You're not to think you are anything special. You're not to think you are as good as we are. You're not to think you are smarter than we are. You're not to convince yourself that you are better than we are. You're not to think you know more than we do. You're not to think you are more important than we are. You're not to think you are good at anything. You're not to laugh at us. You're not to think anyone cares about you. You're not to think you can teach us anything.
Incorrect, it's their action to join one of those groups. Muslim is not a hate group, but a religion and should not be the reason we target a person. Any more than targeting Catholics cause they might be IRA or Protestants for being UDA. If you're a member of those organisations (KKK, etc) you don't really have a leg to stand on when the authorities crack down on them, but having the same religion as someone who is in those groups is not grounds for being investigated.
Should we target all white people cause white people are the members of the KKK? No, common sense dictates you actually investigate and find out who is actually a member of it before you act against them. And no choosing to worship Islam is not the same in terms of an "action of joining one of those groups" as Islam is in and of itself is no more a hate group or terrorist organisation than the catholic church, or which protestant sect you happen to come across.
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They should get registered if they are immigrating from those countries as those countries historically have been the source of some of the worlds worst terrorist tragedies.
Its not racist or anything of the sort, its just smart to protect the American people. What if doing so catches some nasty terrorists and prevents thousands of deaths or even more? Would you say it was a good idea then?
Nope, I'd be happy it caught someone but I'd still say it was horrible in it's principle. Like I've said at least four times thus far, I'm not against checking people entering one's country. They should already be doing that, criminal backgrounds, etc. CIA and FBI should be flagging people so the immigration department knows when said person attempts entry that they're someone to be watched or detained there and then. I'm against a policy that dictates a single group should be the entire focus of this, one for the moral reasons, but also cause you'll miss people who are just as capable of doing harm to one's people cause you're not looking at them with the same fervor.
So we can mostly agree. That's great. However, you are tarring muslims with a broad brush yourself in assuming that just because they are apart of a religion that it somehow shields them from what is the exact definition of what a hate group or paramilitary force would be. Just as their are non-violent sects of the KKK, their are non-violent sects of Islam. Infact you would be looking at Sunni's,Wahabbi's, Jama'at-i-islami, muslim brotherhood, Shi'ites, Ishna-'Asharis, Isma'ilis, Zaydis, Sufi's, Baha'is, Ahmaddiyyas, Druze, Alevis, Alawis, and many more however these are the worth while mentionables among Islamic sects and subsects for the sake of the argument.
Your distinction that A.) Just because you are a member of Islam doesn't make you a bad guy B.) Choosing to worship Islam is not the same in terms as "joining one of these groups" is either extraordinarily ignorant to that of a cavity ridden cusin fucking country bumpkin level or he din do nuffin hypocritical mentality. (Not suggesting being a muslim makes you bad automically)
The list in question is about incoming immigrants. Not about citizens of the US. We already have broad brushed list of muslims in the US and you can thank Obama for not only extending the length of such activities but empowering them to new heights.
If we have an immigrant, coming from a particular region, which we have years of solid intelligence that the entirety of these people are "X" sect of Islam known for extreme anti western semitism, terrorist group participation, whose local communities show a propensity for outright violence and suicide attacks, whose local community figureheads demonstrate para militaristic forms of leadership and propaganda enforcement. You are positing, that members of this group should never be included on a list because of their religion.
I rest my case
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The US is a country founded on the idea of Religious Freedom. This registry inhibits religious freedom, and therefore is against traditional American values. True Americans would try to strike this down at every turn.
A Muslim Refugee from Burma walked into an Australian Bank yesterday and burnt 27 people.
So I totally agree with Trumpys Muslim Register
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law...0311d88e7bcb35
Muslim refugee with gallons of flamable liquid
the Aftermath