Italy has a national referendum on Sunday

[S7orm]

Oh it's about whether they leave the EU? Weren't they the poor country who had issues and didn't wanna pay EU back? Sorry if I'm ignorant.

Italexit is just one of the next possible votes if the referendum fails. We are not poor by any standard, but people like to act as if Germany draws the poverty line.

[NED funded]

I wouldn't even know about it if we didn't have this thread.
Took me quite some time to actually understand the referendum.
But it seems as if the referendum is about actually draining the swamp; basically firing over 200 career politicians and giving more power to the people.

I think if no wins, the president is to blame. By claiming he would resign he made this referendum about himself, not about Italy.

I'm afraid that yes wins and then ad5 or something like that wins.

[Kronik85]

People seem to be getting their wires crossed here. This referendum is on leaving the Euro not Europe and some Parliamentary shake ups that may actually let the Government pass the odd law now and then rather than it's current state of total deadlock between houses.

If the Italian Government loses this referendum than Italy is still committed to Europe, at least until they have a referendum on European Membership anyway.

[bufferunderrun]

"Referendum fails, Renzi resigns, Five Star movement wins whatever it is that Italy does after that, initiates another referendum and exits Euro"

Am i getting "worst possible outcome" right here?

Five star movement main policy in case they get in power is to ask for a debt restructuring.

[BourneWolf]

The Euro just took a nose dive.

As a proud Brexiteer, i wish Italy the best of luck.

When you leave that dreaded EU monster, let the UK and Italy talk trade deals.

We will be gladly waiting for you with cookies

[JohnBrown1917]

The Euro just took a nose dive.

As a proud Brexiteer, i wish Italy the best of luck.

When you leave that dreaded EU monster, let the UK and Italy talk trade deals.

We will be gladly waiting for you with cookies

That is not what this referendum is about, but nice try.

[BourneWolf]

That is not what this referendum is about, but nice try.

Of course not.

This isnt a stepping stone whatsoever is it.

The EURO DID take a nose dive by the way.

[JohnBrown1917]

Of course not.

This isnt a stepping stone whatsoever is it.

The EURO DID take a nose dive by the way.

Ye, I acteally did not care about that part.


It being a stepping stone means nothing if pro-EU people have a good reason to vote 'no' on this.

[NED funded]

The Euro just took a nose dive.

As a proud Brexiteer, i wish Italy the best of luck.

When you leave that dreaded EU monster, let the UK and Italy talk trade deals.

We will be gladly waiting for you with cookies

Dude you do realize that if the No wins that means the five start movement has restricted it's own power if it ever gets elected. Its odd that the populists aren't voting for yes.

[Grym]

Of course not.

This isnt a stepping stone whatsoever is it.

The EURO DID take a nose dive by the way.

Which is great because the GBP-EUR exchange rate has gotten better because of this XD

Well done Italy and thanks for the boost.

[BourneWolf]

Dude you do realize that if the No wins that means the five start movement has restricted it's own power if it ever gets elected. Its odd that the populists aren't voting for yes.

Not odd at all.

Its the same anti-establishment movement over and over again caused by the negative impact left wing politics has on the native private sector worker.

We are all sick of your bullshit.

[JohnBrown1917]

We are all sick of your bullshit.

So now you're just going to assume somebodies politics?
And who is 'we'?

[BourneWolf]

Which is great because the GBP-EUR exchange rate has gotten better because of this XD

Well done Italy and thanks for the boost.

Its 1 to 1.20 at the moment. Up 2 cents from yesterday.

It will be interesting to see the start and end of tomorrow.

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So now you're just going to assume somebodies politics?
And who is 'we'?

Playing naievity is what caused you lot to collectively lose to Trump and Brexit.

Your unassuming response is not surprising in the slightest.

And if you do represent the naive left, well, being that dumb to what is happening in EU countries means we are all better off with you far, far away from political power completely.

[NED funded]

Not odd at all.

Its the same anti-establishment movement over and over again caused by the negative impact left wing politics has on the native private sector worker.

We are all sick of your bullshit.

There are two chambers. The upper one which is conformed by five dudes that are member for life (undemocratically) and 315 elected democratically. If the yes wins that means that those five dudes would have virtually no power, if the no means those dudes keep their power which is equal to the 315 senators. This dudes are the establishment/elite.

[Shalcker]

Well, 21.682 / 61.551 (about third) counted, split is 40.71% YES - 59.29 NO (with NO going up as i write), i guess NO wins as expected unless the rest of country for some reason loves Renzi.

[JohnBrown1917]

Playing naievity is what caused you lot to collectively lose to Trump and Brexit.

My lot?
What? I had nothing to do with the Orange thing or the breexit(whenever that one happens).

And if you do represent the naive left, well, being that dumb to what is happening in EU countries means we are all better off with you far, far away from political power completely.

Ye, I really have no idea what you're on about.

[Xanda]

Renzi just resigned

[Grym]

Renzi just resigned

Its 1 to 1.20 at the moment. Up 2 cents from yesterday.

It will be interesting to see the start and end of tomorrow.

The rate definitely would be interesting tomorrow

[NED funded]

Renzi just resigned

HIs fault for making this referendum about him.

[JohnBrown1917]

HIs fault for making this referendum about him.

Politicians do the most idiotic things at times.