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    Quote Originally Posted by HomeHoney View Post
    ive never heard of anyone lobbying for taking away guns

    only for regulating gun ownership by requiring all would be owners to prove they are capable, responsible, trustworthy and safety conscious

    and yes, if you dont meet those criteria, you dont get to own a gun

    however, no one is stepping up to ensure those criteria are met, so current gun owners really have nothing to worry about =P
    Diane Feinstein has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Him of Many Faces View Post
    2nd amendment does jack shit. the militaries loyalty is what matters if you want to change the government by force. (either the military utterly crushes a revolution attempt, or it allows it to succeed by not intervening on purpose.)

    not that that will ever happen anyways, it's a loosing proposition for everybody involved.
    It currently would be a winning proposition for the right. The military is still led by conservatives, and conservatives greatly outgun liberals and control the areas that produce the fuel, food, and water liberal cities need to survive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacox View Post
    I thought Obama was taking their guns 8 years ago?
    He didnt get the chance to stack the Supreme Court with anti gun liberals, the most effective way of banning them.

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    Gavin newsome is the biggest gungrabber in the USA. He will probably be elected governor of California after blundering gun grabber jerry brown croaks.

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    Lmao hearing all these experts from ADF and SPLC. Cancer of the society. I'd enjoy watching them to try taking guns from everyone. It will cause a civil war in which one pathetic side will finally perish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    He didnt get the chance to stack the Supreme Court with anti gun liberals, the most effective way of banning them.
    After scalia mysteriously died with a pillow over his face out in the middle of nowhere, I was scared Obama would try to immediately appoint a known gun grabber judge. Of course he did and luckily the forces of good saw this and blocked his attempt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    It currently would be a winning proposition for the right. The military is still led by conservatives, and conservatives greatly outgun liberals and control the areas that produce the fuel, food, and water liberal cities need to survive.
    For people already in power it's a particularly stupid idea.

    In order to be better off:
    -the coup needs to succeed
    -they need to survive
    -they need to be in the new government

    but even if all that happens, the economy will shrink because big parts of the GDP that used to be invested in things that grew the economy, will now have to be invested in maintaining the new government (e.g. keeping the generals happy so they wont kill you, keeping the population in check since a smart healty population is likely to rebel), so chances are that while they get a bigger cut of the pie, it's possible the entire pie will be so much smaller they aren't better off.

    it's just risked stacked upon risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Him of Many Faces View Post
    For people already in power it's a particularly stupid idea.

    In order to be better off:
    -the coup needs to succeed
    -they need to survive
    -they need to be in the new government

    but even if all that happens, the economy will shrink because big parts of the GDP that used to be invested in things that grew the economy, will now have to be invested in maintaining the new government (e.g. keeping the generals happy so they wont kill you, keeping the population in check since a smart healty population is likely to rebel), so chances are that while they get a bigger cut of the pie, it's possible the entire pie will be so much smaller they aren't better off.

    it's just risked stacked upon risk.
    Those in power dont start civil wars....

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    Well how else will the NRA scare people into knee-jerk buying more guns if not to use the same exact scare tactic every time it looks like a Democrat is going to become President?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    Well how else will the NRA scare people into knee-jerk buying more guns if not to use the same exact scare tactic every time it looks like a Democrat is going to become President?
    The nra is completely member funded. Just regular people paying a membership fee annually.

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    You guys do realize they are terrorists, right? Calling them militia is wrong.

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    It's hilarious that people actually believe that the right to bear arms is the only thing holding the United States together, saving it from civil war, revolution, anarchy and structural decline. How dense and deluded can you be? Who feeds you this crap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    You guys do realize they are terrorists, right? Calling them militia is wrong.
    A militia can commit terrorist acts and still be a militia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myz View Post
    How dense and deluded can you be? Who feeds you this crap?
    Republicans via the Southern Strategy, of course.

    A few years back the RNC Chairman himself apologized for the continued use of exploiting racial tensions to build a coalition of morons and bigots for the votes they can't outright steal through mass voter disfranchisement of US citizens.

    Whipping up white supremacists into a frenzy is the Republican bread and butter, you could say. According to the former RNC Chairman himself, anyway.
    There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." - Isaac Asimov

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felfury View Post
    A militia can commit terrorist acts and still be a militia.
    Indeed. They aren't mutually exclusive. They are a terrorist militia, simple. They are an armed group of non-professional fighters (=militia) who intentionally use violence, or threaten to do so, to further their ideological goals (=terrorism).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    Diane Feinstein has.
    Military assault weapons, not all guns, just ones that should be for the military

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myz View Post
    It's hilarious that people actually believe that the right to bear arms is the only thing holding the United States together, saving it from civil war, revolution, anarchy and structural decline. How dense and deluded can you be? Who feeds you this crap?
    Our history books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tollshot View Post
    Shell shocked vets and right wing nutter living in the woods, who really gives a fuck what those wahoos think?
    Because they are more likely terrorists than Islamic radicals here in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felfury View Post
    A militia can commit terrorist acts and still be a militia.
    and why are there are no news articles report them as so?

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    Do they also have their tinfoil hats ready?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    and why are there are no news articles report them as so?
    Because US media mostly ignores non islamic Terrorism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Even in some fantasy future land where some law is passed criminalizing gun possession entirely, and law enforcement is entitled to "grab guns", resisting that action with anything stronger than loud whining would be illegal. Engaging in armed, organized resistance to those laws and those who would execute them? We have a word for that. That word is terrorism.

    These people are wannabe terrorists. They're only functionally different from Al-Qaeda because they want to enforce Christian law on everyone, rather than Muslim law. That's not an improvement in any respect.
    There is a point though that someone "terrorist" is someone else's patriot. It depends on which side you are on.



    Are they terrorists? Or patriots? You'll read in many a US text book something along the lines of American Patriots threw tea into Boston harbor to protest xyz. Which turned of course into the ultimately the USA. I don't necessarily support this Georgia Militia. But its all on which side of the fence you are whether someone is a terrorist or patriot.

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    I wonder how many tanks these militia's have, or jets or aircraft carriers? How do these people not see how delusional their world view is?

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