Intel: Russia has Compromising info on Trump.

[Miztickow]

When a random anonymous poster said it online.

Attention everyone, Sarah Palin and John McCain are actually Obama's long lost twin siblings! You have to believe me because I said this on an online forum!

Wrong. Obama is John McCain and Sarah Palin's adopted Kenyan Muslim baby.

[Belize]

When a random anonymous poster said it online.

Attention everyone, Sarah Palin and John McCain are actually Obama's long lost twin siblings! You have to believe me because I said this on an online forum!

B-b-b-but 4Chan said so!

The irony of people poking fun of the allegations while believing 4chan is mind bursting.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

Following this thread is like a slow decent into madness. I've seen so much back tracking and 180s that my neck almost snapped off.

The best part was when we found out this news was fake, the people saying that its the fault of Trump. Like, it seems like people here hate Trump more than they like not coming across as retarded.

No, now their speech changed.

It's "allegations cannot be false until provably so!".

[The Emperor]

So CNN is quick to put some bs into their headlines, then rigorously defend themselves reporting it, because no matter if it happened or not, it is big so you need to report it(which is exactly the reasoning that **g Anderson Cooper came up with in interview with Kelyanne.) Does it really surprise anyone much? CNN are little more than a tabloid, good thing many more people come to realise this as a result of this nonsense. No, really, this stuff is golden.(That's what he said ;P)


[Infracted]

[Machismo]

It's kinda a circle jerk right now, with opinions split down party lines. Long and short, nothing will be done unless something new pops up. Now, think about this: Imagine it was true. The only way Russia would be able to use the material was if they had the only evidence, so it would do them well to cover Donald's tracks for him and keep the only evidence for themselves. If that is the case, any progression on this issue would require a leak from Russia. Just jerk-off speculation though.

Either way, I don't think it can be progressed from here. Effectively over, and if never proven, it's never proven ie: nothingburger. It may or many not affect Trump in public opinion or in the press, but he's pretty savvy when spinning things so I wouldn't count on this being a total negative for him. No doubt the press will keep drudging it up as they have a vested anti-Trump interest to keep the Russia story in the news. However, like I said very early in the thread, the whole Russian story true or not, is not what Democrats should be focusing on if they want to beat Trump the next time around. I think a lot of people still are in denial that a Trump presidency will happen in 8 days, but you want to look forward here or you are gonna get beat again. 2018 then 2020. Independents are not on the side of our MSM, because BOTH sides of the isle hate CNN brother and sisters, this I promise you.

Something new did pop up. Biden said that both he and Obama were briefed.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/12/politi...ort/index.html

That goes along with CNNs initial report that was based on the briefing.

[Bullettime]

So CNN is quick to put some bs into their headlines, then rigorously defend themselves reporting it, because no matter if it happened or not, it is big so you need to report it(which is exactly the reasoning that **g Anderson Cooper came up with in interview with Kelyanne.) Does it really surprise anyone much? CNN are little more than a tabloid, good thing many more people come to realise this as a result of this nonsense. No, really, this stuff is golden.(That's what he said ;P)

Because all they reported on was the existence of a dossier and the supposed contents given to the FBI but even claimed the information wasn't yet substantiated. The existence was then confirmed by the intelligence agencies, McCain, and Biden.

People keep conflating what CNN did with what Buzzfeed did.

[Shadowmelded]

No, now their speech changed.

It's "allegations cannot be false until provably so!".

It seems pretty obvious that until it can be proven one way or another, their accuracy is unknown.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

It seems pretty obvious that until it can be proven one way or another, their accuracy is unknown.

On this I agree. I speak of the crowd claiming the document is true. I've discussed with you earlier and we share mostly the same opinion on this matter.

[Machismo]

On this I agree. I speak of the crowd claiming the document is true. I've discussed with you earlier and we share mostly the same opinion on this matter.

Who is claiming that the 35-page document posted from Buzzfeed is true? I don't know if I've seen anyone make that claim. CNN certainly never made that claim.

[Miztickow]

It seems pretty obvious that until it can be proven one way or another, their accuracy is unknown.

For now, I'm going with it being more likely than not that it's true considering Donald Drumpf's character.

[Machismo]

Following this thread is like a slow decent into madness. I've seen so much back tracking and 180s that my neck almost snapped off.

The best part was when we found out this news was fake, the people saying that its the fault of Trump. Like, it seems like people here hate Trump more than they like not coming across as retarded.

What part about the CNN report was fake?

This has been asked many times, so please show us where their report was false?

So far, nobody has answered it.

[Bullettime]

On this I agree. I speak of the crowd claiming the document is true. I've discussed with you earlier and we share mostly the same opinion on this matter.

No one is saying the document is true. Buzzfeed was absolutely wrong in posting what they posted. People are putting the two incidents in the same bucket.

What CNN said, and was backed up by intelligence agencies, Biden, and McCain, is that the dossier exists, that McCain gave it to the FBI, that it was from a non US intelligence contact, and what it supposedly entails. All while giving the disclaimer that the information is not yet substantiated and only that the accusations were at least concerning enough to people like McCain to warrant submitting forward for an investigation.

[DeadmanWalking]

Following this thread is like a slow decent into madness. I've seen so much back tracking and 180s that my neck almost snapped off.

The best part was when we found out this news was fake, the people saying that its the fault of Trump. Like, it seems like people here hate Trump more than they like not coming across as retarded.

The news isn't fake, CNN said that intelligence gave Trump and Obama information that according to a Mi6 investigator there were uncoroborated reports the Russians have dirt on Trump that compromises him personally and financially. Now wether those reports are real are yet to be distinguished as factual but the giving of that information to Pres and Pres-elect is factual and was reported on.

Obviously the ski-no wasn't slow enough for you to follow.

[Cthulhu 2020]

I have come to Trumps defense? Really? Have i commented in every Trump thread? Was every post I ever wrote about Trump pro Trump? Wow you seem to know me better than I know myself!

What threads you do appear in is to defend Trump and bash opposition.

A Trump shill is a Trump shill, no matter what you may call yourself.

[starlord]

the reason the document is being taken so seriously is due to the already verified ties to russia Trump has.
already verified;

-he has massive financial investments in russia, which can be traced to Putin
-his top 3 advisors on his campaign had ties to russia and putin
-some of his business ventures are backed by the russian criminal underground

“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., said at a real estate conference in 2008, according to a trade publication, eTurboNews.

these dossiers likely simply contain the dirty details of what is already plain to see.

[Tijuana]

the reason the document is being taken so seriously is due to the already verified ties to russia Trump has.
already verified;

-he has massive financial investments in russia, which can be traced to Putin
-his top 3 advisors on his campaign had ties to russia and putin
-some of his business ventures are backed by the russian criminal underground


these dossiers likely simply contain the dirty details of what is already plain to see.

Can we assume you have no sources for items #1 and #3? If so, that would be breaking news, if there ever was any. These are not facts that you are presenting, they are conspiracy theories, which are not allowed here. Well, at least not unless they are anti-Trump or anti-GOP.

[May90]

When people take the word of 4chan and reddit over intelligence agencies, security specialists and independent professional investigators... is it a surprise that this sack of squashes won the election? If the trend continues, in 2020 Michael Moore will be running against Alex Jones. And in 2024 - Anonymous from 4chan against SickMyDuck666 from tumblr!

[Tijuana]

When people take the word of 4chan and reddit over intelligence agencies, security specialists and independent professional investigators... is it a surprise that this sack of squashes won the election? If the trend continues, in 2020 Michael Moore will be running against Alex Jones. And in 2024 - Anonymous from 4chan against SickMyDuck666 from tumblr!

Do you not see WHY that is though? If no media can be trusted, people resort to whatever news suits them the best. The root problem is dishonest and corrupt media, not the fact that bull shit media exists. Fake news has always existed. The tool to combat fake news was always reputable media outlets, of which there are none remaining.

[Tijuana]

You seem to be uninformed. CNN is reporting on a story that Buzzfeed broke. There are two (technically three) stories happening in parallel here. But i don't expect someone who's research went back as far, "This makes trump look bad? Then its true."

Also, You need to prove that something is true, not that something is false. You can never prove a negative. You can't prove that there is no physics defying purple unicorn having an orgy with moon men on Europa.

You people are fucking insane.

I agree. According to the standard being set by posters here, everything is true until it's disproven. There is a term for that, where you expect others to provide sources that refute your own unsourced claim, but I forget what it is.

By this logic, nobody can prove that I can't fly. Ergo, I can in fact fly.

[Deleted]

(P.S: Buzzfeed is the person who broke the news. not CNN. CNN is reporting on Buzzfeed's report. You seem to only know part of the story but you are acting like you know more than people who know the entire story.)

Again, completely wrong. Buzzfeed isn't a person and CNN broke the news. Check the first pages of this same thread.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/12313/...hit-john-nolte
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/cnn-...ud-1201958390/