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    Shadowmeld in sub rotation

    Hi, a new rogue here! I was planning to main a sub rogue for pve and i cant decide between going human or nelf. I usually pick human for anything I create cause emfh is nice to have. But for rogues, the nelf racials look so nice, specially shadowmeld. I think human is the go to race in pvp, but im not sure about pve...

    My question is: Is shadowmeld used in the sub rogue rotation? Does it have a great impact in pve or pvp? What about the other specs?

    I know racials dont have such an impact in dps, but if it changes the rotation (of the sub rogue in this case), i would like to know. Thank you for your time and happy new year! :D

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    By the way, doesn't meld proc Subterfuge regardless?

    No, it doesn't. Nor Master of Subtlety.
    I would say it's rather worthless, unless it was changed again.

    Best way to test it would be doing a trial character, if only Sub was available though.

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    in pve it's basically a free symbols, which is good

    altough if you're set on raiding sub i'd say go for gnome that extra 6 energy basically enables the spec to function without legendaries/arcway necks etc

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    In 7.1 : You can only Shadowstrike while Smelded.
    In 7.1.5 : You can Shadowstrike AND/OR Symbols of Death while Smelded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aethys256 View Post
    In 7.1 : You can only Shadowstrike while Smelded.
    In 7.1.5 : You can Shadowstrike AND/OR Symbols of Death while Smelded.
    Guessing SoD doesn't break Shadowmeld in 7.1.5?

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    SoD never break anything, it's just castable in 7.1.5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aethys256 View Post
    SoD never break anything, it's just castable in 7.1.5.
    That does make more sense. I assumed it would be already considering Shadowstrike is usable on live from what you said, so figured it'd break it somehow.

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    It it possible to shadowmeld and then stealth (macroed?) in order to proc subterfuge?

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