The problem is that under a raw popular vote, small states lose their voice entirely.
Which is why I'd rather see a mix of the current and popular vote with something akin to Maine. That way everyone has a voice and everyone's vote counts while still giving representation to the small states. It may not alter the election but it would likely increase turnout and cut down on voter apathy. Elections like this year's just discourage future voters. Millions of votes were tossed aside because of winner take all over less then 1% voting margins.
Break out the fucking decimal points if we have to and let's start giving everyone's vote some power.
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I'm not a republican, but you're dead wrong when you say that the Republican led congress didn't do their job by not appointing a new supreme court justice. They did by using the powers legally vested in them by the constitution and acted in what they believed to be the interests of their constituents. On top of that, the democrats did the same thing in 2007 when they refused to vote on any of Bush's nominees and I don't fault them for that either because they were also acting in the best interests of their constituents.
To what end? You believe that California's economic capacity is somehow beneficial if it's removed from the other 49 states? Saying 'good riddance' is just as silly as the folks who ask for secession in the first place (oh hi Texas, every 6 months or so). It's fairy tale saber rattling from a loud, extremely tiny minority, and nothing more.
Each individual vote would count in a raw (democracy) vote, thereby no one loosing their voice. And no one is voting for a state official, they are voting for a USA president. In that vote, no one should be looking at what is good for their state, they should be looking at what is good for their country.
Last edited by Total Crica; 2016-11-10 at 06:14 AM.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy
Seems like the U.S is a mix of both.
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Well, this is what we get for letting retards vote. Seriously, 67% of white female and male voters who voted Trump did not have a college education.
Let California leave. I don't blame them. I don't care what happens; I'm ready to watch this motherfucker burn.
Wouldn't the naming convention for retarded seperation movements dictate that this thing should be called calxit or at least calixit?
But then the last 2 all had Es.. hmm. I guess it works.
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Such a wonderful dream. Let California start digging oil and spend all that tax money on California. Agriculture, science and technology, entertainment and likely even energy..
California carries the majority of the rest of the country on its back, other than NY, Texas, and (maybe) a couple other self sustaining states, and is the only state that could obviously be completely not just fully self sustaining, but highly profitable as its own country. However, the rest of the US is far too reliant on California to stand for a secession so it's not likely anything could possibly come to fruition from this.
Not really. The Reality of California is it's propped up. It's a tax haven for American businesses and an artificial fruit bowl area. California is already having issues with Water supplies because alot of Farmers have moved their stock to Almonds and Kiwi Fruit that demand ALOT more Water than Naturally permeable in California.
Yeah, but what you're criticizing about the electoral college is a feature of the system, not a flaw. The whole point of the system is to make it so smaller states don't have as much of a disadvantage against bigger states thus ensuring that their interests and votes are represented in the result. The problem is that a national popular vote isn't in its own bubble, it's made up of hundreds or thousands of different bubbles or sections of American culture that are vastly different from each other. In the case of a straight popular vote, whichever party that controls California would get a significant advantage because at a certain point areas with a high level of political homogeneity can sustain themselves as bastions for that particular party. This is the reason why swing states are seen as exceptional because the majority of states can reliably be counted on to vote a certain way no matter what. The point is that if you have a problem with the electoral college reducing the relative voting power of larger states by increasing the voting power of smaller states then in order to solve that someone would have to come up with a system that avoids the tyranny of the majority like the electoral college does while also not reducing the relative voting power of the larger states which is pretty much impossible.