And the whole point is that the system needs checks in place so that:
A) The individual voter can't cheat and vote more than once
B) The poll workers can't cheat and alter the tallies
C) The election boards can't cheat and alter the tallies
And you simply can't do those things without a system that verifies who people are before they vote.
Which is countered by the fact that each voter is only issued one ballot and it is cross checked against the voter rolls.
Neither of which are resolved by photo ID.B) The poll workers can't cheat and alter the tallies
C) The election boards can't cheat and alter the tallies
We have this, it's called registration.And you simply can't do those things without a system that verifies who people are before they vote.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...oner-says.html
Want to source shame some more, or can we move on?
Nothing in your hypothetical system stops an individual from casting more than one ballot assuming they're able to get past registration.
Yes, those other instances of voter/election fraud are not "resolved" by photo ID, but are impossible to prove without a verifiable paper trail and a registration process that makes sense. So, you can't have one without the other.
And voter registration is exactly where the problems seem to be occurring.
1. A number of states don't have early voting.
2. You still need to get there, a daunting task for people who have no public transportation (aka the entire country outside cities), have no vehicle, have no ride, have no money, etc., etc., etc.
3. In several states this cycle, Republicans cut early voting. I would assume the end goal being the removal of it entirely at some point.
That's a registration issue, not a voter ID issue.
Yeah, and how do you expect to figure out which ballots are fraudulent considering they aren't named?Yes, those other instances of voter/election fraud are not "resolved" by photo ID, but are impossible to prove without a verifiable paper trail and a registration process that makes sense. So, you can't have one without the other.
Which is solved by having to present photo ID at the poll, how?And voter registration is exactly where the problems seem to be occurring.
Again, I'm totally in favor of automatic, in person voter registration when you turn eighteen for all citizens.
A claim he made without evidence, just that in his opinion it's easy which contradicts the reports of the actual electoral commission which states that while voter fraud does occur, it's not common. Anyway, I wasn't trying to shame you, the UKIP claim was the only recent one I could see and people who may not be familiar with UKIP or British politics might not know that they (ukip) are full of shit.
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