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  1. #421
    Quote Originally Posted by Enitzu View Post
    Won't argue this point at all. If nuclear war breaks out between super powers the world would be destroyed and uninhabitable. My point was simply that Russia is superior to us in all military view points.
    There not in all Military view points. They just got a few more nukes then as and I wasn't talking about if we both fire our nukes.


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  3. #423
    Quote Originally Posted by Teebone View Post
    Thing is, you're not that guy in saying this. He's a thin-skinned reactionary... your typical forum poster with a big e-dick and zero common sense. His complete lack of tact will get us in big trouble globally. NOBODY wants another war, but odds are we're going to have at least one.
    I'd like to see the Philippines President talk shit about Trump the way he did with Obama.

  4. #424
    former nuke officer.. he is right, our nuke forces kept the world at peace in terms of state vs state conflict (cold war anyone?) Nukes are the best deterrence weapons we have currently, and are rapidly aging beyond sustainable levels tech wise. Without details i'll say punch cards, magnetic 8 track tapes.. yeah, shits old, and overly expensive to fix if you can even find parts. Its time to update and expand the nuclear force with more modern systems, capabilities, and safety features.
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    And enter Putin.....

    Russian President Vladimir Putin gave a speech Thursday in which he praised his country's military operations on behalf of the government of Syria and made a case for how Russia could be stronger moving forward.

    “We need to strengthen the military potential of strategic nuclear forces,” he said, according to an Agence France-Presse translation, “especially with missile complexes that can reliably penetrate any existing and prospective missile defense systems.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.2c5213eed1ce

    Great minds think alike?(And they just aren't Trump or Putin)

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    didn t he said exact same thing at the first debate vs Hillary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyc View Post
    Of course it would. What is your point?

    My point is we have been told we were on the brink of nuclear war since before I was born. Yet, here we are without it ever having happened.
    It's just more fear-mongering from the same people that are supposed to inform the population, not spread BS propaganda that fits their agenda.
    I'm not saying a nuclear war will in fact happen but treating it like a boy who cried wolf is dangerous. We've given over the keys to everyone's destruction to a man who has questionable temperament. Stuff like this needs to be addressed and talked about and not hand waived away by "Oh we've been under threat of nukes forever, we'll be fine" or "Lol he doesn't really mean that". (not that you said the last quote there).

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    Yeah guys. I heard racism only exists within Republicans.
    When did anyone say there were no racists in the democratic party ranks? That's right never.

    Stop with the denialism. The democratic party abandoned racism with the civil rights era (which doesn't mean there are zero racists in the party), and the republican party collectively embraced it. The end result of that is clear -



    And that racism is still practiced and its what keeps those racists in the republican party.
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  9. #429
    Quote Originally Posted by pacox View Post
    There's only so much you can do with nukes than what we don't have or don't need and that's not what he has (or has even alluded to in the past). I'm not @Skroe but I am under the impression that the US is/has retrofitted its program and no one has better defense capabilities than the US, which we're constantly improving.
    Nope. USA still uses 30 yr old nuclear subs and 30 yr old planes to drop nukes. We are about 20 yrs behind Russia in Nuclear arms technology. Russia has the S-400 and new S-500 specifically to track and intercept multiple ICBM's or Cruise missiles. Russia's new Sarmat aka Satan 2 can penetrate any missile defense shield on the planet and the US knows this. Russia also has Perimiter aka "The Dead Mans Hand" which guarantees even if the Russian command is taken out all Nukes will be launched regardless. This being said nobodys gonna shoot nukes at eachother.

  10. #430
    Quote Originally Posted by Dugraka View Post
    In what way, dude? You're basing this all of of them having more nukes then the USA and your entire argument about military superiority is quantity > quality. And even if you just want to go with quantity their navy is laughably outdated.
    As someone who spent 6 years in a Marine Corp special forces unit, quality can only overcome certain instances. If your unit of 50 faces an army of 200 the odds are not in your favor no matter how much training you have. Yes we are better trained. Yes we have superior tactics, well superior to all those we have faced to this point. But we have also been training Russian soldiers for decades so to say that we are so much better isn't as big a difference as most would think.

    We would win at sea, we may even win in the air, but the ground would be a whole nother story. It would be the greatest loss of life the world has ever known.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superblink View Post
    didn t he said exact same thing at the first debate vs Hillary
    Yeah, but at the time we laughed it off because most people thought he wasn't going to win, including Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dextersmith View Post
    I'd like to see the Philippines President talk shit about Trump the way he did with Obama.
    Nobody has taken that crackpot seriously for years.

  13. #433
    Quote Originally Posted by cuafpr View Post
    former nuke officer.. he is right, our nuke forces kept the world at peace in terms of state vs state conflict (cold war anyone?) Nukes are the best deterrence weapons we have currently, and are rapidly aging beyond sustainable levels tech wise. Without details i'll say punch cards, magnetic 8 track tapes.. yeah, shits old, and overly expensive to fix if you can even find parts. Its time to update and expand the nuclear force with more modern systems, capabilities, and safety features.
    I am fine with updating our logistics systems I am just saying we don't need to increase our payload from say 5k to 10k. We already have enough to blow ourselves up 5 times over. Instead of buying new nukes use that capital in modernizing our logistic systems so we can move away from those floppy disks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enitzu View Post
    As someone who spent 6 years in a Marine Corp special forces unit, quality can only overcome certain instances. If your unit of 50 faces an army of 200 the odds are not in your favor no matter how much training you have. Yes we are better trained. Yes we have superior tactics, well superior to all those we have faced to this point. But we have also been training Russian soldiers for decades so to say that we are so much better isn't as big a difference as most would think.

    We would win at sea, we may even win in the air, but the ground would be a whole nother story. It would be the greatest loss of life the world has ever known.
    I mean if it came to that quantity > quality does matter to a certain point but if the Navy and Air Force are efficient enough we may not even need troops on the ground.

  15. #435
    Quote Originally Posted by Dugraka View Post
    I mean if it came to that quantity > quality does matter to a certain point but if the Navy and Air Force are efficient enough we may not even need troops on the ground.
    I assume our military leaders are starter than to attack Russia head-on because they do have superior Mobile Armor/Artillery. The funny thing is unless the Russians have air superiority that point is moot if the United States can just call in strategically placed air strikes on these high priority targets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dextersmith View Post
    I'd like to see the Philippines President talk shit about Trump the way he did with Obama.
    Why would he do that? He only talks shit to shitty people.

  17. #437
    Quote Originally Posted by Dugraka View Post
    I mean if it came to that quantity > quality does matter to a certain point but if the Navy and Air Force are efficient enough we may not even need troops on the ground.
    You always need troops on the ground. Air and Sea superiority have never won a war by themselves.

  18. #438
    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Ya had to pull a more updated link.
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/fa...o-they-n548481

    Russia has about 400 more then us. WE STILL HAVE ENOUGH TO KILL THE PLANET 10X OVER. That is the part you clearly don't understand. It doesn't matter if Russa has 1 million nukes and we have 7000. Our 7000 can still kill the fucken planet.

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  19. #439
    Quote Originally Posted by Dugraka View Post
    Dude actually asked "Why can't we use nukes?" in handling the ME..
    Lot of people been asking that question for a lonnnnnng time. Seems it might be the only way to put an end to centuries of conflict stemming from that region and the people that come from it.
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    Don't they already have enough to destroy the entire planet and then some? What's the fucking point?

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