Meryl Streep's Golden Globes Speech

[Jester Joe]

Not to mention there's still a gigantic gap between being against safe spaces and other similar nonsense and Trump. Besides, I'm not sure how Trump is a valid choice for Americans that are tired of safe spaces (Trump would turn the whole US and Internet for a safe space for him if he could), fake outrage (OK, not certain on the fake aspect, but say a word about the length of his fingers and your next POTUS will have a meltdown) or being talked down to (then again I guess it doesn't matter when Trump talks down to someone because he does it to those other Americans).

This just reminds me of the whole Pence theater thing that happened, where Trump flat out said the theater should be a safe space.

In fact ~10mil more people voted against Trump than didn't. 73.6m vs 63m - hardly a mandate. Also, his electoral college spread ranks 46th out of 54 elections - a very low margin of victory

And there's the numbers to back it up.
It wasn't some landslide popularity win, and he certainly isn't what all Americans want, otherwise we wouldn't be here discussing this.

[Haloswin]

I applaud Ms Streep for her speech at the golden globes, , you could tell it was from the heart and with a lot of passion behind it.
The world needs more people standing up to that psychopathic megalomaniac.
What is more telling, is that instead of doing something about the way he is perceived, he instantly went on an attack on Twitter about her abilities as an actress.
Dear trump, you cannot run an entire nation in under 140 characters, delete your account already.
Oh and before I get "typical Hillary supporter" never supported her, just wouldn't support this tango reject either

Her contempt for football and MMA was pretty evident too. She was all for championing diversity but not when it's something beneath her lofty status of "the arts" I guess.

Honestly, her statement seemed hollow when she looked down her nose at others -- and sorry but she did.

[Paranoid Android]

Don't worry you had these two who hated Meryl's speech.



Gibson, an Anti-Semite and Vaugh, the person who killed True Detective

I also saw tweets championing these two. You can have Mel Gibson.

https://twitter.com/JacobEngels/stat...15302232588290

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This just reminds me of the whole Pence theater thing that happened, where Trump flat out said the theater should be a safe space.



And there's the numbers to back it up.
It wasn't some landslide popularity win, and he certainly isn't what all Americans want, otherwise we wouldn't be here discussing this.

This is what liberals don't understand.

The electoral college is in place for a good reason. Not because our founders were idiots, but because they didn't want to repeat revolution over the same exact thing that caused the first one. You see, America, which was a minority rural population compared to the rest of the British Empire had practically no voice. Why? Because the British in more populated areas controlled everything because there was more of them. At this time the British Empire was already a constitutional monarchy, meaning the people had a voice. So you see, the rest of the Brits decided that they were going to tax the Americans excessively, despite our protests. They decided that we would have to give up our homes, our weapons, our free speech, ect ect. That's what the majority decided for us. This led to revolution. It led to all of us rural Brits revolting and winning our independence.

So, when our Government was created, it was created in a way that the extremely large minority (rural) that was a few percentage points less than the majority (city people) would still have a strong voice. Otherwise, we'd all revolt and form a new Government that we would atleast have a say over. The electoral college forces a Presidential candidate to get a consensus, to win over people from the other side, which in the end leads to balance/not as many revolts.

[Zyster]

Same tired argument can be made about republicans and all the babies that will be a result of making abortion illegal. Last time i looked there was exactly 2 members of the senate whom even adopted a kid.


Notice how none of these republicans/conservatives.....etc etc etc


i would also gander they gave more money to charity then your average, say, president elect has......and the records confirm this. Trump spends his charity money on stuff for his house and to pay off lawsuits.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/edwindur.../#27e86f9e3e44

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/0...a-biden-081529

The reason I link this is because of this misconception wealthy republicans supposedly can't be charitable. Republicans are typically criticized harshly on this fake notion. Yet one of the most charitable POTUS canidates, and possible out of all POTUS was criticized on this because republican. I'm not necessarily stating what you are saying about these senators as false. Just pointing out how republicans in fact do care about people when you feel they don't because they won't give away all their money to you. It's also a lot easy to give away marginal amounts of money when all you do is campaign on that. This will inevitably lead into a conversation though not only off topic, but iirc against forum rules. So probably won't continue this one further.

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Don't worry you had these two who hated Meryl's speech.



Gibson, an Anti-Semite and Vaugh, the person who killed True Detective

I also saw tweets championing these two. You can have Mel Gibson.

https://twitter.com/JacobEngels/stat...15302232588290

"LOOK! THEY DON'T AGREE!!!! KICK THEM OUT" -Liberals

[Zyster]

Don't worry you had these two who hated Meryl's speech.



Gibson, an Anti-Semite and Vaugh, the person who killed True Detective

I also saw tweets championing these two. You can have Mel Gibson.

https://twitter.com/JacobEngels/stat...15302232588290

Where is the public outrage from these two after this event demeaning Meryl?

[Jester Joe]

This is what liberals don't understand.

The electoral college is in place for a good reason.

Stopped reading there honestly.
You clearly didn't bother to read my point.

For "Americans" voting for Trump, it's kind of strange that he didn't win the popular vote.

I'm not saying the popular vote should have decided, I'm just saying you can't claim "Americans" are tired of something if he lost the popular vote.

[evilcast]

The fuck does the bolded have anything to do with what I said? I swear, you people have like some kind of roulette machine that you spin whenever anybody criticizes your Glorious Leader and you just fart out the most nonsensical answer to any kind of comment. You do realize you can't just dismiss any criticism with "HURR HE WON GET OVER IT LUBURLS!" for the next 4 years, right?

So celebrities aren't allowed now to have an opinion? Or is it only if they fall in line with your ideology? You should go tell Trump he shouldn't have been throwing tantrums about every little issue during the 2008 and 2012 elections, then.

Conservatives are hilarious. They'll throw shittons of money at celebrities who pander to them, like lulzy Ted Nugent, but then turn around and throw a fit when somebody makes a reasonable claim like, I donno, one of the two possible people who will run our country not mocking a disabled person for asking a question they didn't like.

Oh the hypocrisy and the irony in this post is insane lol

[Paranoid Android]

Where is the public outrage from these two after this event demeaning Meryl?

One last time. You can have Mel Gibson.

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/edwindur.../#27e86f9e3e44

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/0...a-biden-081529

The reason I link this is because of this misconception wealthy republicans supposedly can't be charitable. Republicans are typically criticized harshly on this fake notion. Yet one of the most charitable POTUS canidates, and possible out of all POTUS was criticized on this because republican. I'm not necessarily stating what you are saying about these senators as false. Just pointing out how republicans in fact do care about people when you feel they don't because they won't give away all their money to you. It's also a lot easy to give away marginal amounts of money when all you do is campaign on that. This will inevitably lead into a conversation though not only off topic, but iirc against forum rules. So probably won't continue this one further.

But who cares? It's their money. I don't care how they spend their money. If someone wants to give away all their money to charity then go ahead, just don't tell other people that they have to care about your charity case.

[Zyster]

One last time. You can have Mel Gibson.

I don't want him though .

[Haloswin]

lolol Gavin McInnes. You might as well have linked Alex Jones. Also kudos to your "accuse the other side of what I'm actually doing" approach here.

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Irony overload.

To be fair -- he linked McInnes responding to Bill Maher ... Pretty much a tit for a tat there.... One ideologue going after another.

[Paranoid Android]

Oh the hypocrisy and the irony in this post is insane lol

How? Libs don't say shit about celebrities who support conservatives. Well, namely because they have C List celebs.

[Zyster]

But who cares? It's their money. I don't care how they spend their money. If someone wants to give away all their money to charity then go ahead, just don't tell other people that they have to care about your charity case.

That wasn't the intention of my post at all. I don't care what people do or don't do with their money. Just simply denying this mentality that all wealthy Republicans do nothing for anyone.

[Deleted]

Stopped reading there honestly.
You clearly didn't bother to read my point.

No, I read it. You guys just keep bringing it up, so I thought you might need a refresher! I know I forgot to put tl;dr. SO...

tl;dr: Stop complaining about popular vote, it was extremely intentional and a great idea to not be controlled by popular mob vote

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That wasn't the intention of my post at all. I don't care what people do or don't do with their money. Just simply denying this mentality that all wealthy Republicans do nothing for anyone.

I know, but why argue it? It doesn't matter what they do with their money

[Tinykong]

"How dare a celebrity use a platform to push their agenda."

-Donald Trump voter

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im not a fan of trump, but these hollywood luvvies really should stfu.
theyve long forgotten what real life is about or how the average man/woman on the street even lives.
we have the same problem this side of the pond, theyre all arseholes who have no idea.

[Paranoid Android]

"How dare a celebrity use a platform to push their agenda."

-Donald Trump voter

How dare you call Donald Trump a celebrity!

[alexw]

Just to correct some misinformation. Obamas approval rating a month before going into office hit 53%, not ~70%. Bush Jr looked to be at roughly 55% before entering (had a harder time for some reason finding the exact % of this so gauged of some graphs). That doesn't help Trump, just stating that if we are going to compare, might as use an accurate time line for all individuals. Better yet, if we are going to compare accurate values to Obamas HIGH of 70% (he left at 55%). Bush jr hit a high of 90%.

????

I'm comparing initial approval ratings only. And your data is flat our wrong. Obama's approval rating was ~70%. You are not visiting some nutjob website like the dailycaller for your information are you?