"be respectful, responsible and confident"
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"be respectful, responsible and confident"
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I'm afraid I can't understand your point if I have to be a man to do it, because I'm a woman. I can only tell you about my own personal experiences and you're free to believe them or not (anecdotal evidence and all). I have met alteast 3 guys in my life who were not physically fit (they were slightly overweight), did not possess handsome faces by majority standards, 2 had mild acne. I have seen with my own eyes how these men could and did score with *almost* any woman they wanted to, regardless of her beauty, me included. They were promiscuous and women just seemed to fall for them ALL because the the self-confidence they manifested when carrying themselves. Likewise I have seen what would be considered handsome men having little to no partners in their lifetime or seeming unlucky with women all because they were insecure.
Yeah maybe one's self-confidence would improve if they had a fit body and maybe it would magically make one charming (but I have my doubts about this one), but it isn't needed at all.
I can understand your point, I guess we're only disagreeing about the reason why one should start lifting weights, i.e. to improve self-esteem and increase confidence is fine, to try and appeal to women taste is less fine, in my book, because it may be too generic and the woman you'd like is not into that. In the end if you spend time working out you'll probably attract girls that are into the same thing, so it's a benefit to both of them if the interest in it is genuine and done for self-fulfillment.
I'm cool with that too.
In the end most of the griping about suggesting men to work out boils down to "not everyone specifically likes it!".
The funny thing is at a rough estimation 98% of women are at least FINE with their partner being fit, though. What would there be bad about suggesting that men work out? It works.
God forbid a woman acts feminine and a man acts masculine.
The horror....
What will we do with a man acting like a man and a woman acting like a woman?
Do we not want to raise more obese fedora wearing ze's with neon colored hair who will likely die alone?
I think this conversation has reached a point where it's kind of losing the original meaning. We're now basically saying the same thing, even though one may as well just suggest "work on improving your self-confidence". It's fine to suggest someone to work out if the goal is to improve their self-confidence. What I still believe in is that no one should feel like they "have to" change themselves to attract others, they should change themselves only if they are not comfortable in their own skin.
Even if one is ugly, fat, and so on there will always be some people that are attracted to certain things in that person. If one were to give someone a suggestion on how to improve themselves or how to treat others everyone should get the same advice and it should not be based on their gender, imo.
If a person truly is "repulsive" to everyone it basically comes down to a lack of social skills or basic grooming skills and personal hygene, not because they don't have a nice body or wear this or that, talk about this or that topic during a date and so on, are lady-like or androgynous or masculine or effeminate. That is my stance on this matter.
Last edited by Selinde; 2017-01-16 at 02:24 AM.
Some of us guys like crew-cuts and combat boots. Respect their right to choose.
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