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    These new AF1's were budgeted for $1.65 billion last year....Did the budget inflate by 350 million for both replacement planes to make this news worthy?

    The $1.65 billion budget for the next Air Force One is expected to grow, but significant delays may be a bigger concern than a cost overrun

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...-three/385037/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracos854 View Post

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-checking-trumps-4b-boeing-tweet-number-contract/story?id=44033643


    That said if Trump can actually get results on something like the F-35 program I will change my tune but so far all his "deals" have been smoke and mirrors.
    Get out of here with your biased facts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Friendly Kitty Cat View Post
    The current AFO planes are close to their 30 year life-span.

    http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...orce-ones.html
    Huh, interesting. Figured these things were updated/modernized regularly what with carrying the leader of the free world around in em lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    So before all the Trump supporters start wanking each other, can we get an article that isn't so light on facts and actual numbers?
    Too late, this thread is already sticky

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    Too late, this thread is already sticky
    Ew, gross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracos854 View Post
    Because the contract was never for 4 billion dollars.
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-force-one-bo/

    "So as a raw number, Trump’s $4 billion figure is in the ballpark."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    What you and Trump do behind closed doors is your business, but at least have enough self-respect to wipe your face off before you come back out.
    Stay classy Nixx lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    Too late, this thread is already sticky
    Not as sticky as Ben Garrison's room and r/The_donald, I bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    It was never going to cost $4B to build to begin with, so ok?
    Can't even give credit when it's due, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    What you and Trump do behind closed doors is your business, but at least have enough self-respect to wipe your face off before you come back out.
    Prime example of how NOT to win an argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Not as sticky as Ben Garrison's room and r/The_donald, I bet.
    You could swim in it in /the_donald

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickJamesLich View Post
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-force-one-bo/

    "So as a raw number, Trump’s $4 billion figure is in the ballpark."
    ballpark another word for WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    So before all the Trump supporters start wanking each other, can we get an article that isn't so light on facts and actual numbers?
    Trump supporters actually like women.

    I know it is difficult to think outside of your own life experiences and desires, but like I said Trump supporters like women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Friendly Kitty Cat View Post
    The current AFO planes are close to their 30 year life-span.

    http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...orce-ones.html
    Funny your own link shows them costing just under 2 billion. If you actually saw that you would know Trump was full of shit on this from the start. Good job Trump got Boeing to agree not to charge over 2 times what one costs.
    "Privilege is invisible to those who have it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    No, because there was no contract signed.

    Because the expected deal was around $3.7B anyways.

    Because said expected deal also included 12 years+ of maintenance and repair costs, not just costs for the two Air Force One jets.

    Trump lied about the $4B, plain and simple, so today's "news" is not news at all. It's literally nothing.
    With something like Air Force One, it's a very big possibility that the price can escalate over time, which is not an uncommon thing with these defense contracts. Trump got the final word here and said it's not going to happen. So Trump is in fact making sure that we are not over spending.... apparently to your dismay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Friendly Kitty Cat View Post
    Trump supporters actually like women.

    I know it is difficult to think outside of your own life experiences and desires, but like I said Trump supporters like women.
    Not sure what that has to do with anything, but sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Friendly Kitty Cat View Post
    Trump supporters actually like women.

    I know it is difficult to think outside of your own life experiences and desires, but like I said Trump supporters like women.
    Why do so many lesbians like Trump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickJamesLich View Post
    With something like Air Force One, it's a very big possibility that the price can escalate over time, which is not an uncommon thing with these defense contracts. Trump got the final word here and said it's not going to happen. So Trump is in fact making sure that we are not over spending.... apparently to your dismay.
    I got a bridge to sell you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickJamesLich View Post
    With something like Air Force One, it's a very big possibility that the price can escalate over time, which is not an uncommon thing with these defense contracts. Trump got the final word here and said it's not going to happen. So Trump is in fact making sure that we are not over spending.... apparently to your dismay.
    Possibility is not fact, the only reason Trump mentioned Boeing is because they talked badly about him and he felt the need to lash out. If he takes on Lockheed Martin and bring F-35 cost down then he would have my support at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickJamesLich View Post
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-force-one-bo/

    "So as a raw number, Trump’s $4 billion figure is in the ballpark."
    Which doesn't mean much of anything considering your own article states that the $3.2 billion was the projected procurement costs (for 2 planes) from a report made back in March. This also coincides with the Atlantic snippet I posted where the cost projected for one plane was $1.65 billion.

    I mean if we want to go gung-ho over the 100 million differential from the $3.2 projected in March and the $3.3 that was projected two months prior to make this sound like Trump did more good than he actually did by all means.

    This is like Carrier all over again. There was already an agreement in place and a price tag out there...Trump is trying to take credit for something someone else had already done.

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    Wasn't there something about the 4 billion number being unsupported with evidence? If so, then no shit they'll do it for less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Friendly Kitty Cat View Post
    Trump supporters actually like women.

    I know it is difficult to think outside of your own life experiences and desires, but like I said Trump supporters like women.
    Do women Trump supporters like women too

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