Trump finally accepts it was the Russians doing the hacking.

[Deleted]

Russia didn't take down the fucking pentagon here, they used phishing scams on morons at the DNC.

Not that different from Reagan hiring sci-fi writers to bring down the Soviet Union. Putin learned well.

[Lenonis]

You are not very good at arguing or using logic. With your logic it would be immoral for any nation to aid North Koreans by showing them their country is brianwashing and lying to them. After all, that would be a foreign power influencing a sovereign nation.

Or what if Iraq was about to elect another Hussein? Would it be immoral for a foreign power to expose the candidate to the Iraqi people?

*insults by claiming inability to use logic*

*lays out hyperbolic "what if" scenarios*

Hmmmmmmmmmmm....

[Paranoid Android]

Isn't that what his avatar is?

I believe that is an actual pic of himself

[Oneirophobia]

So if Trump says Russians influenced stuff, does this mean we have to start saying they didn't influence stuff?

[Lenonis]

Well, aren't you cheeky.

As long as people put party over country -- yes.

[Super Friendly Kitty Cat]

That wasn't his password though
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...s-password-la/

Wait, so politifact is saying there is "no material evidence" that shows Podesta's e-mail password was "Password", and they refuse to believe Assange is telling the truth.

So I guess since there is "no material evidence" presented about Russia "hacking" America than it didn't happen then right?

Also, politicfact.com has been widely debunked as a clearinghouse for liberal ideology and propaganda by simply stating their "truths" even when the facts can't be fact checked.

[ujx]

Should we conclude that you have a neckbeard, two (or three) chins, and wear stupid hats?

If you like. I would rather you argue the content of the post unless it's a low quality shit post like the one I was responding to.

[Machismo]

Wait, so politifact is saying there is "no material evidence" that shows Podesta's e-mail password was "Password", and they refuse to believe Assange is telling the truth.

So I guess since there is "no material evidence" presented about Russia "hacking" America than it didn't happen then right?

Also, politicfact.com has been widely debunked as a clearinghouse for liberal ideology and propaganda by simply stating their "truths" even when the facts can't be fact checked.

Then feel free to show material evidence demonstrating that was his actual password.

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If you like. I would rather you argue the content of the post unless it's a low quality shit post like the one I was responding to.

You were the one who made the comment, I was simply turning it around on you. You just argued against yourself... and lost.

I have no problem talking about issues. You were the one who tried to go for a personal attack on some random dude on the internet. People with idiotic avatars shouldn't throw stones. It's in the Bible, look it up.

[ujx]

*insults by claiming inability to use logic*

*lays out hyperbolic "what if" scenarios*

Hmmmmmmmmmmm....

I fail to see where my logic was flawed. I gave scenarios in which your rationale is hypocritical.

[Super Kami Dende]

>People still think that the Russian hacking influenced the actual Results in any meaningful way.
>People still think that the many Rural States that Voted Trump were influenced by the Internet and Russians
>People still think that Russia influencing Elections is deplorable yet completely disregard that America does it blatantly and publicly all the time.

Ahhh yes, lets start a new Cold War because people are upset Trump won.

[Bloodbourne]

You mean the 50% of Democrats who think Russia literally hacked into the election because that was the narrative set by CNN for a month?
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I am not hearing that at all on CNN. I did hear something like that on MSNBC but they corrected themselves in the same program. I mainly hear Fox claiming Dems believe this and moved the discussion to focus exclusively on this non-issue. Just spend 30 seconds looking at comments on Fox News website regarding cyber security and it's all anyone can talk about. Just a diversion. Even if there are 50% of the Dems that do believe this, the other 50% are pretty clear that there isn't a hack into election systems.

[Machismo]

>People still think that the Russian hacking influenced the actual Results in any meaningful way.
>People still think that the many Rural States that Voted Trump were influenced by the Internet and Russians
>People still think that Russia influencing Elections is deplorable yet completely disregard that America does it blatantly and publicly all the time.

Ahhh yes, lets start a new Cold War because people are upset Trump won.

People still think Trump isn't a misogynistic asshat.
People still believe all the lies Trump tells, no matter how much evidence is against him.
People care more about winning, than being logically consistent.

This is fun.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

1. Trump claims the Russians are behind it, but didn't admit it was ordered by the state party. It may very well be, but for now, we don't know.

2. He alleges the DNC -- Not Podesta's - e-mails were hacked from Russian actors.

3. The content of the e-mails is considered genuine, meaning we can definitely split the question of the origin and the content in two separate categories, from which both are important in their own ways.

A lot remains, but Russia implications seems more likely by the minute. Should actions be taken against Russia if that is so? I believe so, yes.

[Lenonis]

I fail to see where my logic was flawed. I gave scenarios in which your rationale is hypocritical.

Shame I wasn't talking about a hypothetical scenario but a real one.

[ujx]

Shame I wasn't talking about a hypothetical scenario but a real one.

What's the difference? If you take a stance against the real scenario then logically your stance will be the same with the hypothetical and vice versa. If you take the same stance then you alteast have integrity but you are a coward. If you flip-flop you have a brain but are a hypocrite. This is what happens when you cherry pick your ideology to only benefit yourself.

[alexw]

What's amazing is you let the words of known liars convince you without showing any actual evidence. Good going, chump.

No. I'm not a Trump supporter. He hasn't convinced me of anything. I saw through his lies immediately.

I mean come on, really, how can any intelligent person believe those lies of his when his ability to lie is like that of a 5 year old?

[Bloodbourne]

Stop it. We're not bombing the Kremlin.

Ignore the attack? Aren't conservatives supposed to be hawkish? Could we at least try to defend ourselves against future attacks? We can't if we don't acknowledge that we (not just Dems- US businesses and our financial institutions) are under attack and it is getting worse. What will it take to come to the realization that we are in imminent danger of larger and more serious threats? A trillion dollars a year in loss? What happens when they destroy electrical grids, throw satellites out of orbit, hit the MMO Champion sever! (oh no!)
I agree a bomb isn't going to fix anything. My point is we need to modernize and understand this is a new kind of war and conventional weapons are as effective as fighting terrorism with nukes.
Again. Election results are irrelevant. Security is everything and these attacks should not be ignored.

[primalmatter]

Can a mod fix the title?

It is triggering me every time I see it on the topic section.

[Deathcries]

>People still think that the Russian hacking influenced the actual Results in any meaningful way.
>People still think that the many Rural States that Voted Trump were influenced by the Internet and Russians
>People still think that Russia influencing Elections is deplorable yet completely disregard that America does it blatantly and publicly all the time.

Ahhh yes, lets start a new Cold War because people are upset Trump won.

It's expected. The butt hurt is glorious.

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Ignore the attack? Aren't conservatives supposed to be hawkish? Could we at least try to defend ourselves against future attacks? We can't if we don't acknowledge that we (not just Dems- US businesses and our financial institutions) are under attack and it is getting worse. What will it take to come to the realization that we are in imminent danger of larger and more serious threats? A trillion dollars a year in loss? What happens when they destroy electrical grids, throw satellites out of orbit, hit the MMO Champion sever! (oh no!)
I agree a bomb isn't going to fix anything. My point is we need to modernize and understand this is a new kind of war and conventional weapons are as effective as fighting terrorism with nukes.
Again. Election results are irrelevant. Security is everything and these attacks should not be ignored.

I think you're thinking of Hillary. As Putin said, she was trying to start WW3. Thank God we avoided that catastrophe. Be glad all you're going to be for the next 8 years is butt hurt, and still alive.

[Independent voter]

Ignore the attack? Aren't conservatives supposed to be hawkish? Could we at least try to defend ourselves against future attacks? We can't if we don't acknowledge that we (not just Dems- US businesses and our financial institutions) are under attack and it is getting worse. What will it take to come to the realization that we are in imminent danger of larger and more serious threats? A trillion dollars a year in loss? What happens when they destroy electrical grids, throw satellites out of orbit, hit the MMO Champion sever! (oh no!)
I agree a bomb isn't going to fix anything. My point is we need to modernize and understand this is a new kind of war and conventional weapons are as effective as fighting terrorism with nukes.
Again. Election results are irrelevant. Security is everything and these attacks should not be ignored.

That's the big worry, Trump and the Trumpinistas will brush the Russian hacking of our democratic process under the rug and we will be unprepared and unable to defend ourselves from the next Russian hack.