New Players Catch Up

[Sierra85]

the hearthstone team should create a new PvE adventure, primarily for new accounts. A series of bosses (using existing tavern brawls & adventure boss mechanics) that teachers players some more aspects of the game and rewards players all the basic cards & gives those new players a bunch more content.

they can continually update the rewards for this new player adventure so that as expansions go on new people can come into the game and still do OK.

[Deleted]

the hearthstone team should create a new PvE adventure, primarily for new accounts. A series of bosses (using existing tavern brawls & adventure boss mechanics) that teachers players some more aspects of the game and rewards players all the basic cards & gives those new players a bunch more content.

they can continually update the rewards for this new player adventure so that as expansions go on new people can come into the game and still do OK.

I doubt that will ever happen; adventures take a long time to make and it's wasteful if only part of the player base will get any benefit from it. Besides, there already is something like that. You can practice against the AI at any time, and you can pick any class as your opponent, with varied deck types, depending on the class.

[Tenris]

I think they should give you adventure from the last standard year for free, so if people join now they will get karazhan for free, that way it lets people get lots of current new cards and get better from playing against the adventure bosses. Something is definitely needed though, Kripp made a video on it the other day because new players get barely anything in this game compared to other card games and it will certainly put new players off when they get owned by pirate warrior at rank 20.

[Chingylol]

I think they should give you adventure from the last standard year for free, so if people join now they will get karazhan for free, that way it lets people get lots of current new cards and get better from playing against the adventure bosses. Something is definitely needed though, Kripp made a video on it the other day because new players get barely anything in this game compared to other card games and it will certainly put new players off when they get owned by pirate warrior at rank 20.

I think Blizz has an algorithm they use for new players in unranked. I didn't start playing HS til about a year ago, and didn't buy any cards until about a month after playing. I think they match new players up with new players, or match them up by how many cards they have or have purchased. I can't remember anyone pulling out legendaries at all the first month I played now that I look back at it. It wasn't until I bought a bunch of packs that I started playing others with good cards.

But yeah, they should make special quests at least for new players to give them extra packs for the current xpac.

[Usagi Senshi]

I started up Shadowverse the other day and got 60+ free packs (three different expansions worth) of cards. That is pretty phenomenal for a new player and I even spent $20 on top.

I pretty much agree with Kripp in his videos concerning the same shit, Blizzard is just too stingy.

[Deleted]

I pretty much agree with Kripp in his videos concerning the same shit, Blizzard is just too stingy.

Blizzard is too stingy because they don't just hand you 60+ card packs?

[Pantalaimon]

Blizzard is too stingy because they don't just hand you 60+ card packs?

No, but Blizzard is certainly stingy in other areas of the game that I really don't think need to be quite so stingy. I don't know anyone who would praise the crap system they have setup for dusting cards. Dusting a legendary gives you the return equivalent to the fourth of a legendary? An epic only allows you to craft a rare of your choice? Certainly stingy in that regard. Unless you were great at arena why in the hell would you seriously want to dust almost any card when you get pittance in return.

[Usagi Senshi]

Blizzard is too stingy because they don't just hand you 60+ card packs?

No one was asking for 60+ packs but yes, they are definitely stingy in the new players area.

There is no defending Blizzard in this situation I'm afraid.

[Deleted]

No, but Blizzard is certainly stingy in other areas of the game that I really don't think need to be quite so stingy. I don't know anyone who would praise the crap system they have setup for dusting cards. Dusting a legendary gives you the return equivalent to the fourth of a legendary? An epic only allows you to craft a rare of your choice? Certainly stingy in that regard. Unless you were great at arena why in the hell would you seriously want to dust almost any card when you get pittance in return.

I dust stuff all the time, especially at the beginning of a new expansion when I go through lots of cards that I know I'm not using and just turn them into cards I do want to use. At this point I even have a list of specific cards that I usually end up dusting because they are cards I never, ever use, and yet accumulate over the course of an expansion. Golden cards in particular are always on my radar, because of the improved quality to dust ratio.

I admit they could probably improve the ratio a little, like for epics and legendaries but it's a slippery slope, where it is easy to make it too good. And honestly while I occasionally lament that the odd legendary won't give me as much dust as I'd like, it has still worked out pretty well. I rarely have a major issue getting the cards I want.

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No one was asking for 60+ packs but yes, they are definitely stingy in the new players area.

There is no defending Blizzard in this situation I'm afraid.

What precisely are you asking for then? Be specific or you don't even have a case to defend against in the first place. If anything the whole thing is already smelling suspicious when you say they are only stingy against new players, as if you were saying older players somehow have an easier time acquiring cards.

[Usagi Senshi]

Don't know whats hard to understand after my last two replies in this thread: a few more free card packs overall, especially to a newer player.

Seriously, I needed to clarify that?

Also I sunk about $400+ into the game and have almost all of the cards but more free bonus packs is always welcome overall.

[Deleted]

Don't know whats hard to understand after my last two replies in this thread: a few more free card packs overall, especially to a newer player.

Seriously, I needed to clarify that?

Considering you've gone from 60+ to a few, then yes, seems prudent that you clarify since you seem unable to produce an exact figure, and why you think it will help in the first place. You already get free packs when you start playing hearthstone, and considering how many cards the game already has, I dare say "a few" more won't make a huge difference.

That is like saying giving 20$ to a homeless person is going to significantly improve his lifestyle.

Also I sunk about $400+ into the game and have almost all of the cards but more free bonus packs is always welcome overall.

Nobody cares... The amount of money you have sunk into the game or how many cards you own is not going to improve your argument.

[Deleted]

Hearthstone has given maybe 30, 40 packs out total with all the promotions if you've been playing from the start. Could be less. He's not talking about established players here, this isn't such an issue with standard and wild split, different games and shiggydiggy Blizzard.

[HisDudeness]

It's a digital game. The cards are already made. What is wrong with giving away 60packs to new players? It costs them absolutely nothing and potentially brings in newer players to buy new packs. Danny, you are only arguing this for the sake of argument. Its like your mad that you got all these cards by playing for a while and mad a newbie can come in and get them. Who cares?

[Deleted]

Danny, you are only arguing this for the sake of argument. Its like your mad that you got all these cards by playing for a while and mad a newbie can come in and get them.

Ohh yes, I'm just a big meanie who doesn't like new players

[ComputerNerd]

It's a digital game. The cards are already made. What is wrong with giving away 60packs to new players? It costs them absolutely nothing and potentially brings in newer players to buy new packs. Danny, you are only arguing this for the sake of argument. Its like your mad that you got all these cards by playing for a while and mad a newbie can come in and get them. Who cares?

That is just an arbitrary figure.
Why is x amount stingy, and y amount generous.
It is just a fabrication to justify bashing them.

It is ONE example.
That does not make a trend or proof.

[Usagi Senshi]

Hearthstone has given maybe 30, 40 packs out total with all the promotions if you've been playing from the start. Could be less. He's not talking about established players here, this isn't such an issue with standard and wild split, different games and shiggydiggy Blizzard.

This was exactly what I was talking about, thank you for understanding! Whatever though, I'm not going to argue with ignorance on an issue many players agree with.

[Aeula]

They have one for returning players called 'return of the hero'. They forced me through it after I logged on a few months back.

[Ravex]

Hey look, more people wanting things for free. How new and exciting.

[Pantalaimon]

Hey look, more people wanting things for free. How new and exciting.

Regardless of how you view people getting things for free it would be nothing short of idiotic for a company for profit not offering any incentives for new players.

The vast majority of players in any type of game genre don't want to be purposefully discouraged from trying it out due to blatant massive disadvantages from the get go.

[Blueobelisk]

The vast majority of players in any type of game genre don't want to be purposefully discouraged from trying it out due to blatant massive disadvantages from the get go.

>Be new to HS.
>Watch a tutorial of how to play by Trump or Kripp.
>"Alright, I see how this Renolock works. I bet I could get to rank 1 with this. Shit looks easy. I'm kinda excited."
>Log in to game.
>Have none of the cards.
>"Well, I guess I can spend $20 to build the deck...."
>$20 gets you packs full of random junk.
>Dust doesn't even come close to building a Renolock deck.
>You can't even build a welfare deck with the cards you got.
>Microtransaction scam.

Sounds about right. I think it's pretty wrong a new player can be willing to spend $20 on the game and not even get the deck they want. That's why Blizzard needs to give out free cards so you can at least make SOME not-garbage decks with the random trash cards you get from packs.