Denmark Doctors Call to Ban Circumcision For Boys Under 18

[Mehrunes]

Reponsible parents/doctors do it for the obvious health benefits.

Which is precisely why even American Academy of Pediatrics doesn't routine circumcision. And the equivalent bodies in European countries weirdly enough don't even share their stance on how awesome non-routine circumcision is. Even more weirdly enough, those countries don't practice circumcision, while US does. Gee, I wonder why US doctors are more positive about it (but not to the point to recommend it being a routine procedure).

[Tijuana]

Denmark's most famous products are Lego and bacon. Jews and Muslims are bad for their economy.

Wait, they make Legos? I just assumed those were American, since they don't suck.

[Jaylock]

This is just disgusting.

Its a hygiene issue, not some sort of decision that needs to be made by the kid when he turns 18. Parents should have full control over when and if their child gets circumcised.

[Deleted]

Literally the only people who are against circumcision are the ones stuck with ugly penises most women won't even look at and who don't want to undergo surgery now that they're adults. I implore you to think about your health and get over your insecurities.

Aren't you usually in favour of giving people tons of personal rights? Now suddenly someone else should be able to make this decision for a little child - instead of letting them decide what they want?

Its a hygiene issue, not some sort of decision that needs to be made by the kid when he turns 18. Parents should have full control over when and if their child gets circumcised.

And yet it is uncommon in most of Europe. But yes, I am sure most Europeans are just unhygienic.

[Jaylock]

So you're saying it's fine to torture children for the sake of getting it out of the way? How about we just stop mutilating people?

Its not torture, are you really that ignorant?

Its a HYGIENE issue.

[Mehrunes]

That's just retarded...

What positive ones? Health and Hygiene? May I remind you we're in the 21st century... unless you've got phimosis and/or have non-existent hygiene your argument holds no merit and is nothing but archaic thought.

Steroid cream is the suggested treatment for phimosis anyway.

In the US it's done for medical reasons too.

Arguging against it like saying, let's not get rid of the cancer in my baby, cause it might someday be opposed to the procedure since it might miss a bit of skin.

Nevermind it's in your health's best interest.

Yeah, totes. That's why the studies on this are recent, inconclusive and mostly done in relation to African nations, while circumcision was introduced to US over a century earlier for moral, religious and pseudo-science reasons.

[Kalis]

Wait, they make Legos? I just assumed those were American, since they don't suck.

Americans are mostly famous for making things that suck, like your motor industry, but you churn out so many that they become ubiquitous.

Europe is more the artisan, in comparison to the mass produced American fare. Hand made vs machine made, Michelangelo vs McDonald's, Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

[Garnier Fructis]

Steroid cream is the suggested treatment for phimosis anyway.

Depending on how bad it is, it can take a short time, or a long time.

Just saying.

[Jaylock]

Aren't you usually in favour of giving people tons of personal rights? Now suddenly someone else should be able to make this decision for a little child - instead of letting them decide what they want?


And yet it is uncommon in most of Europe. But yes, I am sure most Europeans are just unhygienic.

Birth rates in Europe have been declining, so i'm not surprised.

[zealo]

I just find it ironic that people say circumcision is multilation..... when the end result looks better than the uncircumcised penis. Uncircumcised penis looks like some mutated worm thing...

Opinions and all, but actually having that foreskin tends to also act like a natural lubricant all by itself. Males have that foreskin for a reason when they're born, and the drawbacks are not anything some personal good hygiene won't take care of.

[Draco-Onis]

Birth rates in Europe have been declining, so i'm not surprised.

The US birth rate is among the lowest on record, that is a modern worldwide phenomenon.

[Doctor Funkenstein]

I, personally, am glad I was circumsized as an infant. 1.) My conscious mind didn't have to endure the pain and recovery of the procedure, and 2.) uncut cocks are absolutely disgusting to look at. I can't even stand porn that has an uncut cock in it. It's just nasty as fuck, and I certainly wouldn't wish that experience on a sexual partner.

[araine]

Excellent, this barbaric tradition should be considered criminal.

[Tijuana]

Americans are mostly famous for making things that suck, like your motor industry, but you churn out so many that they become ubiquitous.

Europe is more the artisan, in comparison to the mass produced American fare. Hand made vs machine made, Michelangelo vs McDonald's, Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

A Brit talking car smack to an American....that is rich. Few things on earth are more unreliable than a British car engine.

[Jaylock]

A Brit talking car smack to an American....that is rich. Few things on earth are more unreliable than a British car engine.

But the engines are hand crafted by hand!

[Mehrunes]

I have changed my view on circumcision over the last year or so, my opinion is that while it is not directly comparable to female genital mutilation (especially with the removal of the clitoris, meaning that almost all sexual pleasure is removed in these young girls), it is comparable enough in the sense that both are unnecessary procedures that cause unnecessary pain on a child, and are procedures that (may? studies seem conflicted on this) impact future sexual pleasure.

I think banning circumcision under 18 is a good call, as long as there are exceptions for medical reasons that might necessitate one. If boys want to get circumcised at 18 for religious purposes then they should be able to do so.

It is perfectly comparable to type Ia of FGM (if not slightly worse). Which is enough to get people foaming at their mouths about barbarism. What I find funny is that the scale of FGM (and I think the name shift from female circumcision as well) was created by WHO who condemned them all as darkness incarnate. The same WHO who deemed circumcision as cost effective measure for preventing HIV in risk populations despite also claiming it couldn't and shouldn't replace condoms and other existing preventive measures anyway.

[tehealadin]

I just find it ironic that people say circumcision is multilation..... when the end result looks better than the uncircumcised penis. Uncircumcised penis looks like some mutated worm thing...

Well, it is mutilation.

[Kalis]

A Brit talking car smack to an American....that is rich. Few things on earth are more unreliable than a British car engine.

But we have Aston Martin, Bentley, Rolls Royce, hand made works of art, admittedly financed by Germans, but whatever. You have cheap plastics and second rate leather, in a body that looks as if it is designed by a pimply teenager.

And if you want reliability, then you go German or Japanese, not American.

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I, personally, am glad I was circumsized as an infant. 1.) My conscious mind didn't have to endure the pain and recovery of the procedure, and 2.) uncut cocks are absolutely disgusting to look at. I can't even stand porn that has an uncut cock in it. It's just nasty as fuck, and I certainly wouldn't wish that experience on a sexual partner.

You usually watch porn with flaccid penises then? Odd kink you have.

[Underverse]

Circumcision has no real negative impacts, but a whole lot of positive ones. It should be done right after birth unless the parents choose to not want it done.

What a backwards policy they're trying to implement there, ethics committee my ass.

The magnitude of benefits is small, and the negative impacts are clear and binary. A slightly increased incidence of mild UTIs in exchange for increased partner pleasure, increased sensitivity, nonexistant keratinization, self-hydration, and the ability to masturbate without using tools is a good deal.

We also don't know the full ramifications of removing that entire area of skin biome. There could be negative effects that haven't been studied yet; and given the negative impacts of messing with our biology in similar cases where 'vestigal' organs are removed, I would say that it is very likely that the foreskin microbiome exerts protective effects that we have yet to quantify.

Finally, as with everything this procedure has a cost. Costs must always be justified. Even if circumcision did not have any negative side effects, and just slightly reduced the incidence of mild UTIs, the benefits would not justify the costs of the procedure, in terms of infant pain, financial costs, equipment, and expertise.

[JohnBrown1917]

Birth rates in Europe have been declining, so i'm not surprised.

How are they even related?