"Your Dating 'Preferences' Are Discriminatory"

[Azadina]

No really, I am talking far left. The hypersensitive cupcakes that have to shout down, protest and attempt to ruin everyone who doesn't believe in the PC, regressive agenda.

The hypersensitive frothers like the OP who gets triggered by random meaningless youtube video? Far right, not left. Ruining everyone? Like terrorists attacking Planned Parenthood and shooting people? Again far right, not left.

[NicoWolf]

Usually you discover your orientation during the early pubescent phase when you start having fantasies and discover the internet. The experience does not need to be physical.

The core at what I'm getting at, if you have 0 experience with a situation beyond baseless prejudice, what's the harm in giving it a go. If you already know you don't like something based on previous experience (physical, virtual, etc), then no need. Again, I guess I'm not being clear. Apologies, I'm not the greatest writer.

My god, this is the most insulting thing I've ever read.

"I know you're lesbian, baby, but if you give MY PENIS a chance, you'll see how wrong you are to be prejudiced against me."

Fucking NiceGuy™ logic right there, kids.

[God Save The King]

So, despite all the science that proves homosexuality is genetic, you're telling me that in order to be homosexual, you have to experience it first in order to prefer it?

That a young boy or girl who finds themselves inexplicably attracted to the same sex is prejudiced against the opposite sex? BECAUSE OF THEIR GENETIC PREDISPOSITION?

Do you realize how absurd you sound?

Experience need not be physical. Orientation is genetic. Ascertaining your specific orientation is part of discovering who you are, usually around the pubescent stage in your life. You don't need to bang someone of the same sex to determine your orientation.

[truckboattruck]

im a bigot because i wouldnt pretend that a mad man in a dress is a woman?

[Crissi]

ok, getting into orientations is getting into sexuality talk, which isn't allowed.

[Anastacy]

Experience need not be physical. Orientation is genetic. Ascertaining your specific orientation is part of discovering who you are, usually around the pubescent stage in your life. You don't need to bang someone of the same sex to determine your orientation.

But one needs to bang someone of the same sex to properly determine that one doesn't like banging people of the same sex?

Remember: if homosexuality is genetic, so is heterosexuality.

[God Save The King]

My god, this is the most insulting thing I've ever read.

"I know you're lesbian, baby, but if you give MY PENIS a chance, you'll see how wrong you are to be prejudiced against me."

Fucking NiceGuy™ logic right there, kids.

So you're misunderstanding my point. You don't need to experience each and every person to determine general preference or ascertain sexuality. You can figure that out at a fairly young age.

Sexuality is not discriminatory. Like... refusing to go on a date because someone is blonde or asian is discrimination, unless you've had some level of experience that you can draw a conclusion based on past experience.

Refusing to date a male because you're a lesbian is clearly not discrimination

[Jdubwo]

The newest idiocy out of the SJW camp, and I so called this a year ago:



TL;DW version: it doesn't matter if you're ok with transgender rights, if you won't date a tran, then you're a fucking bigot. If you're a man and you won't date a trans woman because you don't like penises, then you're a bigot. If you're a woman and you won't date a trans man because you want the D, then you're a bigot. And if you won't date a potential person because they are trans and thus you can't have kids with them, the old school biological way, then you're a fucking bigot.

Yeah, keep trying to cram more of those radical ideas down the mainstream people's throats, SJW's and other lefties. And keep wondering why people won't vote for you or people like you.

andywarski is that you? ......

[Mad_Murdock]

Are there gay couples that don't have anal? Cause that would be a very uneventful relationship.

I'm guessing you could limit early dating to oral and hand jobs.

[IIamaKing]

The dude in the video needs a hair cut.


OT what a stupid notion.

[theWocky]

Reminds me of the (paraphrased) words of Jim Jeffries: "I'm a bigot, not a racist, nor a sexist - and yes, there is a difference"

http://www.oxfordlearnersdictionarie.../english/bigot

[jimboa24]

Well this question missed the point of my post, which to sum it up nicely, is intent. If the only reason she said no is because he is a male, then yes it is discrimination. Literally textbook definition. Your post covers one of many reasons why you wouldn't go on a date with someone else. Becoming physically ill at the thought of touching someone of the same gender is not discrimination. If the female has considered male partners in the past, and has grown to the point of complete opposition, then it's no longer prejudice, it's experience.

Prejudice leads to discrimination.

Experience leads to preference.

Preference is okay, discrimination is not.


Simple example: I have never been on a roller coaster. Roller coasters look scary, therefore I refuse to go on roller coasters. Prejudice --> Discrimination towards roller coasters.

I have been on a steel and wooden roller coaster. Both times I did not enjoy it and felt sick afterwards, therefore I refuse to go on roller coasters. Experience --> Preference against roller coasters.




I completely agree with the start of your post



You're conflating experience, which is what this quote shows, with prejudice. Once you've experienced something a few times you can make a judgement for future encounters.



Hopefully this clears up my failure to properly articulate my point. Sorry for any confusion.

Here's the problem with your argument: you don't have to have actually tried to be sexual with the same gender/sex to know you won't like it. Under your premise, if I have not actually attempted to engage in sex with a man, then I have no valid place to say that I won't like it and turning down a sexual offer from a man is thus discrimination. Which is bullshit.

I'm 31 years old. I've been with more women than I've cared to keep count of, and never have I once even had the remotest desire to engage in sex with a man. Quite the opposite in fact. I've had a few opportunities to have a mfm threeway, with a pretty damn attractive female. I've turned every opportunity down because of the presence of another male. It's just the biggest turnoff imaginable to me. Men are not at all attractive to me, the penis looks like a malformed, mutant appendage and there is no part of homosexuality that I am even remotely tempted to explore.

So, this idea that "if you haven't tried it, and are unwilling to try it, then you're just a discriminating bigot!" to be pretty fucking offensive, and laughably ridiculous. It's also pretty funny that the same crowd arguing, "have you at least tried being a little gay?" is the same crowd that gets fucking pissed when the Christian right asks homosexuals, "have you tried not being gay?"

[NicoWolf]

Not to prod a mod, but hasn't this entire thread been more or less sexuality talk? I mean, it is about dating, sex, and everything in between. Orientation and genetics, especially in this kind of discussion, go hand in hand, as per the science of it all. If someone is making an assertion otherwise, wouldn't it be prudent to either shut down the thread or have such claims be backed up by solid evidence to facilitate proper discussion?

[God Save The King]

But one needs to bang someone of the same sex to properly determine that one doesn't like banging people of the same sex?

Remember: if homosexuality is genetic, so is heterosexuality.

Well our discussion has been shut down by moderation. So I guess we'll have to end it at we're misunderstanding one another. I assure you I did not mean what you're suggesting and I'm very sorry I was not able to properly articulate my thoughts to convey that. Feel free to PM me if you want to continue.

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Here's the problem with your argument: you don't have to have actually tried to be sexual with the same gender/sex to know you won't like it. Under your premise, if I have not actually attempted to engage in sex with a man, then I have no valid place to say that I won't like it and turning down a sexual offer from a man is thus discrimination. Which is bullshit.

I'm 31 years old. I've been with more women than I've cared to keep count of, and never have I once even had the remotest desire to engage in sex with a man. Quite the opposite in fact. I've had a few opportunities to have a mfm threeway, with a pretty damn attractive female. I've turned every opportunity down because of the presence of another male. It's just the biggest turnoff imaginable to me. Men are not at all attractive to me, the penis looks like a malformed, mutant appendage and there is no part of homosexuality that I am even remotely tempted to explore.

So, this idea that "if you haven't tried it, and are unwilling to try it, then you're just a discriminating bigot!" to be pretty fucking offensive, and laughably ridiculous. It's also pretty funny that the same crowd arguing, "have you at least tried being a little gay?" is the same crowd that gets fucking pissed when the Christian right asks homosexuals, "have you tried not being gay?"

So I made a handful of posts trying to clear this up, but moderation has requested this to stop. I assure you I meant no insult and what I believe is not at all reflected in your assessment. Apologies for not getting my point across well enough. Feel free to bug me privately if you want to continue.

But to nutshell it, you've obtained some level of experience in order to have that response. It's not longer prejudice or discrimination at your point. It's preference based on experience (which, again, need not be physical intercourse or anything of that nature). It's a really fine line that's rather hard to articulate, so sorry for misconveying my thoughts

[God Save The King]

You don't always need experience to absolutely know what you're into and what ypure not. But that starts delving into sexuality talk and is no bueno.

Sorry Crissi. I didn't mean you needed to experience it physically. Pornography, personal thoughts, reflection, etc, can all form preference/ascertain who you are. That's the point I was (failing to) trying to make.

[Captain N]

Welcome to General Off-Topic, the forum where everything is made up and the rules don't matter.

Until you get in trouble and then it's clear bias!

[Halyon]

People just like to feel victimized... Overly so nowadays... :I

[Underverse]

The problem here is that I don't want anything up my butt. I know some guys do, but I don't. I also I like women with feminine voices and breasts. The deep voice is... off putting. Fat discrimination is just something anyone can solve, and I know cause I did. I lost 140lbs and if I can do it anybody can do it. It's just not healthy, says like every doctor.

I feel at this point we're asking people to stop discriminating their sexual preference and just try being gay. Which is just as absurd as telling gay people that being gay is a choice. People like what they like, and you should respect their preference. Including wanting a woman with a vagina.

Well, there's nothing wrong with encouraging people to try new things. Human sexuality is not rigid, and it isn't binary. Gay and straight are social constructs that people become accustomed to thanks to neural plasticity and intense cultural pressures from the moment they are able to sense the world around them. 'Male' also encompasses far more than 'lumberjack' and 'female' encompasses far more than standard curvy girl x.

In the same way that it's at least closed-minded to say that you will never sexually interact with someone who has dark skin, it's closed-minded to say that you will never interact with someone who is biologically male. It might be a very low chance, but because there is so much overlap between individuals, it's very likely that there is at least one human on the planet who falls into your 'forbidden category' that you would, without irrational motive, sexually interact with.

[Crissi]

On second thought, it just seems way too hard for people not to delve into sexuality talk in this thread

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