Why Light Champions(Good Guys) are not as badass as baddies?

[Zandalariprelate]

I dunno Maxwell since pretty badass to me, maraad to, boros and liadrin

[Zulkhan]

Its sad what Blizzard forgot about them. They was looking like some mix between AC (Light) and EB (Ruthless). Guys who use Light and not afraid of bloodletting if it was needed.

The greatest danger of a Paladin giving in to violence is to succumb to negative emotions but the Brotherhood kind of denies the issue by discarding human emotions altogether, where the Scarlet Crusade ended up as it did exactly because of their anger and fear going out of control.

[RH92]

I really enjoyed Maraad in WoD, too bad Blizzard decided to kill him. His death had no impact on story and he could have been used in future expansion(s) as well. He was this strong and inspiring Paladin who had his own 'demons' to conquer and I loved that inner conflict about him. Overcoming his past could make him even more determined to fight Legion. Such shame he died for nothing.

An inner conflict of morals and emotions is pretty much nowhere near to be found in good guys. On the other hand evil is formed as result of this conflict, otherwise it seems unjustified. We need to see good guys struggle and question their own choices, we rarely see them.

[Verdugo]

I really enjoyed Maraad in WoD, too bad Blizzard decided to kill him. His death had no impact on story and he could have been used in future expansion(s) as well. He was this strong and inspiring Paladin who had his own 'demons' to conquer and I loved that inner conflict about him. Overcoming his past could make him even more determined to fight Legion. Such shame he died for nothing.

An inner conflict of morals and emotions is pretty much nowhere near to be found in good guys. On the other hand evil is formed as result of this conflict, otherwise it seems unjustified. We need to see good guys struggle and question their own choices, we rarely see them.

Dont you like that bimbo with terrible accent though? Blizz really tried, pinky promise!

[JTHMRulez1]

"Badass" is a very ambigous term tho. I encountered Anduin badass in his comic, for example. Meanwhile other people still have migraine just by think about him.

[RH92]

Dont you like that bimbo with terrible accent though? Blizz really tried, pinky promise!

I am quite neutral about Yrel to be honest.

All her actual actions in game were rather okay, I just hated how weak she felt. They promised us strong woman character and yet, she was constantly 'damsel in doubt' and all her successes looked like happy accidents in the end.

However death of Maraad pissed me off as it basically had no bearing on her development while both characters could easily co-exist and he could actually transcend back into main universe as a solid war leader for Draenei.

[Venziir]

I am from europe and I play monk, what do I want to play?

Friar Tuck.

[T-Owl]

Its sad what Blizzard forgot about them. They was looking like some mix between AC (Light) and EB (Ruthless). Guys who use Light and not afraid of bloodletting if it was needed.

They described themselves as a mix between Scarlet Crusade and Argent Dawn and Korfax threatened to kill Maxwell if the Player tells somebody.

[Zulkhan]

Dont you like that bimbo with terrible accent though? Blizz really tried, pinky promise!

During 6.2 it reached new heights of horror, ones I wasn't prepared for.

[T-Owl]

"Badass" is a very ambigous term tho. I encountered Anduin badass in his comic, for example. Meanwhile other people still have migraine just by think about him.

I would say we have to difference the way we view badass. For example, for me Badass is like...Kaneki Ken from Tokio Ghoul, after he got the white hair. Considering you like Anduin, badass for you is more like Bibleman.

[JadedTauren]

I tend to base my paladins on the Whitecloaks of Wheel of Time. Just very hardcore Burn the Heretic Puritannical types.

[Deleted]

Friar Tuck.

not cool man ...not cool

[JTHMRulez1]

I would say we have to difference the way we view badass. For example, for me Badass is like...Kaneki Ken from Tokio Ghoul, after he got the white hair. Considering you like Anduin, badass for you is more like Bibleman.

This is a good example. I've never encountered Kaneki Ken (Yes, i read Tokyo Ghoul) badass in more ways than just. Well. The fact that he beats people up pretty hard when he gets to the next ghoul state.

I encountered Anduin badass in his comic not only (but it was also pretty badass) because of his display of strength (because lets be real. One-shotting a Dreadlord is at least respectable. Even if it was a no-name) but also because he showed determination. He went from "I ain't gonna fight because i want peace" to "I will fight until i achieve peace" that's a respectable ideal and shows maturity as a character. But it's not that i liked it because it was the right thing to do

I can also encounter badass characters that are evil. For example i also encounter Beerus from Dragon Ball pretty badass. Because he shows godly authority. There is a lot of reasons for why you can be classified as a badass. Well. Unless your definition of badass is the 90's old "trigger happy that doesn't follow rules"

[Venziir]

not cool man ...not cool

I dunno, that guy was the original brewmaster :P

[Erbel]

I would say we have to difference the way we view badass. For example, for me Badass is like...Kaneki Ken from Tokio Ghoul, after he got the white hair. Considering you like Anduin, badass for you is more like Bibleman.

I just looked this Kaneki Ken guy up and holy shit that's some textbook emo edgelord right there.

[T-Owl]

This is a good example. I've never encountered Kaneki Ken (Yes, i read Tokyo Ghoul) badass in more ways than just. Well. The fact that he beats people up pretty hard when he gets to the next ghoul state.

I encountered Anduin badass in his comic not only (but it was also pretty badass) because of his display of strength (because lets be real. One-shotting a Dreadlord is at least respectable. Even if it was a no-name) but also because he showed determination. He went from "I ain't gonna fight because i want peace" to "I will fight until i achieve peace" that's a respectable ideal and shows maturity as a character. But it's not that i liked it because it was the right thing to do

I can also encounter badass characters that are evil. For example i also encounter Beerus from Dragon Ball pretty badass. Because he shows godly authority. There is a lot of reasons for why you can be classified as a badass. Well. Unless your definition of badass is the 90's old "trigger happy that doesn't follow rules"

And I think that Anduin is a Pussy as he cried like a bitch when he was supposed to be holding a sword. And he's the kind of Person who would sell his people out any time if he could archive peace. He's not a diplomat, he's the moron everybody could take adventage of. Like hell, when was the last time he changed something to the better? He helped the Horde entering the Vale of eternal Blossoms which ended in the destruction of said vale. He saved Garrosh life, which makes him responsible for the current Legion Invasion. He always does whatever he wants, his little adventure was more important to him than the future of the kingdom of Stormwind, back in MoP.

He's a pussy and the only reason people like him is that he is the good guy.

[Zuben]

Good guys generally follow rules and patterns, which makes them predictable and therefore boring. If they absolutely have to do something morally questionable, they'll afterwards either enter into a state of self-induced penance or fully succumb to corruption. They essentially lack pragmatic qualities, which at least to me is a major turn off.

[Deleted]

"From light comes darkness, from darkness comes light", Sargeras will turn into a Lord of Light and come help us against the Void Lords.

[Sojourner]

To the OP:

To answer your initial question - the thing is actually quite simple: being good means fighting evil, yes? Nobody is evil until they commit an act of evil - that's when the good retaliate and defend. Being a champion of good means you protect against evil.

Being "pro-active good" would mean that you would go killing people before they did anything evil. And since they haven't done anything evil yet, you are killing innocents - therefore you're the evil one.

Then again, there's retribution (and I don't mean paladin spec)...

[T-Owl]

"From light comes darkness, from darkness comes light", Sargeras will turn into a Lord of Light and come help us against the Void Lords.

The whole "Without Void, there is no Light"-Stuff only proofs that whoever writes for Blizzard is a moron. You don't need evil for good to exist or vice versa.