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    Trump's inability to express himself

    I am unsure how this person managed to win an election, but what worries me most is every opportunity he has had, he says he is staying as president for 8 years, as if it is guaranteed he will win the second term's elections.

    Here is an example of what a transcript of one of his discussions with the press sounds like. Most of it makes no sense. Most of it is gloating. I'd love to see a news network do an interview to several psychiatrists to analyze transcripts of his press conferences and press interviews.

    Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, okay, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, okay, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right — who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.
    This is what Vox says: "His simple message — "the Iran deal is bad for the United States" — was interrupted by musings on his uncle’s education, his own education, the power of nuclear energy, prisoners, the intelligence of women, and the negotiating prowess of Iranians. Slate even called on the public to help diagram it."

    http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...ain?yptr=yahoo

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_v..._carolina.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medievaldragon View Post
    I am unsure how this person managed to win an election, but what worries me most is every opportunity he has had, he says he is staying as president for 8 years, as if it is guaranteed he will win the second term's elections.

    Here is an example of what a transcript of one of his discussions with the press sounds like. Most of it makes no sense. Most of it is gloating. I'd love to see a news network do an interview to several psychiatrists to analyze transcripts of his press conferences and press interviews.
    Because both candidates could only beat each other... Seriously if either side had someone who wasn't a POS it would have been a landslide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Because both candidates could only beat each other... Seriously if either side had someone who wasn't a POS it would have been a landslide.
    I can't believe I am saying this but I agree, without Hillary Clinton to balance Trump out people see what a POS he is. This election people were voting more against a candidate than for one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medievaldragon View Post
    I am unsure how this person managed to win an election, but what worries me most is every opportunity he has had, he says he is staying as president for 8 years, as if it is guaranteed he will win the second term's elections.

    Here is an example of what a transcript of one of his discussions with the press sounds like. Most of it makes no sense. Most of it is gloating. I'd love to see a news network do an interview to several psychiatrists to analyze transcripts of his press conferences and press interviews.
    Yeah, he clearly has serious physical and mental health issues. I'm surprised he made it through the election cycle, honestly.
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    Braindead president voted by braindead people from the flyover states. It's the perfect combination.
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    His rephrasing, largely down to filling time whilst he thinks of what to say next, is one element that seems to play better than it would with other orators. American comedy is rife with it, which isn't a sin per se, but elsewhere tends to demonstrate a lack of discipline around rhythm. In turn though a structured speech will often feel like a sales presentation to people and Trump's stream of consciousness side steps that initial ill will.

    Truth is he was elected on personality, not competence or ability, veracity or clarity, so to consider him against the standards set in politics, an arena for professional orators, is a bit of a goose chase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracos854 View Post
    I can't believe I am saying this but I agree, without Hillary Clinton to balance Trump out people see what a POS he is. This election people were voting more against a candidate than for one.
    At this point, I don't even wish Hilary had won. I would totally support replacing Trump with any qualified Republican fit to lead.

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    I know my fair share of bullshit and he speaks like a premium cut bullshitter. The best bullshitter - he is so good could he could bullshit himself into the White House.

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    People wanted somebody who wasn't a lawyer or a politician, Trump is neither of those things. It's an interesting experiment if nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medievaldragon View Post
    I am unsure how this person managed to win an election, but what worries me most is every opportunity he has had, he says he is staying as president for 8 years, as if it is guaranteed he will win the second term's elections.
    Your first sentence is self-explaining, but let me clarify, as someone who does not adhere to Trump's ideology, but who still understand why people support it.

    1. The complete disregard of a portion of the population these past 8 years, mainly rural areas who suffer a constant flow of emigration toward the cities.

    2. The forced political correctedness and bullying of white straight males.

    3. The economical gap between the rich and the poor ever growing, with the middle gradually declining.

    4. The refusal of acceptation of some religions but not others.

    5. The massive shaming toward people who disagree with the mainstream way of thinking.

    6. Shady deals and elections going within the DNC

    The list could go on. You can argue against these points, put a very thought out argument as to why I am wrong. But it's the reality these people live in and at this rate, you're not doing a good job of making people go back on your side.

    I did not vote for Trump, because I'm canadian. But even then, I voted for the liberal party here, so yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracos854 View Post
    I can't believe I am saying this but I agree, without Hillary Clinton to balance Trump out people see what a POS he is. This election people were voting more against a candidate than for one.
    I maintain that Bernie Sanders would have rolled over Trump in the general. Maybe even a Clinton/Sanders ticket would have, with Clinton getting out the vote in Democratic strongholds while sending Bernie to campaign in the Midwest and the Rust Belt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medievaldragon View Post
    At this point, I don't even wish Hilary had won. I would totally support replacing Trump with any qualified Republican fit to lead.
    Remember how Chaney pretty much ran the show with Bush? What do you think Pence's job is? Not that I even like Chaney or Pence but there job is to be the puppet master.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodElf4Life View Post

    2. The forced political correctedness and bullying of white straight males.
    What specific type of forced PC'ness riles people up so bad? Every time I read the above claim my brain translates it to , "Racist people are upset about being told to not be racist, and homophobic people are upset they can't treat gays as subhumans." Oh no, society wants us to treat everyone equally and generally be upstanding human beings, the HORROR!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    People wanted somebody who wasn't a lawyer or a politician, Trump is neither of those things. It's an interesting experiment if nothing else.
    It's not like the US didn't have that before. Anyway, we will certainly have some entertainment for the next 4 years. Unless his latest scandal somehow breaks his neck, lol if they actually had a video XD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOne01 View Post
    this is the exact correct answer to like 90% of threads on this site now. Just link everyone to this post when they pretend to not understand whats been happening. You dont have to agree with something to understand why it happening.

    Ill reiterate encase any liberals are still confused.
    You oppress the opinion of the masses
    you talk down to them and act as if they are sub human because they belive different things
    you bully the masses into forced compliance with things like PC culture which represses descenting view points
    and you get the masses rising up and getting louder.
    Human history has shown this to be the case time and time again.
    I probably don't understand some of those, but my thread is not really about why people voted Republican, vs Democrats, or vs Hillary. Heck, I would even support any Republican fit to serve, if it meant removing Trump. The thread is about Trump's inability to express a coherent sentence.

    Chances now of Trump getting replaced are very slim after the Electoral College confirmed him. Unless something muddy is unveiled to get him impeached. Just the thought that he is not yet (until January 20) president, and this is how he expresses himself, makes me dread how his posturing at the UN and NATO are going to be like when he opens his mouth before them. This is a guy who now commands every nuke button in USA. So forgive me, but it is something to be VERY nervous about.

    Everything we have heard from his mouth and from his tweets before January 20, makes you wonder how he will behave, or what he is going to say after January 20. It is grim.

    Look how he went bananas in Twitter against Meryl Streep, Rosie O'Donell, Hilary, and every other woman out there he dislikes. If he doesn't like what the UK Queen or Merkel says, are we going to war when he goes emo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratt View Post
    What specific type of forced PC'ness riles people up so bad? Every time I read the above claim my brain translates it to , "Racist people are upset about being told to not be racist, and homophobic people are upset they can't treat gays as subhumans."
    Well, I'm gay, and I certainly know that there's a difference between being polite and respectful versus hating on a minority group.

    I've seen people being genuinely afraid of talking to me just because I was gay -- not because they were afraid I would hit on them, but because they weren't sure what they were allowed to say and what they weren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOne01 View Post
    You oppress the opinion of the masses
    you talk down to them and act as if they are sub human because they belive different things
    you bully the masses into forced compliance with things like PC culture which represses descenting view points
    Specifically which opinions?
    Which different things?
    What specific opinions would you like to express that are repressed by PC culture?

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    The dude is a rambler and talks way too much, yet says nothing of value. Seriously, he'll refer to things that he can never specify, is vague on all details, and rambles way too much. How this guy got as far as he has, I am extremely dumbfounded.

    Like seriously, if we were at a bar, or hanging out, or working with him, this guy would be laughed at. His speech is incredibly shallow and vapid. He talks and talks and talks but yet he says nothing at all. People keep saying how he is 'Big Picture', but he's not even that. If Trump is 'Big Picture', then Barney is scrupulous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratt View Post
    What specific type of forced PC'ness riles people up so bad? Every time I read the above claim my brain translates it to , "Racist people are upset about being told to not be racist, and homophobic people are upset they can't treat gays as subhumans." Oh no, society wants us to treat everyone equally and generally be upstanding human beings, the HORROR!!
    I'm pretty sure people just read tumblr then can't separate crazy tumblr people from reality.

    I don't think they're necessarily bigoted, they just seem the crazy minority of people like tumblr and then apply it to all liberals.

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