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    Ambidexterity relics

    At what point do I start taking higher ilvl relics that have worse traits than the ambidexterity relic that I'm running now? +3 ilvls? Or is ambi worth more than that? If someone can post a frost dk relic sim list that would be really helpful thanks!

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    Would like to know myself. I don't have any other relics to sim it either. I've always picked higher ilvls, even when I had to drop ambidex.

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    List of relics: http://i.imgur.com/7gzoA0n.png

    How to use the list: http://i.imgur.com/r6yQoDD.jpg

    Taken sraight out of DK Archerus Discord theory crafting channel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvanos View Post
    List of relics: http://i.imgur.com/7gzoA0n.png

    How to use the list: http://i.imgur.com/r6yQoDD.jpg

    Taken sraight out of DK Archerus Discord theory crafting channel.
    What are the chances for getting these for the other two specs?

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    Pretty high.

    Unholy sheath here: http://i.imgur.com/b9lz55u.png

    For blood... well, there isnt one as there is no way to sim it in same way, but the best ones are generally concidered the ones that increase Vamp Blood effect and DRW duration. Also the stam/armor one is okay-ish.

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    sweet, thank you man.

    In terms of blood, i thought that maybe Coagulopathy would be decent too, to improve the effects of Umbilicus Eternus, but i guess for ST fights, blood plague wont be doing that much damage

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    If Coagulopathy was more than 4% per point you'd probably have something, but the RoI for it is terrible per point.

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    I think I made a huge mistake in switching out my 875 overpowered relic with a 865 nothing but boots relic. The weap ilvl diff is -3 and I used those charts to see if the 865 boots relic was better. It says is it but now I'm simming 600 dps less. I'm going to try it in game to see exactly how much dps I actually lost/gained. It seems outside of ambidexterity, higher ilvl relics are always the way to go. I guess the chart was wrong in that regard. I've had such bad luck with frost relics, I hope I didn't screw myself over...

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    we all run DHT 12+ in hopes of that 880 relic off Oakheart...

    Mythic Nyth you can get 2 NBtB and one Ambi. burn your rolls when you kill her for a 907 weapon.
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    885 ilvl with 860 relics.

    Feels good man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0verdose View Post
    I think I made a huge mistake in switching out my 875 overpowered relic with a 865 nothing but boots relic. The weap ilvl diff is -3 and I used those charts to see if the 865 boots relic was better. It says is it but now I'm simming 600 dps less. I'm going to try it in game to see exactly how much dps I actually lost/gained. It seems outside of ambidexterity, higher ilvl relics are always the way to go. I guess the chart was wrong in that regard. I've had such bad luck with frost relics, I hope I didn't screw myself over...
    Well, worst case scenario, you lost 3 ilvls and 600 dps. It sucks, but it's nothing huge.

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    There is literally only 2 sources of getting an Ambidexterity Frost relic apart from RNG world quests, one from Attunesmen and the other from chain farming DHT.

    As a raider the chances of using M Nythendra relics in all your slots is pretty high, and they're not terrible traits either.

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    Yeah was just gonna farm neth for those frost relics. I'm so bummed that I did this experiment. Shouldnt have listened to those charts...

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