Help me create a new PC

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Hey guys,

I graduated from Uni and I can finally afford to buy a good decent PC, I want to build a PC from scratch ( everything from SSDs to heat sinks...etc.). I haven't built a PC in year so I am extremely clueless on what parts to buy and I don't want to create something that is not the right fit for me.

My Budget

- The computer 1000 - 1500$ (I'd rather not spend all my budget)
- The Monitor 199 - 249$

I will be buying the PC through this website( gear-up). The prices in my country might be more expensive that Europe and the US, could you guys kindly build me a PC through this website?. My goal is to have a PC that can play WoW on Ultra and have good to high FPS on graphic intensive games


Games that I will be playing:

- WoW and Overwatch on highest settings ( Ultra) - I will be mythic raiding so I want to have high fps when I raid.

- Dota 2

My top priority is good fps on Ultra Wow during 20 man mythic while my bro will be using this new PC too and he wants to play those high graphic intensive games on good to high graphic levels.

Monitor: I am really clueless on what brands are good these days, I am looking for something that is around 23-24 inches that is built for gaming.

If the website does not have the monitor you are recommending, I will buy it from somewhere else

The computer itself:

I am starting from scratch so I will be needing everything ( +SSD +heatsink, +cooling,...etc.)

Mouse and keyboard:

I am thinking of a Razor naga and a Logitrch g910 (not part of the PC budget)

Additional Storage

1 4TB and 1 TB internal ( don't include this in the budget, I will be buying it some time after)

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CPU: (6600k too expensive on that site):
https://gear-up.me/processors/intel-...a1151-vga.html
Motherboard:
https://gear-up.me/msi-b150-grenade.html
Ram:
https://gear-up.me/memory/ddr4/ddr4-...cl16-1-2v.html
Graphics Card:
https://gear-up.me/msi-gtx-oc-1060-armor-3g.html
Storage:
HDD https://gear-up.me/storage-devices/h...00rpm-2rz.html
SSD https://gear-up.me/storage-devices/s...gb-bundle.html
Power Supply: (not many good choices here, i suggest PSU cable extensions if you want a clean looking build)
https://gear-up.me/chassis-and-psu/p...us-bronze.html
Case:
https://gear-up.me/chassis-and-psu/c...-windowed.html

Around $1,022 for the tower before tax and shipping

Monitor:
https://gear-up.me/24-quot-led-asus-...4hz-repro.html

The display is ~350 bucks but since the parts i chose for the tower came to just over a grand i think its worth it to spend a bit more for a decent 144hz panel.

You wont need a CPU cooler for this build, the stock one will do just fine.

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CPU: (6600k too expensive on that site):
https://gear-up.me/processors/intel-...a1151-vga.html
Motherboard:
https://gear-up.me/msi-b150-grenade.html
Ram:
https://gear-up.me/memory/ddr4/ddr4-...cl16-1-2v.html
Graphics Card:
https://gear-up.me/msi-gtx-oc-1060-armor-3g.html
Storage:
HDD https://gear-up.me/storage-devices/h...00rpm-2rz.html
SSD https://gear-up.me/storage-devices/s...gb-bundle.html
Power Supply: (not many good choices here, i suggest PSU cable extensions if you want a clean looking build)
https://gear-up.me/chassis-and-psu/p...us-bronze.html
Case:
https://gear-up.me/chassis-and-psu/c...-windowed.html

Around $1,022 for the tower before tax and shipping

Monitor:
https://gear-up.me/24-quot-led-asus-...4hz-repro.html

The display is ~350 bucks but since the parts i chose for the tower came to just over a grand i think its worth it to spend a bit more for a decent 144hz panel.

You wont need a CPU cooler for this build, the stock one will do just fine.

He wants to play wow with high FPS, over clocking the CPU is the only way to achieve that so having an after market cooler is required. Or if you think he doesn't need to over clock then don't suggest a K model CPU.

Edit: Ah your link isn't a K model. My bad ^_^

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CPU: (6600k too expensive on that site):
https://gear-up.me/processors/intel-...a1151-vga.html
Motherboard:
https://gear-up.me/msi-b150-grenade.html
Ram:
https://gear-up.me/memory/ddr4/ddr4-...cl16-1-2v.html
Graphics Card:
https://gear-up.me/msi-gtx-oc-1060-armor-3g.html
Storage:
HDD https://gear-up.me/storage-devices/h...00rpm-2rz.html
SSD https://gear-up.me/storage-devices/s...gb-bundle.html
Power Supply: (not many good choices here, i suggest PSU cable extensions if you want a clean looking build)
https://gear-up.me/chassis-and-psu/p...us-bronze.html
Case:
https://gear-up.me/chassis-and-psu/c...-windowed.html

Around $1,022 for the tower before tax and shipping

Monitor:
https://gear-up.me/24-quot-led-asus-...4hz-repro.html

The display is ~350 bucks but since the parts i chose for the tower came to just over a grand i think its worth it to spend a bit more for a decent 144hz panel.

You wont need a CPU cooler for this build, the stock one will do just fine.

Thanks alot for the build!, I assume it would run with high FPS during mythic raids what about high graphic intensive games ?

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He wants to play wow with high FPS, over clocking the CPU is the only way to achieve that so having an after market cooler is required. Or if you think he doesn't need to over clock then don't suggest a K model CPU.

Edit: Ah your link isn't a K model. My bad ^_^

What if I still go with the 6600k, would I still need to overclock it ? I am willing to reduce some of the setting also long as the graphic quality is near to the ultra level.

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6600k+decent z170 board+cpu cooler would increase his cost by over 200 because of the inflated prices, definitely NOT worth it.

And ya it would destroy WoW and overwatch, just remember 10 preset in WoW isnt optimized well i suggest everyone uses what the auto detect system puts as "recommended. On a system like i linked that would likely be the 8 preset. For overwatch you would run 120+ FPS at all times on ultra, would look great on a 144hz monitor.

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6600k+decent z170 board+cpu cooler would increase his cost by over 200 because of the inflated prices, definitely NOT worth it.

And ya it would destroy WoW and overwatch, just remember 10 preset in WoW isnt optimized well i suggest everyone uses what the auto detect system puts as "recommended. On a system like i linked that would likely be the 8 preset. For overwatch you would run 120+ FPS at all times on ultra, would look great on a 144hz monitor.

With the games the OP is going to play he could save money and go for a 1050. My 980Ti is off for repair atm so i am using my backup GTX 670 PE and i still get 80-100FPS in OverWatch and 80FPS in wow sat in dalaran ( Nvidia recommend settings for WoW ) and most of that FPS is coming from my 6700k @ 4.6ghz

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With the games the OP is going to play he could save money and go for a 1050. My 980Ti is off for repair atm so i am using my backup GTX 670 PE and i still get 80-100FPS in OverWatch and 80FPS in wow sat in dalaran ( Nvidia recommend settings for WoW ) and most of that FPS is coming from my 6700k @ 4.6ghz

Not with the monitor i picked, and i think its worth it to go with a 144hz panel.

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Not with the monitor i picked, and i think its worth it to go with a 144hz panel.

I'm running this monitor and the GTX 670 PE i mentioned earlier so he'd be fine with a lower GPU unless he want's higher FPS on AAA titles.

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I'm running this monitor and the GTX 670 PE i mentioned earlier so he'd be fine with a lower GPU unless he want's higher FPS on AAA titles.

A gtx 1050 is a great card but its not exactly ideal for a 144hz monitor. Are you actually suggesting in this thread that an overclocked 6600k and gtx 1050 is a better way to spend his money? Overclocking is great i do it on my rig, but i think you are seriously overvaluing its usefulness here. Lets not forget how much extra it would cost him on that site for a 6600k/decent z170 board and a cooler.

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A gtx 1050 is a great card but its not exactly ideal for a 144hz monitor. Are you actually suggesting in this thread that an overclocked 6600k and gtx 1050 is a better way to spend his money? Overclocking is great i do it on my rig, but i think you are seriously overvaluing its usefulness here. Lets not forget how much extra it would cost him on that site for a 6600k/decent z170 board and a cooler.

hey fascinate, I want to compare the exact price difference.

if I go with a 6600k, I would have to buy a z170 motherboard and a cooler ( recommend me something good please) right?


To be honest I would be willing to pay extra now if it would help me get a good build that can still preform good in the next 2 years

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For what the OP says he plays i don't think i'm valuing OC enough tbh. My 670 PE powers a 144hz monitor fine for WoW and OW but obviously would fold like a house of cards on modern titles.

Also it is much MUCH easier to upgrade a GPU at a later date if he has a decent foundation to work on. I personally would go for the better cpu/mobo/ram combo and stick with a budget GPU for a while until i could save for a better one. He's going to get much more from being able to OC his CPU than he will a slightly better GPU for running WoW/OW/dota.

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hey fascinate, I want to compare the exact price difference.

if I go with a 6600k, I would have to buy a z170 motherboard and a cooler ( recommend me something good please) right?


To be honest I would be willing to pay extra now if it would help me get a good build that can still preform good in the next 2 years

Get the better Mobo/CPU now and it will last longer than a 1060 will. I'd still have my i5 2500k rig if i didn't get bored and want to build a new one. Over clocking ftw.

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I don't think you were fully understanding my question. You actually believe there are more framerates to be had with a say 4.7ghz 6600k + gtx 1050 than a 6500+gtx 1060?

But anyways that seems besides the point as he wants to spend the extra money for an overclockable system which is fine, he should just know that the money spent there will not translate to as much FPS gain as if he were go to a gtx 1070.

And trust me you ARE truly overvaluing overclocking here, if someone went into my bios and set it to default while i was sleeping i guarantee i wouldnt know they did it in any game i play. On the same token if you went in and replaced my gtx 760 with the 465 in my closet there is a far higher chance i would notice that.

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I don't think you were fully understanding my question. You actually believe there are more framerates to be had with a say 4.7ghz 6600k + gtx 1050 than a 6500+gtx 1060?

But anyways that seems besides the point as he wants to spend the extra money for an overclockable system which is fine, he should just know that the money spent there will not translate to as much FPS gain as if he were go to a gtx 1070.

And trust me you ARE truly overvaluing overclocking here, if someone went into my bios and set it to default while i was sleeping i guarantee i wouldnt know they did it in any game i play. On the same token if you went in and replaced my gtx 760 with the 465 in my closet there is a far higher chance i would notice that.

Yes i am saying this as it's true.

The difference in the games he plays when running a 1060 or 1050 wouldn't be noticeable, the difference between running stock 3.4ghz speed and 4.6ghz is very very noticeable in these games. Ask literally anyone who plays WoW with a modicum of PC knowledge and they will tell you. CPU speed > GPU by a large margin.

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Yes i am saying this as it's true.

The difference in the games he plays when running a 1060 or 1050 wouldn't be noticeable, the difference between running stock 3.4ghz speed and 4.6ghz is very very noticeable in these games. Ask literally anyone who plays WoW with a modicum of PC knowledge and they will tell you. CPU speed > GPU by a large margin.

Well of course if you are only talking about WoW yes that is true in CPU bound areas of the game (my apologies i thought we were talking about overwatch and the 144hz monitor). But you also have to remember most of the places in the game are still GPU bound and if he goes with the monitor i suggested (which he really should, 144hz is a great experience) the GPU will be a far greater contributing factor.

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Yes i am saying this as it's true.

The difference in the games he plays when running a 1060 or 1050 wouldn't be noticeable, the difference between running stock 3.4ghz speed and 4.6ghz is very very noticeable in these games. Ask literally anyone who plays WoW with a modicum of PC knowledge and they will tell you. CPU speed > GPU by a large margin.

It really depends on what you do in game. If it's mostly open world stuff, nothing CPU intensive, you'll notice the GPU. If you start going to world bosses or mythic raiding alot, you'll notice the lack of CPU power.

It really comes down to what has been said about WoW for a long time. CPU determins your Min FPS and GPU determines Max FPS. If you play in a lot of situations where you are at min FPS, CPU matters more. If you play in a lot of situations where you are at Max FPS most of the time, you'll notice the GPU.

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It really depends on what you do in game. If it's mostly open world stuff, nothing CPU intensive, you'll notice the GPU. If you start going to world bosses or mythic raiding alot, you'll notice the lack of CPU power.

It really comes down to what has been said about WoW for a long time. CPU determins your Min FPS and GPU determines Max FPS. If you play in a lot of situations where you are at min FPS, CPU matters more. If you play in a lot of situations where you are at Max FPS most of the time, you'll notice the GPU.

With WoW being so poorly optimized you're going to notice that lower limit much much more than the difference between a 1050-1060. Also like i said before it#s much easier in the future to pop in a new GPU then to swap in a new CPU. The CPU is going to last the longest so is worth a better investment.

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With WoW being so poorly optimized you're going to notice that lower limit much much more than the difference between a 1050-1060. Also like i said before it#s much easier in the future to pop in a new GPU then to swap in a new CPU. The CPU is going to last the longest so is worth a better investment.

I agree, if WoW is a consideration at all, it's better to go for a better CPU. Was just pointing out how either one could be noticeable.

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I agree, if WoW is a consideration at all, it's better to go for a better CPU. Was just pointing out how either one could be noticeable.

I agree with the difference you pointed out. With my 980Ti off for RMA ( problem when using my second monitor on HDMI ) i do notice i don't get the higher frame rates but at least my CPU keeps the game playable.

OP: Build a good core PC then upgrade the GPU when you can save for what you ideally want.

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Again you guys are both SERIOUSLY overvaluing overclocking here lol. You act like the 6500 is piece of garbage and the 6600k is a diamond, please have a bit of perspective on what were talking about here. Ive said this before, but you could disable the OC on my CPU and i would have no idea you changed anything on my PC, none whatsoever. The only way i would notice is if i was aware someone was going to do this and i paid close attention to my FPS counter in a raid and it was 5 fps lower or something.

[Lathais]

Again you guys are both SERIOUSLY overvaluing overclocking here lol. You act like the 6500 is piece of garbage and the 6600k is a diamond, please have a bit of perspective on what were talking about here. Ive said this before, but you could disable the OC on my CPU and i would have no idea you changed anything on my PC, none whatsoever. The only way i would notice is if i was aware someone was going to do this and i paid close attention to my FPS counter in a raid and it was 5 fps lower or something.

Then why do you even have your PC OCed if it makes no noticeable difference? Why did you even waste money on k-series CPU, Z-Motherboard and an aftermarket cooler? If it makes no difference, why did you spend money on it?