

Image quality between the two panel type are the same. The only two things modern day monitors as noted is off angle view and response time. If we were talking ten years ago that'd be a different thing, but nowadays it's not. Only LCD panel that'd effect image quality difference are VA panels, just due to contrast.

Off angle color shifts can be noticed easier on bigger screen and depends on how far you sit. If you say, sit about 2-3 feet away with a 27" monitor, you'd notice it at the outer rim / corners. The further you sit away the less noticeable it gets.

It really really depends on personal factors, for me it matters cause of how close I sit and the fact that I'm barely actually directly in the center of the monitor. That's just me personally.

I should look for TN panel in shop to see it for myself I guess. I sit directly in center of the monitor, it's also slightly below eye level, so I look a bit downwards, the distance would be 2-4 feet and since I am looking at 27" I could run into similar issues.

As a side note, I was looking at TV's and the OLED curved one picture quality looks awesome, which is what I decided to get some time in future if I win the lottery lol.

[SLSAMG]

Ok? Again, why do you need viewing angle for a PC monitor? Please enlighten me i honestly dont understand this line of thinking. For a TV a TN based display would be just beyond awful, but when are you looking at a PC monitor at even a slight angle?

Are you serious lol? Some people have limited desk space. Plus, TN's colors are washed out and look atrocious in comparison.

Believe it or not; color gamut is very important for those in the video/photo editing industry.

[Remilia]

Are you serious lol? Some people have limited desk space. Plus, TN's colors are washed out and look atrocious in comparison.

Believe it or not; color gamut is very important for those in the video/photo editing industry.

There's absolutely no difference in image quality between a modern TN and modern IPS outside of viewing angle. Sure if we go back 12+ years you'd see a difference due to it being 6bit color depth, but these days they're capable of 8bit and 10bit output. Gamut is independent of panel type. Gamut is entirely dependent on backlight.

Let's play a game, 4 different monitors, mixture of IPS and TN. Which one is which.