neck enchant 7.1.5

[Caligs]

Is hidden satyr still the go to? Or should we now go for the raw stat ones (master/trained soldier for afflic, quick/claw? for destro and demo)

[Scathbais]

Is hidden satyr still the go to? Or should we now go for the raw stat ones (master/trained soldier for afflic, quick/claw? for destro and demo)

In Destro Discord, Mark of the Claw for Destro and Mark of Soldier (mastery one) for Affliction are BiS

[Netherspark]

In Destro Discord, Mark of the Claw for Destro and Mark of Soldier (mastery one) for Affliction are BiS

Is a 6 second buff really worth it? 6 seconds of 3% haste and crit?

Also noting that Hidden Satyr now scales with 200% spellpower. And there are now permanent 200 stat enchants as well.

[muto]

In Destro Discord, Mark of the Claw for Destro and Mark of Soldier (mastery one) for Affliction are BiS

It takes 400 Mastery for 1%, which means that enchant is only 1.5% Mastery. I don't think that's worth it. I'm currently using Claw. It has about 30% uptime for 3% Haste and Crit. It actually simmed higher than Satyr for me.

[Scathbais]

Is a 6 second buff really worth it? 6 seconds of 3% haste and crit?

Also noting that Hidden Satyr now scales with 200% spellpower. And there are now permanent 200 stat enchants as well.

It takes 400 Mastery for 1%, which means that enchant is only 1.5% Mastery. I don't think that's worth it. I'm currently using Claw. It has about 30% uptime for 3% Haste and Crit. It actually simmed higher than Satyr for me.

Guys, I don't really know what to tell you about your opinions/calculations. I am just repeating what the theorycrafters have calculated/simmed and posted on the Warlock Discord.

[kavousanos]

Guys, I don't really know what to tell you about your opinions/calculations. I am just repeating what the theorycrafters have calculated/simmed and posted on the Warlock Discord.

And it's great that you did. If you could copypaste the results so they can be found here too, it'd be even better.

[Kirroth]

Guys, I don't really know what to tell you about your opinions/calculations. I am just repeating what the theorycrafters have calculated/simmed and posted on the Warlock Discord.

I believe it. In my ToV raid tonight as Afflic, my Satyr enchant wasn't doing much good. Both as a percentage and an absolute mine did less than the Satyr procs for the BM Hunter and Shadow Priest (despite me doing overall more DPS). I was already figuring I should probably swap over to Soldier, and now I'm certain.

[GT4]

It takes 400 Mastery for 1%, which means that enchant is only 1.5% Mastery. I don't think that's worth it. I'm currently using Claw. It has about 30% uptime for 3% Haste and Crit. It actually simmed higher than Satyr for me.

Hidden Satyr did 1.1% of total damage for the highest Affli using it I could find for Guarm (top 3 or so are already using Trained Soldier).

1.5% Mastery is actually 4.6875% DoT damage for Affliction (1%/400 rating is based on 8% base mastery, affliction has 25%).

The choice is honestly pretty obvious.

[Sunlighthell]

I had 122% mastery. With 600 mastery enchant I have 127%. Satyr was shit anyway. Thanks for information.

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Mark of the Claw also simmed higher for me when using MG for 1 and 2 targets.