Will this be considered a stain in American history?

[ati87]

Obama has brought the US into more conflict than any other president, he's ordered over 10X more drone strikes than even Bush did - Over 26'000 bombs dropped in 2016 alone. +He's sold more weapons than any other administration before - mostly to countries with records of huge human rights abuses.

NO PROTESTS. FOR ANY OF IT. Half of USA would high five him as the greatest president ever.

Trump says some misogynistic comment, everyone goes crazy and there are thousand person protests in major cities around the world.

This will definitely be remembered as a time when everyone lost their frigin minds, but not because people voted for trumps

Obama didn't start a full scale war that destroyed entire countries.

You can blame Obama for those random drone strikes in Pakistan but those are nothing compared to the Afghanistan and Iraq who are still feeling the consequences of the Bush administration.

And like if the Bush and Trump voter minded those drone strikes, if anything they hate Obama for not invading Iran.

[CptEgo]

The stain I see resulting from Trumpys victory
Is the marches and protests against Democracy

President Trump was democratically elected
Democracy is what the USA believes in and projects to other countries.

Wasn't really democracy was it? He didn't get the most votes. That's not democracy.

[rosebull]

Wasn't really democracy was it? He didn't get the most votes. That's not democracy.

I feel like this is troll bait, but i'll bite.

America is a Democratic Republic. You get elected based off the electoral college, theirs many reasons we don't use the popular vote. This isn't a thread about the electoral college though so.

So yea, trump was literally "really" elected.

Edit:

de·moc·ra·cy
dəˈmäkrəsē/
noun
a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.


^ for the record.

[CptEgo]

I feel like this is troll bait, but i'll bite.

America is a Democratic Republic. You get elected based off the electoral college, theirs many reasons we don't use the popular vote. This isn't a thread about the electoral college though so.

So yea, trump was literally "really" elected.

Well, congratulations to all you Trump voters. I really hope that Trump destroys all the great things Obama did for you, so you can see the huge mistake you made. America has always been insane, but you've really outdone yourselves this time.

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500.000 people are protesting against trump.

[ati87]

Well, congratulations to all you Trump voters. I really hope that Trump destroys all the great things Obama did for you, so you can see the huge mistake you made. America has always been insane, but you've really outdone yourselves this time.

You're given them to much credit.

Those Trump supporters entirely forgot the Bush era and the crap they left behind, anything bad that happens now will be blamed on obama even if he left the US in a much better state than what he received from BUsh.

[Thepersona]

500.000 people are protesting against trump.

More than on his inauguriation party.

Its still less than the chilean 2011 march tho... 1 million ppl marching, 500k in the capital. cmon US you csn do better!

[Sinyc]

Actually from what I am seeing these are VERY grass roots efforts. People who I know who have never been political and activist are getting political and activist.

Sure, more people are getting political and becoming "activists", but it's not grass roots. Or at least most of them aren't.

http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womeninth...on-washington/

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How do you know?

http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womeninth...on-washington/

Do you really pretend "Trump isnt that bad?"

When did I ever say anything remotely close to that?

Did you listen to his inauguriation speech? Do you actually understand what he plans to do?

I have not listened to it in full, so I can't answer that.

Take a look at Turkey. This is the way trump is trying to take.

With the CIA trying to overthrow the government? That doesn't sound good.

[ujx]

500.000 people are protesting against trump.

More than on his inauguriation party.

Wrong

[Xandrigity]

Yep, how the democrats have acted like petulant children will be a stain on our history.

[Kujako]

Less of a stain, than a skid mark.

[alexw]

Sure, more people are getting political and becoming "activists", but it's not grass roots. Or at least most of them aren't.

http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womeninth...on-washington/

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http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womeninth...on-washington/


When did I ever say anything remotely close to that?


I have not listened to it in full, so I can't answer that.


With the CIA trying to overthrow the government? That doesn't sound good.

???????

You do realize that George Soros is only one person and so at max can make up only one of the people in those crowds? That's even, given his age, being generous and saying he's one of those out there.

[rosebull]

Well, congratulations to all you Trump voters. I really hope that Trump destroys all the great things Obama did for you, so you can see the huge mistake you made. America has always been insane, but you've really outdone yourselves this time.

Reason #2 why dems lost.

Assuming everyone who doesn't preach hate about trump voted for trump. Honestly trump was handed this election by the left lol.

[Belize]

500.000 people are protesting against trump.

More than on his inauguriation party.

That's in DC alone too.

[Spectral]

500.000 people are protesting against trump.

Are they? These sorts of estimates have a pretty dubious history. Also, the anti-abortion nuts seem to get about that much every year and no one seems to much give a shit about their histrionics. I wonder why this gets so much more coverage?

[alexw]

Wrong

Hilarious. I love the "angle" used so as to make it seem the crowd is larger than it actually is. Here is an overhead photo from midday (the inauguration ceremony started at 11.30am). For example look at the area around the first white tent in both pictures.

[Xandrigity]

Hilarious. I love the "angle" used so as to make it seem the crowd is larger than it actually is. Here is an overhead photo from midday.

Nah not at the same time panning out on the top image still,shows conciderably more people.

[alexw]

Nah not at the same time panning out on the top image still,shows conciderably more people.

Yes it is. It was taken at midday and the ceremony started at 11.30am.

Look at the white area near the white tent in the first picture. It looks like there is some empty space there. Now look at the second picture and you see how much empty space there actually is.

[Zeek Daniels]

The thing is that neither Clinton nor any of the bushs were alt-right fascists that got into office with racist bigotry empowered by russian propaganda.

So yes, i think it will be a stain in history books. Or "the great new start of america", considering the idea that winners tell history. And if trump wins at the end, history will tell the story from his point of view.

you
people act like there was not a single african american, asian american, latino american, or any other non Caucasian, that voted for Trump. He didnt get into office with racist bigotry thats the story the media shoves down your throats. Plenty of presidents have been voted into office by racists. You guys act like only white people can be racist.

As a black man i see plenty of black racists. As for him being empowered by russian propaganda, again your buying what the media is selling. Im sure previous presidents of the US didnt have the support of foreign nations before huh? But soon as Russia likes you then your evil.

[Xandrigity]

Yes it is. It was taken at midday and the ceremony started at 11.30am.

Agree to disagree