[Megathread] E3 2017

[Rudol Von Stroheim]

I'm off to bed but man am I going to have some weird dreams tonight.

[Immitis]

its still going

[Rudol Von Stroheim]

I had to check but... apparently 'Genital Jousting' is a real thing they're developing.

Digital Revolver

[Edge-]

So catching up on Bethesda...

A buncha VR bullshit
Some Dishonored stand-alone DLC
More TCG shit
ESO DLC
More about a 6 year old RPG
MOTHER FUCKING WOLFENSTEIN YEAH BOI
Oh hey, that horror game they made is getting a sequel
Some Quake and shit I guess

Did I miss anything?

[draykorinee]

I'm glad I'm missing half of this, seems really underwhelming.

[Immitis]

theyre beating a man on e3 live

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I'm glad I'm missing half of this, seems really underwhelming.

you're missing what is possibly the greatest e3 ever created right now

[derpkitteh]

I had to check but... apparently 'Genital Jousting' is a real thing they're developing.

Digital Revolver

i think i'm truly in love.

[Cosmic Janitor]

No TES game again .. I guess the franchise really did die in a shitty MMO after all.

A bit of Dishonored might be nice, but seriously nothing in the two franchises I care the most about: TES and FO.
They can also fuck off with their 100th micro-tweak of Skyrim. I'm done with that game and so schould they.

[Immitis]

im not sure if this is scripted or not

[Edge-]

No TES game again .. I guess the franchise really did die in a shitty MMO after all.

That "shitty MMO" is making Bethesda all kinds of money nowadays. It's more than recovered from its initial launch problems. The only reason there's not another ES games is because Bethesda has plenty on their plate as it is. If they want to make another, the only thing stopping them is themselves.

[Cosmic Janitor]

I don't care how much profit they make off ESO, it's an MMO and therfore an inferior experience to what I'm looking for in a TES game.

[Edge-]

I don't care how much profit they make off ESO, it's an MMO and therfore an inferior experience to what I'm looking for in a TES game.

That's fine, you may not like it but it's far from a shitty MMO and there's zero indication that it did any longterm damage to the franchise, much less killed it.

[stellvia]

That "shitty MMO" is making Bethesda all kinds of money nowadays. It's more than recovered from its initial launch problems. The only reason there's not another ES games is because Bethesda has plenty on their plate as it is. If they want to make another, the only thing stopping them is themselves.

I tried the beta, and as I expected, it just wasn't what I look for in an MMO. The clunky TES controls are acceptable in a single-player game, but the combat system is just not at all conducive to an MMO experience. Especially with how you're supposed to be The Dude™ but then so is everyone else in your group, except you just have to hand-wave that and pretend you're the only Dude™ in the group and everyone else is some random Arrow-in-the-Knee merc.

It's too bad that Blade and Soul had to have such terrible support from NCsoft, because that has some of the best action-combat in any MMO I've played. The only thing missing is I wish it had the blocking mechanics from TERA.

[Edge-]

I tried the beta, and as I expected, it just wasn't what I look for in an MMO. The clunky TES controls are acceptable in a single-player game, but the combat system is just not at all conducive to an MMO experience. Especially with how you're supposed to be The Dude™ but then so is everyone else in your group, except you just have to hand-wave that and pretend you're the only Dude™ in the group and everyone else is some random Arrow-in-the-Knee merc.

Never much gave a fuck about "muh emershion" and have been completely ignoring the story in ESO, so hasn't bothered me in the slightest.

As to the beta, that was years ago and you're right, it was pretty shit. The game has improved by leaps and bounds since then. The combat is still being pretty shit (though apparently still better than Skyrim, no clue since I've not played it) compared to other proper action combat systems, but it's really "filled out" well as a MMO. Zenimax did a ton of work on it in that first year and it showed.

[Cosmic Janitor]

That's fine, you may not like it but it's far from a shitty MMO and there's zero indication that it did any longterm damage to the franchise, much less killed it.

If they refuse to make a new one because they already have a TES game then that's just like the experience of those players that wanted another WC game back in the day (I'm not one of them) as an RTS. For all intents and purposes the frachise died to those in a ditch labeled World of Warcraft.

And the shitty part was because MMOs are inherently inferior experiences with lower content quality and what not.

[I Push Buttons]

If they refuse to make a new one because they already have a TES game then that's just like the experience of those players that wanted another WC game back in the day (I'm not one of them) as an RTS. For all intents and purposes the frachise died to those in a ditch labeled World of Warcraft.

And the shitty part was because MMOs are inherently inferior experiences with lower content quality and what not.

Only they aren't refusing to make a new one because of ESO. By all accounts they have been making TES6 for years.

You realize that two entirely different studios make these games, right? Its not like "Bethesda" is tide up maintaining ESO... ESO was made by an entirely independent studio called Zenimax Online Studios that was created out of thin air to make that game in particular. Bethesda Game Studios, the developer of ES and Fallout games, has and will continue to make those games...

[Immitis]

Yeah elder scrolls 6 has probably been in some form of development since Skyrim ended and probably went into full swing after fallout 4 ended it just takes a long fucking time for these games

[derpkitteh]

they claimed to not currently have the tech for what they want to do with it.

i'm honestly hoping that's true, because that leads me to believe they're wanting to set it during a new great war and actually have it feel like a war, with massive battlefields instead of skyrims "15 guys in a fort" crap.

you see the same issue in fallout 4. battle of bunker hill, it's waves of enemies instead of a large all out fight.

[stellvia]

More like they have the tech for it, but until that tech falls to Family Toaster levels, they won't go forward with it. Same way SimCity 2013 was permanently crippled by enforcing woefully pathetic system requirements in the hopes of broadening the sales base. Instead, they lost their longsuffering fanbase from SimCity4 to Cities Skylines that provided what fans were actually looking for.

[Aeula]

The greedy fucks are probably waiting to see how we react to paid mods before making another game.