It's official, President Trump takes over.

[Edge-]

But well making Pence your VP is one way to get anti-assassination insurance.

Yup, throughout the past 8ish months whenever friends have joked about being happy with a Trump assassination, I've been careful to remind them that despite his gross ignorance and dangerous levels of unpredictability, he may actually be the lesser of the two evils between them.

[Santti]

Since when do you live in the US?

It doesn't really matter where you are from when it comes to wishing US develop good policies. They are kind of a big deal in the world, you know. If they do badly, the shit is going to pour in on our heads.

Heard someone say the presidential elections in the US are more influential and more important to us (Finland) than the local presidential ones, and he is probably right.

[Fugus]

The best bulletproof vest you can get. Someone who is possibly even more horrible will be the president if Trump gets shot, so no-one will even consider it. Clever bastard.

I know one group who will. The moment Trump becomes a thorn in their side and more risk to them than the reward of being their golden scapegoat. I would not put it beyond the Republican party to invoke chapter 4 of the 25th amendment and have him ruled unfit and give the presidency to Pence anyways while getting a few ticks up on the approval ratings for getting rid of him. All while enjoying the fucked up decisions he made and took the blame for that they have no intention of removing.

He isn't one of them and is prideful and ignorant enough to be easily manipulated. He is the best scapegoat they could possibly hope for.

[alexw]

Yup, throughout the past 8ish months whenever friends have joked about being happy with a Trump assassination, I've been careful to remind them that despite his gross ignorance and dangerous levels of unpredictability, he may actually be the lesser of the two evils between them.

Well I guess that just ups the challenge level...... getting both of them at the same time.

And FYI better stupid evil then intelligent evil. The latter never misses.

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I know one group who will. The moment Trump becomes a thorn in their side and more risk to them than the reward of being their golden scapegoat. I would not put it beyond the Republican party to invoke chapter 4 of the 25th amendment and have him ruled unfit and give the presidency to Pence anyways while getting a few ticks up on the approval ratings for getting rid of him. All while enjoying the fucked up decisions he made and took the blame for that they have no intention of removing.

He isn't one of them and is prideful and ignorant enough to be easily manipulated. He is the best scapegoat they could possibly hope for.

Well he's already in violation of the constitution which is unarguably an impeachable offense. The only reason they won't do it is because Trump is popular with their regressive base. Once the honeymoon wears off and Trump scandals start to dominate the headlines I'm expecting it to happen.

[Cruor]

Lets see how you feel when the economy goes down the drain as the liberals that create half of the GDP in the country have a communal conniption fit. Urban centers make half the GDP in the country... and Urban Centers are liberal.

Cities are mainly liberal, but many of the people who make money are not. I grew up in NYC. It is one of the most scumbag liberal places you can find. None of my friends who stayed there and earn money are liberal. I remember in school, we had a program where they let in a few "inner city" (non white is the non PC term) kids in, based on good grades.

I got into an argument with one of them over welfare. He said it was good and we needed it. I explained to him its not fair because people who work have to support it. He said tough. I then asked him, you get good grades, right? Work hard? You expect to make money, right? "Yes" and stay in NYC "Yes" you want to be a business man like my dad? (My dad had been a class speaker previously for people interested in business) "Yes" My dad keeps like 40 cents on the dollar out of his paycheck. If he had been eating or drinking, he would have spit it across the room. "What the FUCK!?" yeah... 60% of his money is taxed away, most of it for "social programs" He doesn't make a fraction of what Trump makes, but has a comfortable life, of course.

I ran into him a few years ago, we talked briefly, and the first thing I asked him was he still a Democrat like he was at 17. He smiled and said hell no.

I actually hope things get worse. I 100% hope we have a major issue and the two sides can fight it out, once and for all. I mean that 100%. I know what sides going to win. I highly doubt that will happen. Extreme liberals will throw tantrums for a while longer, a shop will be smashed here and a Trump supporter beat up there, media won't really cover it, things will go on as usual.

As for qualified people, as its been said, the "qualified" people (long time government people)have not worked out. Lets give Trump's idea of using a few very rich people and just plain smart people who aren't politicians a chance.

[Ghostpanther]

Great to see Trump as President. I hope he is successful and only time will tell if he is. May he prosper greatly during his term(s).

[Berengil]

I know one group who will. The moment Trump becomes a thorn in their side and more risk to them than the reward of being their golden scapegoat. I would not put it beyond the Republican party to invoke chapter 4 of the 25th amendment and have him ruled unfit and give the presidency to Pence anyways while getting a few ticks up on the approval ratings for getting rid of him. All while enjoying the fucked up decisions he made and took the blame for that they have no intention of removing.

He isn't one of them and is prideful and ignorant enough to be easily manipulated. He is the best scapegoat they could possibly hope for.

Fugus, I don't think they would dare. They would have to realize that if the GOP establishment did so, they would get slaughtered in the next house/senate elections as the Trump base stays home.

[Medusa Cascade]

Hail to the king baby

[Thepersona]

I don't really care about gay people (terrible lifestyle), as for racial minorities: I don't think Trump is a racist.

I also don't think he's going to make gay marriage illegal again, so yeah.

This is weird... i thought that being homosexual (gay or lesbian) was more of a random thing to happen to you, its like being born left handed or right handed, not a lifestyle option per se.
And for minorities, considering the bid for voter supression in the mostly black counties and gerrymandering of his party?

[Wolfheart9]

Great to see Trump as President. I hope he is successful and only time will tell if he is. May he prosper greatly during his term(s).

Would far rather the country prosper rather than he alone.

[Fugus]

Well he's already in violation of the constitution which is unarguably an impeachable offense. The only reason they won't do it is because Trump is popular with their regressive base. Once the honeymoon wears off and Trump scandals start to dominate the headlines I'm expecting it to happen.

That is the thing, they can actually remove him without even impeaching him. Section 4 of the 25th Amendment.

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

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Fugus, I don't think they would dare. They would have to realize that if the GOP establishment did so, they would get slaughtered in the next house/senate elections as the Trump base stays home.

Like I said, they would let him ride till he became a huge liability to them doing something stupid like trying to default on the national debt or until he becomes so hated that even the majority of his own base want him gone.

Then they remove him and claim it was them and actually get a tick up in the popularity scale for removing him but still getting all the fucked up shit he did for them to stay. The longer he stays, the more his voters will actually start to hate him when the results of his actual plans and policies hit home to them.

[Ghostpanther]

Would far rather the country prosper rather than he alone.

If he prospers in terms of accomplishing his goals during his Presidential term, the country will prosper.

[Xandrigity]

The only thing this parade is missing is some monster trucks!

[Wyrt]

I fully, 100% agree with America First/Buy American & Hire American as the guiding lights of our foreign and economic policies. I fully agree with Trump when he said "Protection will lead to great prosperity and strength." Another president ( Abraham Lincoln ) said " Give us a protective tariff, and we will have the greatest nation on Earth."

Unless it comes with increases in wages it'll just cause more American poverty as the price of goods would increase. And we all know how Republicans feel about the minimum wage and labor unions.

[Berengil]

until he becomes so hated that even the majority of his own base want him gone.

I can't imagine what in the name of God would make this happen. I've talked to some of these people in person, and their level of devotion is beyond reason.

[Thepersona]

Most of the employees in places like Apple, Google, MS, Intel, IBM, SpaceX, etc, are liberal.

I can show you the money, if you wish, and how each company contributes (as a whole) and individually.

Most of the employes where I work, (a tech company out of Japan, I will let you guess which one), has mostly Liberals, or Libertarians working here.

Do you think Steve Jobs was a conservative? Elon Musk? Paul Alan? Steve Wozniak?

Problem with conservative thought is that it tends to stay "inside the box". There is a reason why most artists, poets, musicians, etc, are left leaning, or libertarian.

Even ayn rand, the mother of modern republicanism was a libertarian at heart, she didnt like any god meddling the state, and was an atheist

[JohnBrown1917]

As a man who voted for Bernie in the primaries ( and Clinton in the general election), I found little in Trump's address that disturbed me. My vote for Bernie was mainly on his economic message, which BTW he shares with Trump and has pledged to work with him on. My vote for Clinton was me holding my nose.

I fully, 100% agree with America First/Buy American & Hire American as the guiding lights of our foreign and economic policies. I fully agree with Trump when he said "Protection will lead to great prosperity and strength." Another president ( Abraham Lincoln ) said " Give us a protective tariff, and we will have the greatest nation on Earth."

My only concerns are gay rights and the rights of racial minorities. But of course no 2 people on Earth will ever be in 100% agreement, so I am willing to give him a chance while I respect the office he now holds.

@Taftvalue : Do you have any words to say about my 2 concerns I've underlined above? I'd be interested to hear what a Trump supporter thinks of Trump's plans are on those 2 points.

huh? They are extremely far apart on economic policies.

[Santti]

If he prospers in his Presidential term, the country will prosper.

I kind of doubt that. He's a businessman, and will absolutely do his best to deepen his pockets and those in the 1%, and I haven't seen trickle down economics work all that great so far.

[Berengil]

huh? They are extremely far apart on economic policies.

Then, pray tell, why has Bernie repeatedly said he can work with Trump on economic policy?

[mage21]

Yup, throughout the past 8ish months whenever friends have joked about being happy with a Trump assassination, I've been careful to remind them that despite his gross ignorance and dangerous levels of unpredictability, he may actually be the lesser of the two evils between them.

I think if you consider the LGBT movement to be the foremost of importance, then I think you might be right. If you ranked the most important issues and did not rank LGBT issues as highly as a few others, then Pence would likely be a better, more competent president than Trump.