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    Most Germans don't think racial profiling is a problem: poll

    Oh, so they've realized that it's not a problem to target the people who are more criminal than the germans themselves?

    https://www.thelocal.de/20170113/maj...cial-profiling

    A YouGov poll released on Thursday found that the majority of Germans said racial profiling was not problematic, amid criticism of police checks on New Year's Eve in Cologne.
    Sixty-three percent of Germans in the YouGov poll said they did not find racial profiling generally problematic.

    Another 27 percent said that it was problematic when police checks are not conducted based on concrete suspicions, but rather on general appearances, including perceived ethnicity or skin colour.

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    its fine i am german , we need to profile those animals .


    its like when you are in the jungle you are carefull for the lion why would you check out the rabbit , nots the rabbit that is going to kill and eat /rape you



    now dont get me wrong , not to check all of them , but when they do it like for new year when 100 of them arrived togheter at the train station where last year poeple got raped by the same kind...

    yeah no i have no probleme at all with that



    Infracted for flaming.


    edit : lol mods mad cause i called poeple wovles and rabbits what a bad thing to say... seems to have her period :|
    Last edited by Uselessrouge; 2017-01-18 at 08:41 PM.

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    Well, i am german, and i have a problem with racial profiling, as it is against our grundgesetz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    I think it depends.

    Stopping Jerry Seinfeld, or an 90 year old Grandmother with Grandchildren in the airport for "random" searches is mindless, and wastes resources.

    On the other hand, stopping every person that looks middle eastern is also wasteful, and presumptuous.

    My prefered method would be data driven, and formed from actual psychological profiles we have about who commits the crimes we are trying to stop.

    I do not mind some profiling, so long as there is good cause, etc. I know I would probably be pulled out from the airport line more, but I am ok with that.
    Pretty much my stance. It has it's place and usefulness. But, like most things, has to be executed in moderation and used wisely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uselessrouge View Post
    its fine i am german , we need to profile those animals .


    its like when you are in the jungle you are carefull for the lion why would you check out the rabbit , nots the rabbit that is going to kill and eat /rape you
    Lions have to kill to survive, Algerians on the other hand don't have to rape to survive...

    Also, I know this is pretty cliche but #NotAll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    I think it depends.

    Stopping Jerry Seinfeld, or a 90 year old Grandmother with Grandchildren in the airport for "random" searches is mindless, and wastes resources.

    On the other hand, stopping every person that looks middle eastern is also wasteful, and presumptuous.

    My prefered method would be data driven, and formed from actual psychological profiles we have about who commits the crimes we are trying to stop.

    I do not mind some profiling, so long as there is good cause, etc. I know I would probably be pulled out from the airport line more, but I am ok with that.
    The confusing part is we have no fly lists along with things like the NSA going through everybody's stuff with a fine-tooth comb documenting whether or not a person is likely to be involved in some sort of criminal act.

    And then we completely ignore that information and have have to rely on random checks.

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    It seems they trust their police force not to abuse it.

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    its the way a normal brain works. And by the way there is a reason why for example asians are not being racial profiled (that much). They don't steal a truck to drive over innocent people on a regular basis (or at all).

    I would rather be careful than dead, but that is just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conflux View Post
    its the way a normal brain works.
    If it works at all. I doubt that is the fact when people replace subjective criminal behaviours by racist profiles.

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    I don't think any German professor will allow yourgov as empirical evidence. Neither do I.

    This is a bait article into fake news. For and from the very same kind of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conflux View Post
    its the way a normal brain works. And by the way there is a reason why for example asians are not being racial profiled (that much). They don't steal a truck to drive over innocent people on a regular basis (or at all).

    I would rather be careful than dead, but that is just my opinion
    Don't get profiled? Do you even live in europe? I've been assumed to be a prostitute looking for customers when going out just based on my appearance, by bouncers and police.

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    It isn't a problem as long as you look like most Germans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anni View Post
    Don't get profiled? Do you even live in europe? I've been assumed to be a prostitute looking for customers when going out just based on my appearance, by bouncers and police.
    That has probably more to do with the clothes you were wearing. yes of course I live in europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conflux View Post
    That has probably more to do with the clothes you were wearing. yes of course I live in europe.
    Nope. I was wearing the same type of clothes as everyone else.

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    It is in theory a smart tactic. In practice it tends to end up using resources that aren't particularly efficient, it tends to grow dissent for authority and lastly it tends to actually ignore that even though some groups commit more crime, they also tend to be a small minority, meaning there is a majority that albeit does less crime in percentage but overall is the main contributor and hence you essentially focus away from majority member criminals and it then tends to actually be ethically questionable since it resembles a witch hunt.

    But it complex and if done correctly it can work quite well.

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    As long as it's used responsibly I see no issue with it.
    "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.” - General James Mattis

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    We're humans, we look for patterns everywhere we go.

    Guess what pattern is behind racial profiling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anni View Post
    Nope. I was wearing the same type of clothes as everyone else.
    well I had encounters with the police too. Once they assumed I was smuggling weed (no idea why). The other time they thought I stole something.
    They did their job and I went on with my life, because it turned out I didn't do what they thought I may have done.

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    Reminds me of a story that was on 60 mins many years ago of a State trooper in Florida who had an excellent rate of catching drug smugglers coming up from Miami. Something like a 90% success rate of pulling over a suspect driver and it being loaded with drugs. But, his technique employed some racial profiling and thus he wasn't allowed to do what was working great. Mainly because jackasses else where were using it to harass people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemposs View Post
    It is in theory a smart tactic. In practice it tends to end up using resources that aren't particularly efficient, it tends to grow dissent for authority and lastly it tends to actually ignore that even though some groups commit more crime, they also tend to be a small minority, meaning there is a majority that albeit does less crime in percentage but overall is the main contributor and hence you essentially focus away from majority member criminals and it then tends to actually be ethically questionable since it resembles a witch hunt.

    But it complex and if done correctly it can work quite well.
    It's never done correctly. They always end causing trouble for minorities who have done nothing wrong.

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