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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Sure I can. Now I am willing to say it's probably not the case here but it's perfectly possible half a country can be racists.
    keep it up keep calling voters you need to win national elections racist and bigots and see how many national elections you will win

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    keep it up keep calling voters you need to win national elections racist and bigots and see how many national elections you will win
    Basically never call anyone a racist or a bigot because their feelings might get hurt even if they are a racist or a bigot. Wonderful free exchange of ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gestopft View Post
    I think you seem to think that moving to the left means that you can't distance yourselves from these groups, or something. SJW's aren't "far left," they are "authoritarian left." Moving toward the progressives and millennials- people who care about climate change, about income inequality, about affordable college and healthcare, like the Bernie voters that turned out in big (but not big enough) numbers- doesn't have to mean embracing PC culture or intersectionality, or any of those other things that seem to turn you off so much. I'm far to the left (for an American) economically, but (like Bill Maher) I too roll my eyes at many of these groups.
    People are advocating the intersectionality as a means to go forward, they have done so in this thread, they did it in the article I linked, we heard it after Brexit, more will likely come out over the next few months following Trump's victory.

    Go left if you want, just don't stop to pick up hitchhikers.

    One thing I hate about current British politics is the lack of an effective opposition, that might not sound odd, but I support the ruling party, so I am calling for people to oppose my views. I want a strong opposition, as it keeps the party in power from going doolally.

    From our point of view America has two parties; a right wing one that has got some far right fruit loops attached to it and a centre right one that has picked up some far left crazies.

    Far left and centre right don't mix, the Democrats being the furthest left of the two main parties have been lumbered with virtually everything to the left, including those fringe parts of the left wing that even left wing parties in Europe wouldn't touch with a bargepole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    Basically never call anyone a racist or a bigot because their feelings might get hurt even if they are a racist or a bigot. Wonderful free exchange of ideas.
    That is not what they said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    the time to fight for your beliefs is before election day not the day after
    No the time is always. 24/7 365 days a week. This is what they should take away. Activism is key. Not just getting out the vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    Just touching someone without permission can get you an assault charge, like grabbing a persons wrist. Since he was grabbing genitals and trying to passionately kiss women without permission it is indeed legally sexual assault. One need not drop a genital into a genital to be sexual assault. I can't just walk up and grab ladies boobs through their clothes anymore than he can grab them by the pussies.
    So you honestly believe that he reached out and grabbed a womans vagina? Like really? Seriously you believe that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    Basically never call anyone a racist or a bigot because their feelings might get hurt even if they are a racist or a bigot. Wonderful free exchange of ideas.
    At what time was it ever the right idea to be somewhat honest when talking to the average voter ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    People are advocating the intersectionality as a means to go forward, they have done so in this thread, they did it in the article I linked, we heard it after Brexit, more will likely come out over the next few months following Trump's victory.

    Go left if you want, just don't stop to pick up hitchhikers.

    One thing I hate about current British politics is the lack of an effective opposition, that might not sound odd, but I support the ruling party, so I am calling for people to oppose my views. I want a strong opposition, as it keeps the party in power from going doolally.

    From our point of view America has two parties; a right wing one that has got some far right fruit loops attached to it and a centre right one that has picked up some far left crazies.

    Far left and centre right don't mix, the Democrats being the furthest left of the two main parties have been lumbered with virtually everything to the left, including those fringe parts of the left wing that even left wing parties in Europe wouldn't touch with a bargepole.

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    That is not what they said.
    No thats precisely what they say. If you do manage to levy the charge of racism they simple deconstruct it toll it means nothing and youre a sjw for calling someone a bigot. They carrry a massive victim complex and lack any self awareness. The entire thing is one giant expression of poes law and is not taken seriously by anyone with the slightest bit of education, compassion or sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    No the time is always. 24/7 365 days a week. This is what they should take away. Activism is key. Not just getting out the vote.
    when that so called activism alienates the majority by blaming that majority for all that is wrong you wont win

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickJamesLich View Post
    lawl, the Trump protestors are so dumb. They are pretty much protesting democracy without even being aware of it.Same thing reminds me of the Brexit vote, democracy is all fine and dandy I guess..... until you don't get your way once. Then it's time to change the system!!!!!
    Democracy is the one where the person with the 2nd most vote wins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cFortyfive View Post
    At what time was it ever the right idea to be somewhat honest when talking to the average voter ?
    Its beyond elections though. Its a gross attempt by these fools to silence free expression in the name of free expression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    when that so called activism alienates the majority by blaming that majority for all that is wrong you wont win
    The majority didnt vote. Of those that did hillary won the popular vite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    you shouldn't throw insults at the electorate just because you lost.

    the reason why trump won was because of the insults liberals were throwing at conservative voters. when 4chan openly supports conservatism over socialism you know there is something wrong lmao
    Right, because conservatives never insult liberals. Totally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    Right, because conservatives never insult liberals. Totally.
    I guess if hillary had appended basket of deplorables with im sure some of them are good people they wouldnt be such victims about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    Basically never call anyone a racist or a bigot because their feelings might get hurt even if they are a racist or a bigot. Wonderful free exchange of ideas.
    problem what your doing is calling people racist and bigots that aren't racist or bigots and they only reason you call them racist and bigots because they don't agree with you don't think like you

    wanting to secure our boarder and enforce our immigration laws doesn't make you a racist or a bigot
    wanting to protect our country from an influx of terrorist doesn't make you a racist or a bigot

    calling people racist and bigots that aren't does nothing but alienate them piss them off and don't expect them to keep voting for you
    Last edited by Vyxn; 2016-11-10 at 12:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    Democracy is the one where the person with the 2nd most vote wins?
    Not saying Trump would win this way but here is the thing, you have to be naive to think votes would be vastley different if it was popular vote over electoral college. People in non swing states can and will vote 3rd party to show who they really want.

    And since the vote is separated by a mere .0018% you would be a fool to think it could still swing in Trumps favor if people knew they where voting by popular vote instead of the electoral college.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    Its beyond elections though. Its a gross attempt by these fools to silence free expression in the name of free expression.

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    The majority didnt vote. Of those that did hillary won the popular vite.
    whites which are the majority and the majority of those whites voted for Trump including women

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    whites which are the majority and the majority of those whites voted for Trump including women
    Millenials the largest voting block largely stayed at home. I.e a majority didnt vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    No thats precisely what they say. If you do manage to levy the charge of racism they simple deconstruct it toll it means nothing and youre a sjw for calling someone a bigot. They carrry a massive victim complex and lack any self awareness. The entire thing is one giant expression of poes law and is not taken seriously by anyone with the slightest bit of education, compassion or sense.
    No, they said calling voters racists or bigots. Some people are racists and some people are bigots, but saying everyone that was considering voting Trump is a racist or bigot, is simply not true, yet people did exactly that.

    For example; if someone wants a tough stance on illegal immigration, it does not make them a racist, it makes them someone who wants a tough stance on illegal immigration. They may well be a racist, but unless you have proof they are, then you are just demonising people for having different opinions to yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    Millenials the largest voting block largely stayed at home. I.e a majority didnt vote.
    staying home and not voting is a vote in its self. a vote for I don't care enough for either candidate to make the effort to vote

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    ... the Democrats being the furthest left of the two main parties have been lumbered with virtually everything to the left, including those fringe parts of the left wing that even left wing parties in Europe wouldn't touch with a bargepole.
    It's the same with the Republican party though, isn't it? They seem to pick up all the ultra right crazies.

    The two party system makes things weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akylios View Post
    It's the same with the Republican party though, isn't it? They seem to pick up all the ultra right crazies.

    The two party system makes things weird.
    It is, but Trump ran on an anti-establishment programme, so anything the crazies did didn't automatically get pinned on him. He didn't give a toss if the Republican Party had a poor reputation, he was there to clean the whole politicial system up.

    Basically he had his cake and ate it.

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