U.S. Presidential Election Day Megathread [Official]

[Stonecloak]

Look folks, I know everyone is up in arms on this election. Hell my own state is trying the Seccession nonsense, same as Texas did in 2008. We might all disagree on about everything, but I would remind everyone of Hillary's slogan. Stronger together. Just accept that Trump won, the same way Obama won. Fairly and legitimately. The shoe may be on the other foot now, but I for one wont attack anyone who supported Hillary. Instead I suggest we all come together and figure out how exactly to move on at this point, as clearly the world did not end, and lets all work to make this country something better which employs ideas from both sides.

Rioting and looting isn't going to win any arguments, nor is calling for secession or whatever other crackpot scheme is being espoused. A lot of people have called Conservatives and Republicans X name, and there has been extreme bias from certain mods on these forums, when people defended themselves from such attacks. Most people know them, but that's not what I'm writing about. I merely suggest that we should pause, rewind, look in the mirror and remember we're all human beings, all of whom deserve equal respect and time to make their case. We've argued, we've fought, we've even insulted each-other viciously at times. Now I think it's time we all reflect on that and ask if that's the sort of people we are. I don't think we as Americans, regardless of party are that. So lets cut the character assassinations out, grow up and discuss things. This idea that "You disagree with me, therefore you need to shut up!" is a detestable mentality on the internet that needs to be excised from our country. Do you really want your children to espouse it too?

What do you all think Donald Trump should do in his first 100 days?
What do you think Melania Trump should do in her campaign against Cyber-Bullying / Trolling?

Lets talk, but keep it civil. I am genuinely curious what folks think.

Well said, and I share the same view, but it's like trying to teach quantum mechanics to a five year old, or trying to remove die from water. There's a machine going on here and it's in full affect.

[NED funded]

Unfortunately for a lot of those Rust Belt workers, there's no solving their problems. The only reason they enjoyed the living standards they did during the industrial boom was because a huge chunk of the world's population was ruled by colonial administrations that kept those areas permanently underdeveloped and hence no threat to Western workers. Hence, industrialized economies were able to obtain cheap raw materials while selling finished goods at whatever prices they wanted to charge which allowed workers to take home a decent wage on occasion. There's no going back to that gravy train - unless our workers' greater productivity justifies a much higher wage than outsourced labor, there's no way we can keep our exports competitive enough to actually bring jobs back home.

I posted this earlier:

This is an interesting paper (it's still on work) that explores the actual effects of NAFTA over the rust belt. It seems that NAFTA is being used as an scapegoat this time.

Summary of the paper: the rust belt died because it failed to innovate, which is required to sustain growth. Companies didn't innovate due to unions and lack of competition. On the labor side, companies must spend money to innovate up front, but the powerful union would capture enough of the gains to make it unprofitable. On the output side, lack of competition meant the companies didn't have to innovate to maintain its market share. With reasonable parameter values, the model captures about 2/3 of the decline in manufacturing along with the feature of the slow decline.

Doesn't really surprise anyone and if it does get published it will just confirm priors.

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What do you all think President Donald Trump should do in his first 100 days?
What do you think First Lady, Melania Trump should do in her campaign against Cyber-Bullying / Trolling?

Lets talk, but keep it civil. I am genuinely curious what folks think.

He already talked about what he plans to do in his first 100 days. (http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451...first-100-days)
The second thing is kinda ironic IMO.

[Wells]

I said only what every media outlet, institution and media source said.

lol. Your stance is usually whatever is most convenient to your current whining.

Fuck you people said it was impossible for Trump to win.

I never said that. Let's keep this to people who are actually real individuals in the conversation.

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Elaborate and Define? That's an awful lot in a few words. What sort?

As in, he's demonstrated a seriously lacking understanding of basic governmental functions, terms, and policies.

A man who doesn't understand the nuclear triad, or what powers a single Senator has is a man who shouldn't be elected. But as he's elected, he should be working to rectify his serious personal failures.

[Stonecloak]

I posted this earlier:


Doesn't really surprise anyone and if it does get published it will just confirm priors.

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He already talked about what he plans to do in his first 100 days. (http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451...first-100-days)
The second thing is kinda ironic IMO.

This is actually interesting, and may be a result of our education system. We cannot teach creation, or innovation. They occur in environments that allow it, but most education institutions snuff out innovation, and this has happened in businesses as well. Imagination is also snuffed out of young people in favor of certain ideologies. It's interesting, and the problem may be deeper that what appears on the surface.

[starlord]

I am sure the GOP appreciates that you Dems will not learn a God damned thing from this election.

and what pray tell should the dems do. start screaming about mexicans and gays? its a surefire way to win over rural america.
this election has played out over and over again already in red states. the repub candidate appeals to religion and hatred, then quietly screws over the working class while blaming liberals giving all the money to minorities.

the dems mistake was not in not trying to appeal to these voters. it was alienating people who supported bernie, cooling their base toward them, and pushing an uncharismatic candidate.

[The Penguin]

Well said, and I share the same view, but it's like trying to teach quantum mechanics to a five year old, or trying to remove die from water. There's a machine going on here and it's in full affect.

Well then I reckon it's up to us Stonecloak to be sand in the gears, because this is a machine that I think any reasonably minded person should work to shut down. I mean I did think long and hard about writing a gloat post and mailing a rather sharp response to a couple mods who've by my estimates been very unfair to Conservatives over the years, while giving a complete pass to the other side. After eight years of such assaults, I won't deny I was tempted to drop to that level..

But I think I'll take a higher road, and confine myself from here on to Issues, not insults. Sure I got the election result I wanted, but that doesn't mean I should be rotten to someone like say Espe or Themis because they say X or Y. That isn't going to solve anything at this point, only create further issues and problems for everyone.

What sort of remedial civics? Does this tie to education reform in any way?

Edit:

As in, he's demonstrated a seriously lacking understanding of basic governmental functions, terms, and policies.

A man who doesn't understand the nuclear triad, or what powers a single Senator has is a man who shouldn't be elected. But as he's elected, he should be working to rectify his serious personal failures.

I agree with you to an extent. I think his lack of knowledge can be quickly replaced with help understanding such matters. But you are right on the fact that he is definitely going to need help in understanding these concepts. I'm hoping he draws in people from the Democrat Party, as well as the Republican Party to coalesce some sort of unity Government that pools everyone's experiences and talents.

One thing I liked about Trump was how he said he would bring in the best people in the business for assistance. If he does this with Politicians also, we might see a real meeting of minds which we've needed for a long time.

Truthfully the thing that really always turned me off with Obama, and which I was pleased to see a reversal on was the concept that he had a pen and a phone, and to hell with what the other party said or wanted. He was going to do X. That felt like disenfranchising 1/2 of the Country who wasn't sold on him even before his election.

I guess all I can say is watch and wait on that. I don't have the DeLorean, so I can't tell the future. I do however feel like with how Hillary and Obama spoke, as did Trump.. maybe we'll get through all of this together yet.

I posted this earlier:


Doesn't really surprise anyone and if it does get published it will just confirm priors.

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He already talked about what he plans to do in his first 100 days. (http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451...first-100-days)
The second thing is kinda ironic IMO.

It is ironic, but I think (correct me if wrong) didn't Monica Lewinsky try to start a similar campaign several years back called #HereweGo or something? I mean I think most would agree, CyberBullying is becoming a serious issue with how the Internet exploded the last 20 years. I'm prolly one of the last generations coming up who remembers what it was like before it existed.

I dunno, I just feel like when someone says "Go kill yourself" to some teenager and they go out and do so, there should be some kind of consequences and right now it's too easy for such people to hide behind a smoke-screen of anonymity and do whatever the heck they want to.

[Macaquerie]

I posted this earlier:

Doesn't really surprise anyone and if it does get published it will just confirm priors.

It's just hard for a lot of the white working class to accept that what they believed to be normal was actually just a temporary and unsustainable period of prosperity where every level of government pretty much pulled out all the stops to make sure that they were well taken care of, until it was simply no longer feasible in the face of mounting competition from third world labor. Our global reach and influence is proportionally much less than it was during the post war period, so we couldn't go back to the glory days no matter how hard we tried, if the working class wants to better their lot it's up to them to make it happen now.

This is actually interesting, and may be a result of our education system. We cannot teach creation, or innovation. They occur in environments that allow it, but most education institutions snuff out innovation, and this has happened in businesses as well. Imagination is also snuffed out of young people in favor of certain ideologies. It's interesting, and the problem may be deeper that what appears on the surface.

Ultimately it's because we teach people that just by virtue of being American, the belong to some kind of special group and hence are entitled to all sorts of opportunities in life that aren't available anywhere else. Not only is this a terrible message to send to young people, it's also becoming increasingly untrue, as our complacency slowly erodes every advantage we once enjoyed.

[Zomis]

If Trump isn't actually going to do any of the things he said he would do, WHY THE HELL DID YOU VOTE FOR HIM?

You can predict the future? What's Tomorrow's lotto numbers?

[May90]

and what pray tell should the dems do. start screaming about mexicans and gays? its a surefire way to win over rural america.
this election has played out over and over again already in red states. the repub candidate appeals to religion and hatred, then quietly screws over the working class while blaming liberals giving all the money to minorities.

the dems mistake was not in not trying to appeal to these voters. it was alienating people who supported bernie, cooling their base toward them, and pushing an uncharismatic candidate.

I think Democrats made two mistakes: first, they underestimated Trump, thinking he would lose to, pretty much, any candidate - and, following from it, second, they nominated Hillary, while polls showed that Bernie would absolutely crush Trump, while with Hillary it wasn't so certain.

That's good. If Bernie runs next time, right when Trump's actions start seriously frustrating the population, he will destroy this guy, and, while I do not exactly spprove of his minor populism, I think the country might get back on track.

[alexw]

I said only what every media outlet, institution and media source said. Fuck you people said it was impossible for Trump to win. Even though I would routinely remind you guys he had a pretty good shot and spell out my reasons.

No excuses. You spent months endlessly attacking the democratic candidate. By doing that you helped Trump win. Own it.

[Cthulhu 2020]

I don't think Trump ever vowed to keep establishment people off his cabinet completely.



Do I need to tediously point out that you're actually the one playing dumb?

Oh the irony...

Trump runs on a platform of being appalled at Hillary's connections to wall street and banks. His backers even pointed it out all the time. Now you guys are playing dumb and going BUH BUH BUH HILLARY!!!!!!!! in response to Trump selling positions on his cabinet. How utterly predictable. 6 months from now when Hillary is in the past, and Trump has sold everyone out, what is the excuse going to be then?

[Anevers]

Look folks, I know everyone is up in arms on this election. Hell my own state is trying the Seccession nonsense, same as Texas did in 2008. We might all disagree on about everything, but I would remind everyone of Hillary's slogan. Stronger together. Just accept that Trump won, the same way Obama won. Fairly and legitimately. The shoe may be on the other foot now, but I for one wont attack anyone who supported Hillary. Instead I suggest we all come together and figure out how exactly to move on at this point, as clearly the world did not end, and lets all work to make this country something better which employs ideas from both sides.

Rioting and looting isn't going to win any arguments, nor is calling for secession or whatever other crackpot scheme is being espoused. A lot of people have called Conservatives and Republicans X name, and there has been extreme bias from certain mods on these forums, when people defended themselves from such attacks. Most people know them, but that's not what I'm writing about. I merely suggest that we should pause, rewind, look in the mirror and remember we're all human beings, all of whom deserve equal respect and time to make their case.

We've argued, we've fought, we've even insulted each-other viciously at times. Now I think it's time we all reflect on that and ask if that's the sort of people we are. I don't think we as Americans, regardless of party are that. So lets cut the character assassinations out, grow up and discuss things. This idea that "You disagree with me, therefore you need to shut up!" is a detestable mentality on the internet that needs to be excised from our country. Do you really want your children to espouse it too?

What do you all think President Donald Trump should do in his first 100 days?
What do you think First Lady, Melania Trump should do in her campaign against Cyber-Bullying / Trolling?

Lets talk, but keep it civil. I am genuinely curious what folks think.

Holy shit who are you and what did you do with The Penguin?

First thing Trump and the Republicans need to do is reach across the aisle, the partisan bullshit is poison and it needs to stop.
Half the country is utterly terrified and lost. They are scared what this means for them, and I don't know if any election previously has terrified half the country as much as this one. If they are minorities (whether they are so because of their skin color, religion, or sexuality) they are afraid they will be attacked, and there are already issues popping up where Trump supporters are terrorizing people. Trump needs to reign them in and try to get the healing process going.

People are scared that the ACA will be gutted and they will be left without insurance and many people with preexisting conditions are dependent on the ACA to be able to afford or even get coverage, Trump and Congress will need to put a plan together and have it ready to go if they go through with repealing the ACA. I lost my job this year and despite my best efforts I haven't been fortunate enough to find employment yet, and if it wasn't for the ACA I wouldn't have access to the meds I need to live. To be honest I'm terrified what this means for me and other people like me.

[Chain Chungus]

A partial list of Trump endorsements for boycotting and shaming:

Notable individuals
Commentators, writers and columnists

Scott Adams, cartoonist, creator of Dilbert[452]
Conrad Black,[a] Canadian-born British former newspaper publisher, convicted fraudster, author and member of the House of Lords [453]
Eric Bolling, commentator, co-host of The Five and Cashin' In on Fox News[454]
Floyd Brown, author, speaker, and media commentator[12]
Ann Coulter,[a] political commentator and writer[455]
Dinesh D'Souza, political commentator, author, and filmmaker[456]
Vox Day, publisher, activist, science fiction writer, journalist, musician, and video game designer[457]
Bo Dietl, former NYPD detective and Fox News commentator[458]
Olavo de Carvalho, Brazilian essayist whose interests include historical philosophy, the history of revolutionary movements, the traditionalist school and comparative religion[459]
Lou Dobbs,[a] television personality, author, radio host and host of Lou Dobbs Tonight on Fox Business[460]
Matt Drudge, political commentator, founder and editor of The Drudge Report[461]
Aleksandr Dugin,[a] Russian political scientist, author of The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia and The Fourth Political Theory, and member of the Eurasia Party[462]
Diana Furchtgott-Roth, economist[12]
Tsunehira Furuya, Japanese critic and writer[463]
Pamela Geller, political activist and commentator[464]
Callista Gingrich, co-author of Rediscovering God in America.[20]
David P. Goldman (a.k.a. "Spengler"), economist, music critic, and author[20]
Liangliang He, anchor on Hong Kong–based Mandarin and Cantonese-language broadcaster Phoenix Television[465]
Katie Hopkins, newspaper columnist and TV personality[466]
David Horowitz, conservative writer, founder and president of the David Horowitz Freedom Center, and editor of FrontPage Magazine[18]
Carol Iannone, columnist, literary critic, critic of feminism, and founding Vice President of the National Association of Scholars.[20]
Paul Johnson, journalist, historian, speechwriter and author[467]
Dmitry Kiselyov,[a] Russian journalist and head of government-owned international news agency Rossiya Segodnya[468][469]
Tomi Lahren, conservative commentator, internet personality [470]
Lawrence Kudlow, conservative commentator, economic analyst, television personality, newspaper columnist and host of the The Kudlow Report.[20]
Michael Ledeen, historian, philosopher, foreign policy analyst, and writer.[20]
David Limbaugh, conservative American political commentator and author[471]
John Lott, economist, political commentator, and gun rights advocate.[20]
Michelle Malkin, blogger, political commentator, and author[472]
Gavin McInnes,[a] writer, creative director, actor, comedian, and co-founder of Vice Media[473][474]
Eric Metaxas, author, speaker, and radio host[475]
Piers Morgan, journalist and television personality, writer for the Daily Mail[476]
Steven W. Mosher, social scientist, pro-life activist, author, and president of the Population Research Institute.[20]
Deroy Murdock, political commentor and a contributing editor with National Review Online[12]
Melanie Phillips, newspaper opinion columnist[477]
Norman Podhoretz, neoconservative pundit, former adviser to the U.S. Information Agency (1981–87), and writer for Commentary[478]
Alfred S. Regnery, lawyer, author, and former publisher[12]
Michael Scheuer,[a] former CIA intelligence officer, blogger, author, political analyst, and former Chief of the Bin Laden Issue Station[479]
Hossein Shariatmadari,[a] Iranian conservative journalist and editor-in-chief of Kayhan[480]
Roger L. Simon,[a] novelist, Academy Award-nominated screenwriter, and former CEO of PJ Media[481]
Lauren Southern, Canadian Libertarian Commentator[482]
Jared Taylor,[a] white nationalist and political writer, founder of American Renaissance magazine[483][484]
Cal Thomas, conservative syndicated columnist, pundit, author and radio commentator[485]
Daryush Valizadeh, writer and creator of the Return Of Kings website[486]
Diana West, author and columnist[487]
Milo Yiannopoulos,[a] British journalist and political commentator[488]

Business leaders

Sheldon Adelson, CEO of Las Vegas Sands[489]
Roger Ailes, former Chairman and CEO of Fox News Channel, media consultant to presidential campaigns of Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and George H. W. Bush[490]
David R. Barker, author, academic and businessman[491]
Thomas J. Barrack Jr., Founder and Chairman of Colony Capital[492]
Andrew Beal, Founder and Chairman of Beal Bank[492]
William Harrison Binnie, industrialist and investment banker, President of New Hampshire 1 Network and owner of Carlisle One Media, and Chairman of the Finance Committee for the New Hampshire Republican State Committee[493]
Ernie Boch Jr., CEO of Boch Industries[494]
Elliott Broidy, venture capitalist[495][496]
Doug Burgum, entrepreneur, philanthropist, former president of Great Plains Software, former head of Microsoft Business Solutions, chairman of the board for Atlassian, and 2016 Republican nominee for Governor of North Dakota[497]
Herman Cain, businessman and Tea Party politician (former 2000 and 2012 presidential candidate)[498]
Pete Coors, businessman and chairman of MillerCoors[499]
Jenny Craig, founder of Jenny Craig Inc.[500]
Darwin Deason, businessman and political donor[500]
Daniel R. DiMicco, former CEO of Nucor Corp[501]
Kim Dotcom, internet entrepreneur and political activist[502]
Bernie Ecclestone, Chief Executive of Formula One Group[503]
Marc Faber, Swiss investor[504]
Sean Fieler, businessman, philanthropist and conservative activist/donor[7]
Steve Feinberg, financier and co-founder and CEO of Cerberus Capital Management[501]
Kenneth Fisher, investment analyst and the founder and chairman of Fisher Investments[505]
Steve Forbes, publishing executive, Editor-in-Chief of Forbes, and business magnate (former 1996 and 2000 presidential candidate)[506]
Brian France, CEO and Chairman of NASCAR[507]
Neal B. Freeman, founder of The Blackwell Corporation, former president of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.[20]
Foster Friess, businessman and philanthropist[508]
David Green, businessman and CEO of Hobby Lobby[509]
Harold Hamm, entrepreneur and oil industry pioneer[510]
Carl Icahn, business magnate, investor, activist shareholder, philanthropist, founder and majority shareholder of Icahn Enterprises and Chairman of Federal-Mogul[511][512]
Peter Kalikow, president of H. J. Kalikow & Company[513]
Robert Kiyosaki, businessman, investor, educator, motivational speaker and self-help author (authored two business books with the candidate)[514][515]
Bill Koch, businessman, sailor, and collector[516]
Shalabh Kumar, industrialist, philanthropist, and founder and head of the Republican Hindu Coalition[517]
Charles Kushner, real estate developer and co-owner of Kushner Properties[518]
Jared Kushner, co-owner of Kushner Properties, owner of The New York Observer, son-in-law of the candidate[518]
Kenneth Langone, co-founder of The Home Depot[519]
Richard LeFrak, real-estate businessman[520]
Howard Lorber, businessman, investor and CEO of Vector Group[501]
David Malpass, founder and president of Encima Global LLC, Deputy Assistant Treasury Secretary under President Ronald Reagan, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under President George H. W. Bush[501]
Doug Manchester, businessman, real estate developer, and former newspaper publisher[521]
Bernard Marcus, businessman, philanthropist, co-founder and former CEO of The Home Depot[522]
Linda McMahon, former President and CEO of WWE and Republican nominee for Senate from Connecticut in 2010 and 2012[523]
Robert Mercer, computer scientist and co-CEO of Renaissance Technologies[524]
Larry Mizel, chairman and CEO of MDC Holdings[525]
Steven Mnuchin, banker, political fundraiser, CEO of Dune Capital Management and Finance Chair of the Donald Trump 2016 presidential campaign[501]
Stephen Moore, economic writer, policy analyst, co-founder and former president of the Club for Growth, former member of the Wall Street Journal editorial board, and former chief economist for The Heritage Foundation[501]
Rupert Murdoch, media mogul, CEO of Fox News[526]
Robert E. Murray, CEO of Murray Energy Corporation[527]
Terry Neese, founder of Terry Neese Personnel Services and the Institute for the Economic Empowerment of Women[491]
John Paulson, hedge fund manager and president of Paulson & Co.[501]
Joe Ricketts, founder, former CEO and former chairman of TD Ameritrade[528]
Wayne Allyn Root, businessman, politician, television and radio personality (Libertarian Party nominee for Vice President in 2008)[529]
Wilbur Ross, investor, owner of WL Ross & Co., owner of International Steel Group, vice chairman of Bank of Cyprus[530]
Steven Roth, real estate investor and CEO of Vornado Realty Trust[501]
Phil Ruffin, businessman and partner of Trump Hotel Las Vegas[531]
Anthony Scaramucci, financier, entrepreneur, author, founder and a co-managing partner of SkyBridge Capital, and host of Wall Street Week on Fox Business[532]
Martin Selig, founder and owner of Martin Selig Real Estate[505]
German Sterligov, Russian businessman and environmentalist.[533]
Paul Teutul Sr., Co. founder of Orange County Choppers[534]
Peter Thiel, entrepreneur, venture capitalist, hedge fund manager, co-founder of PayPal, board member of Facebook, libertarian, and transhumanist[535]
Donald Trump Jr., businessman, son of the candidate[536]
Eric Trump, businessman and philanthropist, son of the candidate[537]
Ivanka Trump, businesswoman, writer, and former model, daughter of the candidate[538]
Jack Welch, former CEO of General Electric[539]
Dana White, President of Ultimate Fighting Championship[507]
Vladimir Yakunin, Russian businessman, public figure, former president of Russian Railways, and founder and president of the World Public Forum "Dialogue of Civilizations"[540]
Richard Yuengling Jr., owner of Yuengling Brewery[541]

Celebrities
Actors and comedians

Scott Baio[625]
Stephen Baldwin[626][627]
Benjy Bronk[628]
Kimberlin Brown[629]
Gary Busey[630]
James Caan[631]
Dean Cain[632]
Kirk Cameron[633]
Robert Davi[634]
Lou Ferrigno[635]
Jenna Jameson[636]
Colby Keller[637]
Bob Levy[638]
Jerry Lewis[639]
Amy Lindsay[640]
Rich Little[641]
Brandi Love[a][642]
Dennis Miller[643]
Michael Moriarty[644]
Chuck Norris[645]
Jim Norton[646]
Joe Piscopo[647]
Randy Quaid[648]
Antonio Sabàto Jr.[649]
Greg Scarnici[650]
Kevin Sorbo[651][652]
Ann Turkel[620]
Jean-Claude Van Damme[653]
Jon Voight[654]
Fred Williamson[655]

Athletes and sports figures

Archery/Shooting

Kim Rhode[656]

Baseball

Johnny Bench[657]
George Brett[658]
Clay Buchholz[659]
Johnny Damon[660]
Paul O'Neill[660]
Jonathan Papelbon[661]
John Rocker[507]
Curt Schilling[662]

Basketball

Gene Keady[507][663]
Bob Knight[507][664]
Billy Packer[665]
Digger Phelps[507][663]
Dennis Rodman[a][507][666][667]

Boxing, mixed martial arts and pro wrestling

Adrien Broner[668]
Ted DiBiase[669]
Royce Gracie[670]
Holly Holm[671]
Don King[672]
Jerry Lawler[673]
Dutch Mantel[674]
Tito Ortiz[675]
Chael Sonnen[676]
Miesha Tate[677]
Mike Tyson[507]
Chris Weidman[678]

Football

Rocky Boiman[679]
Bobby Bowden[680]
Mike Ditka[681]
Vince Dooley[682]
Rosey Grier[683]
Lou Holtz[507]
Richie Incognito[684]
Woody Johnson[685]
Mike Leach[686]
Nick Mangold[687]
Shawne Merriman[507]
Burgess Owens[688]
Terrell Owens[689][690]
Rex Ryan[691]
Mike Shanahan[692]
Fred Smerlas[693]
Fran Tarkenton[694]
Tim Tebow[695]

Golf

John Daly[507]
Natalie Gulbis[696]
Jack Nicklaus[697]

Racing

Bill Elliott[698]
Chase Elliott[698]
Korbin Forrister[699]
Ernie Irvan[700]
Mark Martin[701]
Ryan Newman[698]
David Ragan[698]
Austin Wayne Self[702]
Kenny Wallace[703]
Michael Waltrip[704]

Media personalities and socialites

Farrah Abraham [705]
Dan Bilzerian[706]
Adam Curry[707][708]
Diamond and Silk[709]
Rachel Campos-Duffy[105]
FPSRussia[710]
Teresa Giudice[711]
Rick Harrison[712]
Jesse James[713]
Charlotte Laws[714]
Steve Malzberg[715]
Omarosa Manigault[716]
Jeanine Pirro[717]
Phil Robertson[718]
Sadie Robertson[719]
Tila Tequila[720]
Ivana Trump[721][722]
Melania Trump[723]
Dale Winton[724]
Melissa Ann Young[725]

Singers and musicians

Pat Boone[620]
Larry Gatlin[726]
Filipp Kirkorov[727]
Loretta Lynn [728]
Wayne Newton[729]
Ted Nugent[730]
Naked Cowboy[731]
Red Steagall[4]
Young Dro[732]

See the full list here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rsements,_2016

[Wells]

I love that there's a whole category just for racing.

[Gestopft]

do, pray tell, what rights in the current first world that women do not share with men? I mean, if the feminists want to run into the 3rd world and attempt to get women's rights there I'll join them in arms, but I'm interested in the first world on this one.

In the US at least, (for reasonable feminists who aren't part of the loud, extreme fringe) the battle at this point isn't so much about rights as it is perceptions. Let me give you two examples of what I mean:

-There was a Super Bowl commercial a couple of years ago, in which young girls were asked to "kick like a girl," and they put their all into it. When teenage girls were asked the same thing, they made their attempts look weak and feeble. Obviously men have a higher strength ceiling, but feminists would like to combat the idea that doing something "like a girl" is to do it weakly. The phrase also carries the implication of the traditional expectation that girls are supposed to be delicate, not "tough."

-My wife is in school to become a dentist, and perhaps an oral surgeon, but when she tells people that she is in Dental School, the most common response is "oh, to be an assistant?" The likelihood that she would be getting asked that if she was a man is slim to none. There is still a cultural assumption/expectation that men are in higher positions of power and prestige. While it is true that men hold more of those positions, the feminist perspective to say that maybe girls shouldn't grow up with the expectation that men will be the bosses.

This is part of why the glass ceiling is important to many women.

[Deleted]

Sadly, it looks like some PoC/minorities were right to be concerned.

Hateful white Trump voters brutally attack a black teenager:

[Spunt]

A partial list of Trump endorsements for boycotting and shaming:

Notable individuals
Commentators, writers and columnists

Scott Adams, cartoonist, creator of Dilbert[452]
Conrad Black,[a] Canadian-born British former newspaper publisher, convicted fraudster, author and member of the House of Lords [453]
Eric Bolling, commentator, co-host of The Five and Cashin' In on Fox News[454]
Floyd Brown, author, speaker, and media commentator[12]
Ann Coulter,[a] political commentator and writer[455]
Dinesh D'Souza, political commentator, author, and filmmaker[456]
Vox Day, publisher, activist, science fiction writer, journalist, musician, and video game designer[457]
Bo Dietl, former NYPD detective and Fox News commentator[458]
Olavo de Carvalho, Brazilian essayist whose interests include historical philosophy, the history of revolutionary movements, the traditionalist school and comparative religion[459]
Lou Dobbs,[a] television personality, author, radio host and host of Lou Dobbs Tonight on Fox Business[460]
Matt Drudge, political commentator, founder and editor of The Drudge Report[461]
Aleksandr Dugin,[a] Russian political scientist, author of The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia and The Fourth Political Theory, and member of the Eurasia Party[462]
Diana Furchtgott-Roth, economist[12]
Tsunehira Furuya, Japanese critic and writer[463]
Pamela Geller, political activist and commentator[464]
Callista Gingrich, co-author of Rediscovering God in America.[20]
David P. Goldman (a.k.a. "Spengler"), economist, music critic, and author[20]
Liangliang He, anchor on Hong Kong–based Mandarin and Cantonese-language broadcaster Phoenix Television[465]
Katie Hopkins, newspaper columnist and TV personality[466]
David Horowitz, conservative writer, founder and president of the David Horowitz Freedom Center, and editor of FrontPage Magazine[18]
Carol Iannone, columnist, literary critic, critic of feminism, and founding Vice President of the National Association of Scholars.[20]
Paul Johnson, journalist, historian, speechwriter and author[467]
Dmitry Kiselyov,[a] Russian journalist and head of government-owned international news agency Rossiya Segodnya[468][469]
Tomi Lahren, conservative commentator, internet personality [470]
Lawrence Kudlow, conservative commentator, economic analyst, television personality, newspaper columnist and host of the The Kudlow Report.[20]
Michael Ledeen, historian, philosopher, foreign policy analyst, and writer.[20]
David Limbaugh, conservative American political commentator and author[471]
John Lott, economist, political commentator, and gun rights advocate.[20]
Michelle Malkin, blogger, political commentator, and author[472]
Gavin McInnes,[a] writer, creative director, actor, comedian, and co-founder of Vice Media[473][474]
Eric Metaxas, author, speaker, and radio host[475]
Piers Morgan, journalist and television personality, writer for the Daily Mail[476]
Steven W. Mosher, social scientist, pro-life activist, author, and president of the Population Research Institute.[20]
Deroy Murdock, political commentor and a contributing editor with National Review Online[12]
Melanie Phillips, newspaper opinion columnist[477]
Norman Podhoretz, neoconservative pundit, former adviser to the U.S. Information Agency (1981–87), and writer for Commentary[478]
Alfred S. Regnery, lawyer, author, and former publisher[12]
Michael Scheuer,[a] former CIA intelligence officer, blogger, author, political analyst, and former Chief of the Bin Laden Issue Station[479]
Hossein Shariatmadari,[a] Iranian conservative journalist and editor-in-chief of Kayhan[480]
Roger L. Simon,[a] novelist, Academy Award-nominated screenwriter, and former CEO of PJ Media[481]
Lauren Southern, Canadian Libertarian Commentator[482]
Jared Taylor,[a] white nationalist and political writer, founder of American Renaissance magazine[483][484]
Cal Thomas, conservative syndicated columnist, pundit, author and radio commentator[485]
Daryush Valizadeh, writer and creator of the Return Of Kings website[486]
Diana West, author and columnist[487]
Milo Yiannopoulos,[a] British journalist and political commentator[488]

Business leaders

Sheldon Adelson, CEO of Las Vegas Sands[489]
Roger Ailes, former Chairman and CEO of Fox News Channel, media consultant to presidential campaigns of Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and George H. W. Bush[490]
David R. Barker, author, academic and businessman[491]
Thomas J. Barrack Jr., Founder and Chairman of Colony Capital[492]
Andrew Beal, Founder and Chairman of Beal Bank[492]
William Harrison Binnie, industrialist and investment banker, President of New Hampshire 1 Network and owner of Carlisle One Media, and Chairman of the Finance Committee for the New Hampshire Republican State Committee[493]
Ernie Boch Jr., CEO of Boch Industries[494]
Elliott Broidy, venture capitalist[495][496]
Doug Burgum, entrepreneur, philanthropist, former president of Great Plains Software, former head of Microsoft Business Solutions, chairman of the board for Atlassian, and 2016 Republican nominee for Governor of North Dakota[497]
Herman Cain, businessman and Tea Party politician (former 2000 and 2012 presidential candidate)[498]
Pete Coors, businessman and chairman of MillerCoors[499]
Jenny Craig, founder of Jenny Craig Inc.[500]
Darwin Deason, businessman and political donor[500]
Daniel R. DiMicco, former CEO of Nucor Corp[501]
Kim Dotcom, internet entrepreneur and political activist[502]
Bernie Ecclestone, Chief Executive of Formula One Group[503]
Marc Faber, Swiss investor[504]
Sean Fieler, businessman, philanthropist and conservative activist/donor[7]
Steve Feinberg, financier and co-founder and CEO of Cerberus Capital Management[501]
Kenneth Fisher, investment analyst and the founder and chairman of Fisher Investments[505]
Steve Forbes, publishing executive, Editor-in-Chief of Forbes, and business magnate (former 1996 and 2000 presidential candidate)[506]
Brian France, CEO and Chairman of NASCAR[507]
Neal B. Freeman, founder of The Blackwell Corporation, former president of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.[20]
Foster Friess, businessman and philanthropist[508]
David Green, businessman and CEO of Hobby Lobby[509]
Harold Hamm, entrepreneur and oil industry pioneer[510]
Carl Icahn, business magnate, investor, activist shareholder, philanthropist, founder and majority shareholder of Icahn Enterprises and Chairman of Federal-Mogul[511][512]
Peter Kalikow, president of H. J. Kalikow & Company[513]
Robert Kiyosaki, businessman, investor, educator, motivational speaker and self-help author (authored two business books with the candidate)[514][515]
Bill Koch, businessman, sailor, and collector[516]
Shalabh Kumar, industrialist, philanthropist, and founder and head of the Republican Hindu Coalition[517]
Charles Kushner, real estate developer and co-owner of Kushner Properties[518]
Jared Kushner, co-owner of Kushner Properties, owner of The New York Observer, son-in-law of the candidate[518]
Kenneth Langone, co-founder of The Home Depot[519]
Richard LeFrak, real-estate businessman[520]
Howard Lorber, businessman, investor and CEO of Vector Group[501]
David Malpass, founder and president of Encima Global LLC, Deputy Assistant Treasury Secretary under President Ronald Reagan, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under President George H. W. Bush[501]
Doug Manchester, businessman, real estate developer, and former newspaper publisher[521]
Bernard Marcus, businessman, philanthropist, co-founder and former CEO of The Home Depot[522]
Linda McMahon, former President and CEO of WWE and Republican nominee for Senate from Connecticut in 2010 and 2012[523]
Robert Mercer, computer scientist and co-CEO of Renaissance Technologies[524]
Larry Mizel, chairman and CEO of MDC Holdings[525]
Steven Mnuchin, banker, political fundraiser, CEO of Dune Capital Management and Finance Chair of the Donald Trump 2016 presidential campaign[501]
Stephen Moore, economic writer, policy analyst, co-founder and former president of the Club for Growth, former member of the Wall Street Journal editorial board, and former chief economist for The Heritage Foundation[501]
Rupert Murdoch, media mogul, CEO of Fox News[526]
Robert E. Murray, CEO of Murray Energy Corporation[527]
Terry Neese, founder of Terry Neese Personnel Services and the Institute for the Economic Empowerment of Women[491]
John Paulson, hedge fund manager and president of Paulson & Co.[501]
Joe Ricketts, founder, former CEO and former chairman of TD Ameritrade[528]
Wayne Allyn Root, businessman, politician, television and radio personality (Libertarian Party nominee for Vice President in 2008)[529]
Wilbur Ross, investor, owner of WL Ross & Co., owner of International Steel Group, vice chairman of Bank of Cyprus[530]
Steven Roth, real estate investor and CEO of Vornado Realty Trust[501]
Phil Ruffin, businessman and partner of Trump Hotel Las Vegas[531]
Anthony Scaramucci, financier, entrepreneur, author, founder and a co-managing partner of SkyBridge Capital, and host of Wall Street Week on Fox Business[532]
Martin Selig, founder and owner of Martin Selig Real Estate[505]
German Sterligov, Russian businessman and environmentalist.[533]
Paul Teutul Sr., Co. founder of Orange County Choppers[534]
Peter Thiel, entrepreneur, venture capitalist, hedge fund manager, co-founder of PayPal, board member of Facebook, libertarian, and transhumanist[535]
Donald Trump Jr., businessman, son of the candidate[536]
Eric Trump, businessman and philanthropist, son of the candidate[537]
Ivanka Trump, businesswoman, writer, and former model, daughter of the candidate[538]
Jack Welch, former CEO of General Electric[539]
Dana White, President of Ultimate Fighting Championship[507]
Vladimir Yakunin, Russian businessman, public figure, former president of Russian Railways, and founder and president of the World Public Forum "Dialogue of Civilizations"[540]
Richard Yuengling Jr., owner of Yuengling Brewery[541]

Celebrities
Actors and comedians

Scott Baio[625]
Stephen Baldwin[626][627]
Benjy Bronk[628]
Kimberlin Brown[629]
Gary Busey[630]
James Caan[631]
Dean Cain[632]
Kirk Cameron[633]
Robert Davi[634]
Lou Ferrigno[635]
Jenna Jameson[636]
Colby Keller[637]
Bob Levy[638]
Jerry Lewis[639]
Amy Lindsay[640]
Rich Little[641]
Brandi Love[a][642]
Dennis Miller[643]
Michael Moriarty[644]
Chuck Norris[645]
Jim Norton[646]
Joe Piscopo[647]
Randy Quaid[648]
Antonio Sabàto Jr.[649]
Greg Scarnici[650]
Kevin Sorbo[651][652]
Ann Turkel[620]
Jean-Claude Van Damme[653]
Jon Voight[654]
Fred Williamson[655]

Athletes and sports figures

Archery/Shooting

Kim Rhode[656]

Baseball

Johnny Bench[657]
George Brett[658]
Clay Buchholz[659]
Johnny Damon[660]
Paul O'Neill[660]
Jonathan Papelbon[661]
John Rocker[507]
Curt Schilling[662]

Basketball

Gene Keady[507][663]
Bob Knight[507][664]
Billy Packer[665]
Digger Phelps[507][663]
Dennis Rodman[a][507][666][667]

Boxing, mixed martial arts and pro wrestling

Adrien Broner[668]
Ted DiBiase[669]
Royce Gracie[670]
Holly Holm[671]
Don King[672]
Jerry Lawler[673]
Dutch Mantel[674]
Tito Ortiz[675]
Chael Sonnen[676]
Miesha Tate[677]
Mike Tyson[507]
Chris Weidman[678]

Football

Rocky Boiman[679]
Bobby Bowden[680]
Mike Ditka[681]
Vince Dooley[682]
Rosey Grier[683]
Lou Holtz[507]
Richie Incognito[684]
Woody Johnson[685]
Mike Leach[686]
Nick Mangold[687]
Shawne Merriman[507]
Burgess Owens[688]
Terrell Owens[689][690]
Rex Ryan[691]
Mike Shanahan[692]
Fred Smerlas[693]
Fran Tarkenton[694]
Tim Tebow[695]

Golf

John Daly[507]
Natalie Gulbis[696]
Jack Nicklaus[697]

Racing

Bill Elliott[698]
Chase Elliott[698]
Korbin Forrister[699]
Ernie Irvan[700]
Mark Martin[701]
Ryan Newman[698]
David Ragan[698]
Austin Wayne Self[702]
Kenny Wallace[703]
Michael Waltrip[704]

Media personalities and socialites

Farrah Abraham [705]
Dan Bilzerian[706]
Adam Curry[707][708]
Diamond and Silk[709]
Rachel Campos-Duffy[105]
FPSRussia[710]
Teresa Giudice[711]
Rick Harrison[712]
Jesse James[713]
Charlotte Laws[714]
Steve Malzberg[715]
Omarosa Manigault[716]
Jeanine Pirro[717]
Phil Robertson[718]
Sadie Robertson[719]
Tila Tequila[720]
Ivana Trump[721][722]
Melania Trump[723]
Dale Winton[724]
Melissa Ann Young[725]

Singers and musicians

Pat Boone[620]
Larry Gatlin[726]
Filipp Kirkorov[727]
Loretta Lynn [728]
Wayne Newton[729]
Ted Nugent[730]
Naked Cowboy[731]
Red Steagall[4]
Young Dro[732]

See the full list here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rsements,_2016

Awesome list of people who didn't drink the koolaid and buy into Hillary's bullshit.

[Wells]

Awesome list of people who didn't drink the koolaid and buy into Hillary's bullshit.

Yeah, a real who's who of intellectual titans.

[Stonecloak]

@The Penguin

I'm exhausted, my wife wants some cuddle time so I have to bow out, but you're right, It's worth it, and I've noticed some gears unhinging, only to lock back into place again, but it'll happen again, eventually. As for education I think it's a big underlining issue. One most people probably wouldn't notice, because a society that isn't open to outside ideas is an insecure society, and I think we have a very insecure society when it comes to certain ideas. Anyways just a thought, but goodnight. Glad there's more of you out there.

[Spunt]

Yeah, a real who's who of intellectual titans.

Because believing Hillary's lies and bullshit makes one intelligent right?