Should some countries trade locations?

[Captain Proton]

Usually when the economy cracks due to such scenarios, it experiences a huge boom afterwards. I doubt they would have a problem with that.

Russia and China would probably love to help out so they can have a new, fantastic neighbour.

When the economy cracks due to two countries switching locations, it experiences a huge boom aftewards? Oh really? Please, go on.

You post so much shit, what a joke.

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When the economy cracks due to two countries switching locations, it experiences a huge boom aftewards? Oh really? Please, go on.

You post so much shit, what a joke.

The people will keep their education, and would have incentive to build (infrastructure, housing, and more), and therefore would experience a surge in economy quickly. Things would be cheap, too. Investment would pour in like crazy.

That said, there are about 2 million people here - slightly less than Mongolia's population:



People think something of this scale would be hard to relocate? Especially considering their apartments and houses are generally VERY cheap and easy to build? Considering they have simple jobs that there would be an abundance of in their new country?

[markos82]

I seriously mean this. Here is my proposal for two countries to trade place: Mongolia and Serbia https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ia_Locator.png

Consider the populations and locations of Serbia and Mongolia, respectively. In total, they amount just about 10 million people. Location wise, both populations would find it very suitable in their exchanged places. For instance, Mongolia is between two rather expansionist powers, Russia and China, and could easily be wrecked by either if they decide to extend their interests to that country. However, Serbia has good relations with both countries, and no historical enmity with them. Especially with Russia does Serbia have a good brotherly relationship.

In addition, Serbia has huge issues with its neighbours, ranging from Albanians, to Montenegrins, to Croats and others. It has committed genocide and has a high amount of people who believe a Greater Serbia should be established in the regions of all of the aforementioned people (among others). Moreover, even they could be victims of the nationalist or perceived self-defence policies of the other peoples.

So, rather than expanding their territory through bloodshed and risking all they have, instead they can simply relocate to Mongolia (and rename it, of course), whereas Mongolians can locate to Serbia. Mongolians have zero enmity with any people in Europe, and have absolutely more than enough land and resources in Serbian territory. Their population is LESS than 3 million, but the size of their country is huge.

Both Serbs and Mongolians would have more peace in their territories. They would both be richer and safer, because they would not be at risk of invasions, and would have more trade (e.g., Mongolians would opt into the EU market easily because they'd be inclined to join the organization ASAP).

I sincerely hope this happens one day. Logistically, it is very easy. Imagine how wonderful it would be for them and the world!

And why not move Bosnian people to lets say Turkey? There are less Bosnian ppl than Serbian, Serbia was in that part of the Europe far before Bosnia was ever created and Bosnian people existed + Why do we need so many Muslims in Europe? You can go and mingle with Turkish people, right?

Serbia never committed genocide and if you are old enough and have common sense you should know how the war started! Also lets go back to WW2 and then move Croats because they decided to join the Nazis and in those few years of WW2 killed close to million Serbs in their conc. camps.
Albania? We never had issues with Albanian only with Shiptars and for the right reason, taking someones land is in it self an act of war and if Tito listened to Rankovic and his "solution" we wouldnt have had such issue or problems with them.

So if we move all Bosnian people to Turkey Europe would be rather free of Islamic propaganda their bad influence, their rapist behavior, child molesting, wife beating and ofc pedophilia. Why do we need that kind of stuff in Europe?

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Why wouldn't I be serious about this? It makes perfect sense, really. From a utilitarian perspective, it is absolutely a "must do" thing.

If anyone wonders, one of the most likely epicenters of a next global war is probably in the Balkans, and probably because of enmity between Serbs and other people. Remember, WWI (which lead to WWII eventually) started in Bosnia due to a Serb's nationalism.

If you think that then you re incredibly retarded. Do you actually know what was Black Hand ( Crna Ruka ) and who was Gavrilo Princip? You really think that WW1 started because some guy killed one tyrant?

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And why not move Bosnian people to lets say Turkey? There are less Bosnian ppl than Serbian, Serbia was in that part of the Europe far before Bosnia was ever created and Bosnian people existed + Why do we need so many Muslims in Europe? You can go and mingle with Turkish people, right?

Serbia never committed genocide and if you are old enough and have common sense you should know how the war started! Also lets go back to WW2 and then move Croats because they decided to join the Nazis and in those few years of WW2 killed close to million Serbs in their conc. camps.
Albania? We never had issues with Albanian only with Shiptars and for the right reason, taking someones land is in it self an act of war and if Tito listened to Rankovic and his "solution" we wouldnt have had such issue or problems with them.

So if we move all Bosnian people to Turkey Europe would be rather free of Islamic propaganda their bad influence, their rapist behavior, child molesting, wife beating and ofc pedophilia. Why do we need that kind of stuff in Europe?

This is exactly why I proposed the solution in the OP. Serbs are the angriest people in the world, and they feed off of propaganda. For example, the things he mentions about "bad influence, pedophilia" etc. is so ridiculous because Bosnia is not an Arab or African country. Just because people converted to Islam doesn't mean they changed their level of civilization, lol! It's one of the safest countries in the world, for the record.

That said, the reason Serbia should move is because Serbs have many issues with the neighbours, and Bosnia doesn't. Moreover, the best place to move to is Mongolia, and Serbs would be far better off there. I mean, what would it solve if Mongolians moved to Bosnia, then Serbs declared war on them? That would be so sad for Mongolians who did nothing wrong.

And yes, Serbs started WW1. This is a historical fact. It could have started other ways, but didn't.

[Belize]

I've seen some stupid suggestions in my life. But damn does this come close to taking the cake.

I'm going to apply a large amount of Poe's Law here.

[Enthusiastic Steward]

This is interesting as a thought exercise. This is impractical as a real thing that should happen.

[markos82]

There is not as good a trading partner for Croats as there is for Serbs. Croats really want to be Western, Serbs don't. Croats have a different religion to Russians, and Serb's don't. It's all about who would benefit the most being located to the best area possible (which is Mongolia), both for them and for the other party.

I think Serbs should relocate to Mongolia and vice versa.

Then pack your bags and move to Turkey, there is no place for Islam in Europe! Orthodox and Catholic all belong to the same religion - Christianity, Islam doesnt belong to anything. So talking about religion you should be the one to move...

Russian is very similar to Serbian except phonetically (Serbian sounds Latin because of the Latin proximity and assimilation of Vlachs), so they would learn the language in maximum a few months.

They would have Russia and China as their neighbours, so only China would be foreign, not Russia. Additionally, they already have foreign neighbours like the Croats and Albanians, who are far worse for them than the Chinese.

You know that there is no Bosnian language? That you are using Serbian language!?
Serbian sounds Latin? You are crazy!!!

And if you Bosnian ppl move to Turkey, just move not trade places, you would be in a country is much closer to you regarding religion and view on the world.

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Then pack your bags and move to Turkey, there is no place for Islam in Europe! Orthodox and Catholic all belong to the same religion - Christianity, Islam doesnt belong to anything. So talking about religion you should be the one to move...

Then there's also no place for Christianity, which wasn't the religion of the Europeans and especially not Slavs.

You know that there is no Bosnian language? That you are using Serbian language!?
Serbian sounds Latin? You are crazy!!!

And if you Bosnian ppl move to Turkey, just move not trade places, you would be in a country is much closer to you regarding religion and view on the world.

Yes, it sounds Latin. Why do South Slavic languages sound so different to West and East types, like Russian and Polish? Because they weren't influenced by Latin speakers.

No, we won't move to Turkey because that doesn't solve the problem with SERBS having ISSUES with their neighbours at all. The problem must relocate, not the non-issue... lol.

[markos82]

This is exactly why I proposed the solution in the OP. Serbs are the angriest people in the world, and they feed off of propaganda. For example, the things he mentions about "bad influence, pedophilia" etc. is so ridiculous because Bosnia is not an Arab or African country. Just because people converted to Islam doesn't mean they changed their level of civilization, lol! It's one of the safest countries in the world, for the record.

That said, the reason Serbia should move is because Serbs have many issues with the neighbours, and Bosnia doesn't. Moreover, the best place to move to is Mongolia, and Serbs would be far better off there. I mean, what would it solve if Mongolians moved to Bosnia, then Serbs declared war on them? That would be so sad for Mongolians who did nothing wrong.

And yes, Serbs started WW1. This is a historical fact. It could have started other ways, but didn't.

Serbs are the angriest people? You are crazy, hell your holy book says it is ok to kill people of different religions not the Bible. You breed your kids to hate Serbs and then send them to get their education here free of a charge ( if they manage to get in a college ).
You converted because you were scared when Turks invaded Europe so you are basically Serbs that got their panties wet and sold their souls to stay alive and in that time ( while turks were at the gates of Vienna ) you killed more Serbs ( your relatives ) than anyone else.

Bosnia doesn't? You are the one who has issues with Serbia not the other way around.I never said move Mongolians to Bosnia, I just said move Bosnians to Turkey, they are now brothers if you look at the religion.

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Also, this is how much land you would get in Mongolia:



I mean, do you need more than that? You could swallow your sworn enemies (France, Germany, et al) and still have space left...

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Serbs are the angriest people? You are crazy, hell your holy book says it is ok to kill people of different religions not the Bible. Your breed your kids to hate Serbs and then send them to get their education here free of a charge ( if they manage to get in a college ).
You converted because you were scared when Turks invaded Europe so you are basically Serbs that got their panties went and sold their souls to stay alive and in that time ( while turks were at the gates of Vienna ) you killed more Serbs ( your relatives ) than anyone else.

Bosnia doesn't? You are the one who has issues with Serbia not the other way around.I never said move Mongolians to Bosnia, I just said move Bosnians to Turkey, they are now brothers if you look at the religion.

Why wouldn't those people convert to a similar faith for less taxes and more privileges? That's just very well executed.

Yep, Serbs are very angry. There are not any angrier people in the world. Just see your response - it's everyone against you, it's everyone lying about you, everyone making stories up about you starting WW1, you committing genocide... lol. You are so important and legendary that we must lie about you in order to defeat you.

I think you belong to Mongolia for sure.

[markos82]

Then there's also no place for Christianity, which wasn't the religion of the Europeans and especially not Slavs.


Yes, it sounds Latin. Why do South Slavic languages sound so different to West and East types, like Russian and Polish? Because they weren't influenced by Latin speakers.

No, we won't move to Turkey because that doesn't solve the problem with SERBS having ISSUES with their neighbours at all. The problem must relocate, not the non-issue... lol.

Slavs took Christianity before Bosnians took Islam, in fact Bosnians were Christians up to the 13th century.

Serbian has nothing to do with Latin, hell Serbians use Cyrillic Alphabet, you use Serbian, with some modifications, different accent and latin alphabet.

But you are the problem, ppl like you in fact!

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Slavs took Christianity before Bosnians took Islam, in fact Bosnians were Christians up to the 13th century.

Serbian has nothing to do with Latin, hell Serbians use Cyrillic Alphabet, you use Serbian, with some modifications, different accent and latin alphabet.

But you are the problem, ppl like you in fact!

So? Neither Christianity nor Islam are the original religions of the Slavs or other Europeans at all. I mean, Slavs were pagans who had countless deities and whatnot. Modern Slavs literally have nothing spiritually in common with old Slavs.

Lol, imagine a people going from paganism to ORTHODOX Christianity in days and now a few centuries later, they say Christianity is their true religion but Islam is so foreign... LOL!

Serbian sounds Latin/Italian/Romance. That's a fact. Listen to Latin stuff on YouTube then listen to your language.

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Serbian sounds Latin/Italian/Romance. That's a fact. Listen to Latin stuff on YouTube then listen to your language.

Look how angry the Serb was that I said his (and mine) language "sounds" Latin. I mean, who would be angry at that? Seriously? Latin is beautiful. When it influenced other languages (e.g., English) it made them much more pleasant to the ears. Why all the anger? Because Serbs are special and need to be angry. Anger is their water.

That is why it is best for them and Europe that they move to Mongolia, and Mongolians move to Serbia.

[markos82]

Why wouldn't those people convert to a similar faith for less taxes and more privileges? That's just very well executed.

Yep, Serbs are very angry. There are not any angrier people in the world. Just see your response - it's everyone against you, it's everyone lying about you, everyone making stories up about you starting WW1, you committing genocide... lol. You are so important and legendary that we must lie about you in order to defeat you.

I think you belong to Mongolia for sure.

And how is it similar religion/faith when you were Christians back then!? Or you forgot your history?


What are you on about? Tell me where did you got your education? Did you study in Serbia? If you did I bet it was the town on my photo or Belgrade. Oh and i bet you got a place to stay for free ( dorm ) and got in college for free. I'm I right?
Tell me do Bosnian students have same rights in Serbia as Serbians, regarding work, education, health benefits...? Come on, dont be shy!?

We never stated a WW1, if you believe that then you are retarded for sure. Read some history, learn who Princip was and what kind of organization was Black hand and their origins and the real reason why Princip killed Archduke Ferdinand.

[Shibito]

So? Neither Christianity nor Islam are the original religions of the Slavs or other Europeans at all. I mean, Slavs were pagans who had countless deities and whatnot. Modern Slavs literally have nothing spiritually in common with old Slavs.

Lol, imagine a people going from paganism to ORTHODOX Christianity in days and now a few centuries later, they say Christianity is their true religion but Islam is so foreign... LOL!

Serbian sounds Latin/Italian/Romance. That's a fact. Listen to Latin stuff on YouTube then listen to your language.

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Look how angry the Serb was that I said his (and mine) language "sounds" Latin. I mean, who would be angry at that? Seriously? Latin is beautiful. When it influenced other languages (e.g., English) it made them much more pleasant to the ears. Why all the anger? Because Serbs are special and need to be angry. Anger is their water.

That is why it is best for them and Europe that they move to Mongolia, and Mongolians move to Serbia.

Seriously are you only on this forum to be a jerk?

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And how is it similar religion/faith when you were Christians back then!? Or you forgot your history?


What are you on about? Tell me where did you got your education? Did you study in Serbia? If you did I bet it was the town on my photo or Belgrade. Oh and i bet you got a place to stay for free ( dorm ) and got in college for free. I'm I right?
Tell me do Bosnian students have same rights in Serbia as Serbians, regarding work, education, health benefits...? Come on, dont be shy!?

We never stated a WW1, if you believe that then you are retarded for sure. Read some history, learn who Princip was and what kind of organization was Black hand and their origins and the real reason why Princip killed Archduke Ferdinand.

The religion was actually a very disorganized and loosely interpreted form of Christianity. Because Bosnia is mountainous, people were better able to resist the influence of the Catholic church and not join their hierarchy, so they never accepted hardcore Christianity as their faith. So, during the occupation, they took Islam as their faith because it gave them privileges. That's so simple.

No, I have never been to Serbia.

Serbs started WW1. Not ALL Serbs, but still Serbs. In other words, they also are the cause of WW2.

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Seriously are you only on this forum to be a jerk?

I have been very kind to people generally, so no.

It isn't me that accuses a people of pedophilia and whatever. I am just stating facts (history) and saying that for utilitarian purposes, Serbs and Mongolians should change locations.

[Shibito]

The religion was actually a very disorganized and loosely interpreted form of Christianity. Because Bosnia is mountainous, people were better able to resist the influence of the Catholic church and not join their hierarchy, so they never accepted hardcore Christianity as their faith. So, during the occupation, they took Islam as their faith because it gave them privileges. That's so simple.

No, I have never been to Serbia.

Serbs started WW1. Not ALL Serbs, but still Serbs. In other words, they also are the cause of WW2.

And here you said you didnt hate serbs but all i see is hatred for them in you lol.

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And here you said you didnt hate serbs but all i see is hatred for them in you lol.

No, I'm stating facts. I said they did things in the past that is historically true to the point you could erase all the documents on it in every shape and form and still make a good case for them. I also said Serbs are angry, which this guy has made evident. I mean, again, who gets angry when hearing their language sounds like Latin?

Also, check out Serb behaviour on the Internet. They think they are true Aryan descendants, and post "remove kebab!!!" everywhere to feel superior. Their inferiority complex is so strong, it is very sad to witness.

[markos82]

So? Neither Christianity nor Islam are the original religions of the Slavs or other Europeans at all. I mean, Slavs were pagans who had countless deities and whatnot. Modern Slavs literally have nothing spiritually in common with old Slavs.

Lol, imagine a people going from paganism to ORTHODOX Christianity in days and now a few centuries later, they say Christianity is their true religion but Islam is so foreign... LOL!

Serbian sounds Latin/Italian/Romance. That's a fact. Listen to Latin stuff on YouTube then listen to your language.

Serbia started to take Christianity in 9th century and you took Islam centuries later, like 5 or so, AFTER CHRISTIANITY.
You don't have to lecture me about my religion and my country ( even thou I am an atheist ). I know well about religion of slavs and their similarities to religion of old Rome.

It doesn't I for one speak and understand Italian to some degree so no it is not the same. Serbian language isnt melodic as Italian/Latin and I had latin for 2 years in high school and I still remember it well.

Look how angry the Serb was that I said his (and mine) language "sounds" Latin. I mean, who would be angry at that? Seriously? Latin is beautiful. When it influenced other languages (e.g., English) it made them much more pleasant to the ears. Why all the anger? Because Serbs are special and need to be angry. Anger is their water.

That is why it is best for them and Europe that they move to Mongolia, and Mongolians move to Serbia.

because you are talking BS! yes Serbian has many Latin words but so does so many languages in the world because of the Roman empire influence. Do you know how many Roman kings were born on, lets say current Serbia soil?

[markos82]

The religion was actually a very disorganized and loosely interpreted form of Christianity. Because Bosnia is mountainous, people were better able to resist the influence of the Catholic church and not join their hierarchy, so they never accepted hardcore Christianity as their faith. So, during the occupation, they took Islam as their faith because it gave them privileges. That's so simple.

No, I have never been to Serbia.

Serbs started WW1. Not ALL Serbs, but still Serbs. In other words, they also are the cause of WW2.

And they managed to accept Islam in such a short amount of time!?

You do know that Serbia was the last, lets say "protector" of the Europe from an invading Ottoman horde. They Serbs took 1st effort to push them back to now Turkey?!

Somehow I doubt that you never been to Serbia

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Serbia started to take Christianity in 9th century and you took Islam centuries later, like 5 or so, AFTER CHRISTIANITY.
You don't have to lecture me about my religion and my country ( even thou I am an atheist ). I know well about religion of slavs and their similarities to religion of old Rome.

Again, so? How does that make Islam less acceptable in Europe and especially the Slavic lands therein? Just because Christianity was forced upon people first doesn't mean we should welcome it but consider Islam so unacceptable. As I said, Slavs originally had totally different beliefs.

It doesn't I for one speak and understand Italian to some degree so no it is not the same. Serbian language isnt melodic as Italian/Latin and I had latin for 2 years in high school and I still remember it well.





because you are talking BS! yes Serbian has many Latin words but so does so many languages in the world because of the Roman empire influence. Do you know how many Roman kings were born on, lets say current Serbia soil?

It isn't the same but it SOUNDS VERY SIMILAR. Slavs came to Balkans and were a MINORITY there who ASSIMILATED original Balkan inhabitants (like the Vlachs) and therefore were influenced by their ACCENTS.

Did you know Russian weekdays are almost identical to Serbian/Bosnian weekdays? Nope. You know why? Because every time you heard a Russian say Monday, you didn't understand a freaking thing because his language didn't experience the same external influences as yours. Yours happened to be mostly influenced (phonetically, by sound) by LATIN.

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And they managed to accept Islam in such a short amount of time!?

Yeah. Again - they already believed in God, Jesus, same teachings as Islam (charity, abstain from premarital sex, and so much else), weren't connected to the Vatican, and were granted privileges like lower taxes, cheaper property, higher political seats... what's not to like?