A Trump team member just compared climate science to the flat-Earth theory

[Nataya]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...l_green&wpmm=1

I don't know if I want to laugh or cry.

[JohnBrown1917]

Seems my city will be sitting on the new Dutch coast in a few decades.

[sarahtasher]

Its especially bad as ''flat earthers'' did not actually exist (except for an handful of fundies in the USA and/or several early cultures who likely used the expression as a metaphor). But since -500 BC, virtually anyone who bothered to write on the matter knew very well that the Earth was a sphere.

[Caolela]

That same "flat-Earth theory" that Exxon knew about since the 1970s - from their own scientific research - that they're being investigated for now by two U.S. state's AGs for lying about and covering up for decades?

That same Exxon whose CEO Trump has picked for a major position in his Cabinet?

[Trifle]

Fun fact, scientists never actually believed the earth was flat. So, yeah.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth

[Super Friendly Kitty Cat]

Meh, at the end of the day is there a difference between belief and action?

Obama did close to nothing on climate change.

If it is such a grave concern why so little action on it?

Sure he was able to party it up with Jay-Z, tell the world that if he had a son it would look like Trayvon Martin, send high ranking officials to both Trayvon Martin's and Michael Brown's funeral, golf games, etc, where was the push on climate change?

In the long term wouldn't climate change be more important than Obamacare?

In the long term wouldn't climate change be more important than the improvement of school lunches that was the cornerstone of Michelle's "achievement"?

People can piss and moan about random people who don't believe in climate change, but the real culprits are those that believe it and have done nothing about it.

[Trassk]

Fun fact, scientists never actually believed the earth was flat. So, yeah.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth

I dunno, what about creationist 'scientists', who also use 'science' to prove the world is 1000 years old.

[Matchles]

Meh, at the end of the day is there a difference between belief and action?

Obama did close to nothing on climate change.

Please do at least a little research before you start making claims as if they are true.

[stevenho]

Nobody really knows whether humans are affecting current climate changes (which are a fact).
There were ice ages and heat periods in earth history before there were more "humans" than wow players on earth.

[Fat Mac]

I dunno, what about creationist 'scientists', who also use 'science' to prove the world is 1000 years old.

the world is 6000 years old

[Garnier Fructis]

People can piss and moan about random people who don't believe in climate change, but the real culprits are those that believe it and have done nothing about it.

A republican legislature full of people who deny science prevent a president from achieving meaningful action on climate change.

And it's the democrats' fault. Yup, totally not the fault of the people who block action because they don't even think there's a problem.

[Matchles]

Nobody really knows whether humans are affecting current climate changes (which are a fact).
There were ice ages and heat periods in earth history before there were more "humans" than wow players on earth.

No, we do know humans are affecting the current changes. Those heating periods you are talking about happened over the course of a thousand years or so, not 50.

[Super Friendly Kitty Cat]

A republican legislature full of people who deny science prevent a president from achieving meaningful action on climate change.

And it's the democrats' fault. Yup, totally not the fault of the people who block action because they don't even think there's a problem.

Then he isn't a very good leader if he as President couldn't build a consensus.

[RaoBurning]

Nobody really knows whether humans are affecting current climate changes (which are a fact).
There were ice ages and heat periods in earth history before there were more "humans" than wow players on earth.

Basically everyone with the proper qualifications to answer that question has weighed in and the answer is "yes, Jesus Christ. Please stop now."

[JohnBrown1917]

People can piss and moan about random people who don't believe in climate change, but the real culprits are those that believe it and have done nothing about it.

Both are equally bad, don't kid yourself.

[Garnier Fructis]

Nobody really knows whether humans are affecting current climate changes (which are a fact).
There were ice ages and heat periods in earth history before there were more "humans" than wow players on earth.

We do know.

And seriously, climate changing without humans doesn't mean humans can't affect it. Things can have more than one cause, guys.

This sort of logic would imply that I can't cause a fruit to fall off a tree by hitting the tree, because gravity is known to cause fruit to fall off trees.

[JohnBrown1917]

Then he isn't a very good leader if he as President couldn't build a consensus.

Or maybe his opposition is filled with morons.

[chrisnumbers]

Even the Washington Post admits that he said this:
“I’m not suggesting that we’re not affecting the [climate] change — I honestly don’t know, I’m not a scientist.”
But you choose to ignore this quote, why?

Nothing about this article means anything as there are very few quotes with any real context. Anything outside of a quote doesn't mean anything because it's all interpretation.

[Matchles]

Then he isn't a very good leader if he as President couldn't build a consensus.

Yes, it is HIS fault. Not the party responsible for unprecedented obstruction and whose leader in the Senate was on record saying their only goal was to make Obama a one term president.

[Garnier Fructis]

Then he isn't a very good leader if he as President couldn't build a consensus.

He's not a good leader because he can't convince a crowd that decided they wanted to make him a one term president before he even assumed office? Seriously, stop blaming the people who actually try and start blaming the people who stop it from happening. Seriously, this is like McConnell levels of partisan drivel, like when he blamed Obama for the Congress overwriting... Obama's veto.

You all are shitting on Reagan's legacy, I hope you know. Because Reagan didn't deny environmental problems, he gave Republican solutions. The Republicans don't even give solutions now, they just deny that a problem exists and then shit on Democrat solutions.