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    Lightbulb Glenn Greenwald: CIA spouts 'PROPAGANDA' & 'is at WAR with Trump'

    Glenn Greenwald, who is most famously known for revealing top-secret US and British Government intelligence from whistleblower Ed Snowden, roasted US intelligence agencies for launching a witch-hunt against the President-elect based on a dossier which he labelled “farcical”.

    Former MI6 spy Christopher Steele is alleged to have compiled a 35-page document that Russia had damning sexual, financial and political information against Donald Trump which has since been released by the media – although the claims are mostly unverified.

    Mr Greenwald claimed the CIA were orchestrating the negative media coverage of Donald Trump and suggests they had a vested interest in helping Hillary Clinton become the US President.

    The 49-year-old said: “The CIA is an agency that has repeatedly got caught lying in the past, it is designed to disseminate propaganda and they are currently at open-warfare with the person who has just been elected the person of the US, they were behind the Hillary Clinton campaign.

    “The mere fact that the CIA tried to inshrine this document in a cloud of authentic or credibility doesn’t, for me as a journalist, doesn’t convince me at all.

    “I want to see evidence first to believe that the claims are true.”

    Mr Greenwald added that several high-profile CIA had made the switch into different jobs and had since expressed their affection for Hillary Clinton.

    He said: “The former head of the CIA, Michael Morel, went to the New York Times and endorsed Hillary Clinton. George Bush’s CIA head General Hayden went to the Washington Post and did the same thing.

    “They both accused Trump of being a recruit of Vladimir Putin, they were in agreement with Hillary Clinton’s views.

    “I would say that any rational human being with even minimal history of the US and the CIA would take everything that the CIA says with a huge grain of salt. I would call it a dose of rational scepticism given that how many times in that past the agency has lied and been in error.

    Replying to Newsnight presenter Emily Maitlis, who continued to press Mr Greenwald on whether the CIA was “partisan”, the former Guardian journalist fired back.

    Mr Greenwald said: “You know, of course, don’t you, that the Iraq war was started because that agency said that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and was in alliance with al-Qaeda, so of course people should treat those claims sceptically."

    Trump himself has denied the scandalous claims, attacking the media for publishing what he called "fake news".
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    Remember the CIA in Nicaragua. Money for weapons in Iran? ect. The CIA has massive credibility deficit, more over it is interesting to watch Democrats in a confused haze now praise the CIA and hold it up as a trustworthy and inscrutable agency.
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    Greenwald is a hero of the extreme left, the people who live in la-la land.
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    Except that's not what the CIA did, at all. CNN didn't release the documents and have not referred to their contents in any specific way at all. Why is this so difficult for people to understand? They reported on a security briefing, which Obama and Biden are confirmed to have received.

    This probably needs to go in the other thread anyway.

    EDIT: Just realized that I'm an idiot. IGNORE ME!
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    How would any of this help Hilary now? If anything it would help Mike Pence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Greenwald is a hero of the extreme left, the people who live in la-la land.
    How is he a hero of the extreme left ?

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    I saw the interview on Tucker Carlson. He had a good point.

    Mostly that Trump is going to have a hard time because these CIA men don't like that Trump wants to roll back their operations. Especially in Syria.

    They loved the warmonger Hillary because she was going to escalate the war in Syria and impose bans on Russia. Most likely starting aggressive retaliatory action by Russia.

    The people voted Trump in and now the CIA are left with there dick in their hands because it goes against their highest agenda.

    This is coming from a liberal by the way and he had a good point. Remember that next time you feel bad about Hitlery losing. She most likely would have started WW3
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    Glenn Greenwald is a peoples right activist. Neither left. Nor right.

    Americans..

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaserSharkDFB View Post
    Except that's not what the CIA did, at all. CNN didn't release the documents and have not referred to their contents in any specific way at all. Why is this so difficult for people to understand? They reported on a security briefing, which Obama and Biden are confirmed to have received.

    This probably needs to go in the other thread anyway.
    Pretty much this.
    CNN reports an accurate report ( at least in this case) and they are twisting it to accuse CNN of reporting on fake news.
    Hypocrisy is endless with these people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sethman75 View Post
    I saw the interview on Tucker Carlson. He had a good point.

    Mostly that Trump is going to have a hard time because these CIA men don't like that Trump wants to roll back their operations. Especially in Syria.

    They loved the warmonger Hillary because she was going to escalate the war in Syria and impose bans on Russia. Most likely starting aggressive retaliatory action by Russia.

    The people voted Trump in and now the CIA are left with there dick in their hands because it goes against their highest agenda.

    This is coming from a liberal by the way and he had a good point. Remember that next time you feel bad about Hitlery losing. She most likely would have started WW3
    Yes, all CIA analysts are shadowy war mongering people who have a vandetta against an idiotic POTUS with an extremely fragile ego, and in are no way people who lead normal lives who just do a job.

    Holy shit the narratives people conduct in their mind are like try-hard B movies. Only not as successful.

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    *sigh*

    More from this clown? Are we still entertaining this ludicrous notion because Big Daddy Trump keeps saying they're out to get him, and he must be telling the truth?

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    I don't think there's any question that the intelligence field is opposed to Trump. Trump has shown that he doesn't like them, and doesn't really respect what they are doing. He's taken steps to undermine them. On that same note, the intelligence agencies have shown that they don't really like him, and don't respect him. They will take steps to undermine him.

    The exact same can be said for Hillary and the FBI.

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    The problem for Greenwald and his assertions here is that he's conflating IC issues with Trump as a conspiracy to get Hillary elected. I mean pretending like Hayden supporting Clinton is some sort of nefarious thing, as opposed to it being about Trump's inadequacies, is intellectually dishonest and really fucking stupid.

    Things like that make him seem like a shill himself.

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    If they were doing it to help Clinton they would have done it before the election, just like the FBI did their thing to help Trump, but they didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    more over it is interesting to watch Democrats in a confused haze now praise the CIA and hold it up as a trustworthy and inscrutable agency.
    Quite a



    you got there...

    Why do you feel the need to characterize large groups of individuals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRE 9-11 View Post
    Quite a



    you got there...

    Why do you feel the need to characterize large groups of individuals?
    Is it an unfair characterization?
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
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    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    For some reason i dont believe the CIA is at war with trump.

    Because normally, the CIA assassinates politicians which dont fit to their agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Is it an unfair characterization?
    Yes, of course it is. One should have the ability to both praise and criticize an agency when they deem fit.

    The majority of Democrats voted for the Iraq war. So they obviously trusted the CIA in 2002.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Remember the CIA in Nicaragua. Money for weapons in Iran? ect. The CIA has massive credibility deficit, more over it is interesting to watch Democrats in a confused haze now praise the CIA and hold it up as a trustworthy and inscrutable agency.
    The left as you want to put so many people in one basket is mostly saying that dismissing the president dismissing the entire intelligence community is insane Also your post is very tone deaf since the entire GOP does believe the intelligence community. Let's also point out the obvious Trump has yet to produce any documentation or proof for any of his assertions, there seem to be no cry by Trump worshipers for him to prove anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRE 9-11 View Post
    Yes, of course it is. One should have the ability to both praise and criticize an agency when they deem fit.

    The majority of Democrats voted for the Iraq war. So they obviously trusted the CIA in 2002.
    In context, it seems somewhat silly though, or at best self serving to trust the CIA NOW, for no other seeming reason than they are telling Democrats what they want to hear.

    Is there some specific reason to trust the CIA now other than that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    In context, it seems somewhat silly though, or at best self serving to trust the CIA NOW, for no other seeming reason than they are telling Democrats what they want to hear.
    I find it just as silly to imply that Democrats do not trust the CIA in general.

    I'm sure some people are jumping on the wagon because it looks bad for Trump. But I don't see how you could provide evidence that it's an overwhelming trend within the Democratic party.
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