7.2 spoilers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheFirstOnes]

NVM. Found it.

[Grimfrost]

As a druid i can't wait to go to argus and plants some trees n flowers n shit.

[TheFirstOnes]

As a druid i can't wait to go to argus and plants some trees n flowers n shit.

Pfft, good luck finding the Right amount of elements to make such a thing happen. I mean, You need Hydrogen, Carbon, and ALOT more Elements, in order to Re-create a world. However, since this is the MAIN legion home-world, good luck even keeping a piece of grass alive....

[Friendlyimmolation]

Pfft, good luck finding the Right amount of elements to make such a thing happen. I mean, You need Hydrogen, Carbon, and ALOT more Elements, in order to Re-create a world. However, since this is the MAIN legion home-world, good luck even keeping a piece of grass alive....

one word. Magic.

[Stiven]

So there's a questline with Anduin now. It ends with what I think will be a cut-scene that's not in yet, which is when Anduin gets Varian's sword.

Edit:

Heh, really best quest in Legion I did so far. So much emo when I escorted Anduin to Lion's Rest.

[Myta]

Garrosh.

Garrosh development?

Changing a character completely between expansions with no hint of transition to almost schizophrenic degrees isn't character development.

[TheFirstOnes]

one word. Magic.

Another Word. Shamanism

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Garrosh development?

Changing a character completely between expansions with no hint of transition to almost schizophrenic degrees isn't character development.

Idk man. You'd go crazy too if you were forcefully put into Ultimate power over the horde, with barely much training, and with the History lessons of a man that thinks to himself "Man. The horde really let itself go".

I blame thrall for being too over-confident with garrosh...

[Friendlyimmolation]

Another Word. Shamanism

That's fantastic. Shamanism and or light, will probably be used to cleanse parts of Argus, if Velen ever wants to move back there.

[Zulkhan]

Garrosh development?

Changing a character completely between expansions with no hint of transition to almost schizophrenic degrees isn't character development.

To catch the transition you need more than the game. You need to read comics, stories and novels. Without them, Varian is just a schizophrenic as Garrosh.

If you want to point at a truly shitty development look at Jaina. Even by reading all about her you still can't realistically comprehend what the heck is going on in her head. In fact it'll just baffle you even more.

[TheFirstOnes]

Heh, really best quest in Legion I did so far. So much emo when I escorted Anduin to Lion's Rest.

When I saw The people talk about anduin (Note that ANDUIN WAS RIGHT THERE): "Anduin will save us, His father was cool. But Anduin's cooler"

"NO! NO! NO! ANDUIN IS WEAK! THE LEGION WINS! I'M GOING TO KMS, NO HOPE"

Me: "Anduin, you're just not going to take that shit from her, yes?"

Anduin: They're right to be afraid. I've been sheltered for SO long, it's time for me to go the the Broken shore, and Learn about the Legion, before I can take them"

Me: *Claps Slowly* My god. Anduin, I fucking love you! You're doing what a Main guy SHOULD do, know the threat before assaulting the threat. And that's what your father la

*Anduin starts to shed I tear*

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That's fantastic. Shamanism and or light, will probably be used to cleanse parts of Argus, if Velen ever wants to move back there.

I mean, think about it. Have The shamans re-create/balance the Elemental Periodic Tables, Re-shape/Re-balance The MAIN 4 Elements, Have the Mages Shield Argus around, Have the Light Cleanse ALL the Fel-situated Areas, Break The Former Eredar city to the Ground, wait a few thousand years, AND BAM...WE HAVE A PLANET!

Now, back to azeroth bois. We have a Sea-army of Slay....

[Zephre]

It's nice to see Anduin get some more development but it annoys the fuck out of me Baine Bloodhoof has been given none, Wrathion apparently not existing anymore, Sylvanas's story grinding to a halt. From the legion description it sounded like Sylvanas was going to get some major development yet here we are with 7.2 on the PTR and absolutely nothing coming from it apart from some crap in Stormheim.

[QTface]

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...k-in-WoD-right

I came pretty close to calling Illidan coming back 3 years ago. I really wonder how this xpac is gonna end up. If Illidan really does become a holy warrior of himself, that is a pretty powerful character. Plus, we the player characters, are getting insanely strong. The top of our classes.

I know its a game and you have to grow in power each xpac, but I wonder what they will do next xpac? How do we go up from here? The only real mortal people above us is the huge lore figures like the ruler of the Horde/Alliance, Tyrande and stuff like that. We killed a dragon aspect (granted they aren't the same since Dragon Soul) so are we as strong as they are now?

[Zulkhan]

It's nice to see Anduin get some more development but it annoys the fuck out of me Baine Bloodhoof has been given none

Agreed. Baine is in many ways the Horde's Anduin and has as much potential, he was initially planned to have a role in Highmountain but was scrapped for reasons and now he's nowhere to be seen. And yeah, Sylvanas literally disappeared after Stormheim, even though Genn's presence in the Anduin's questline makes me presume she could be present in the Horde's counterpart.

[Myta]

Another Word. Shamanism

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Idk man. You'd go crazy too if you were forcefully put into Ultimate power over the horde, with barely much training, and with the History lessons of a man that thinks to himself "Man. The horde really let itself go".

I blame thrall for being too over-confident with garrosh...

So in TBC he was sad because he didn't want to be like Grom

In Wrath he's sending the player on suicide missions because they threaten his authority. While begging, literally begging Thrall to make him Warchief.

In Cata he's actually made Warchief and actually acts like a Warchief, executing a general for committing a warcrime.

In MoP he's enslaving humans, forcing them to fight each other for sport, shit that the humans of Lordaeron literally did to the Orcs. Going on mad racist powertrips about Orc superiority, full on drinking old god blood and going insane about world conquest.

In WoD he's "You made me what I am!"

You have to be on full on psychadelic drugs to think Garrosh is a good character. He is a completely different person in every Xpac he was in. Mood, behavior, the way he spoke and acted, his motivations. I'd forgive Garrosh if his argument was "You shouldn't have made me Warchief when I was literally a toddler in the body of a 8ft tall behemoth."

[Friendlyimmolation]

Its pretty insulting imo to compare Garry to Grom. Hes pretty much nearly the opposite of everything Grom was. When it comes to his character.

[Skeppio]

Its pretty insulting imo to compare Garry to Grom. Hes pretty much nearly the opposite of everything Grom was. When it comes to his character.

Not really. They're both irresponsible bloodthristy man-children who'd sell out and shackle their own people to unspeakable evil (Grom with demon blood TWICE, Garrosh with Y'Shaarj) for personal power, then refuse to accept any personal responsibility and blame literally everyone but themselves when shit hits the fan for them.

They sound like the exact same person, only difference is Grom did one good thing with his life at the end (even then, with his "I freed myself" line, that one good deed more of a by-product than any noble sacrifice).

[derpkitteh]

that artifact quest line to empower us further... are we basically mini-guardians now? it was only a portion of their power instead of all of it, but that's still a shitload of power.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Not really. They're both irresponsible bloodthristy man-children who'd sell out and shackle their own people to unspeakable evil (Grom with demon blood TWICE, Garrosh with Y'Shaarj) for personal power, then refuse to accept any personal responsibility and blame literally everyone but themselves when shit hits the fan for them.

They sound like the exact same person, only difference is Grom did one good thing with his life at the end (even then, with his "I freed myself" line, that one good deed more of a by-product than any noble sacrifice).

Grom was never irrational. Grom never sold out his own people, we see what happens when he knows what the demon blood actually does, the second time he drank it, he had already drank it once and was addicted.

So aside from the gross paint with one brush you did I'll try to elaborate on where you were wrong.

Grom accepts his faults, both in Lord of the clans and Warcraft 3, Garrosh on the other hand does not. Grom had a strong character, he didn't ever need others to make himself feel whole, the opposite of Garrosh. When they thought they lost everything, Garrosh became depressed and sank into lethargy, Grom kept fighting and refused to let his warsong fall back into the bloodcurse. Even their deaths are opposites. Grom talks about freeing himself, Garrosh dies blaming everyone but himself. IF you honestly think Grom and Garrosh were the same character, you need to read up on both of them again. Hell they even are the opposites physically.

[Raetary]

I mean if Tu'ure could blow away the essence of a manifesting Void Lord from devouring a planet, I am sure another Naaru could conceivable cleanse argus

Well, velen cleansed the exodar from the the fel taint.

[TheFirstOnes]

So in TBC he was sad because he didn't want to be like Grom

In Wrath he's sending the player on suicide missions because they threaten his authority. While begging, literally begging Thrall to make him Warchief.

In Cata he's actually made Warchief and actually acts like a Warchief, executing a general for committing a warcrime.

In MoP he's enslaving humans, forcing them to fight each other for sport, shit that the humans of Lordaeron literally did to the Orcs. Going on mad racist powertrips about Orc superiority, full on drinking old god blood and going insane about world conquest.

In WoD he's "You made me what I am!"

You have to be on full on psychadelic drugs to think Garrosh is a good character. He is a completely different person in every Xpac he was in. Mood, behavior, the way he spoke and acted, his motivations. I'd forgive Garrosh if his argument was "You shouldn't have made me Warchief when I was literally a toddler in the body of a 8ft tall behemoth."

1. Insulting for Grom, like Immo stated....

2. That's why I like him. His character has VARIETY. He's growing from a Noobish, Sick orc, To a High commander, then To a WINNING Warchief, only for him to go crazy and become WOW's Hitler....