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    How I see Forsaken's future

    Since the Forsaken can not reproduce and Sylvanas's is running low on valkyries and her plan in Stormheim being thwarted, therace she leads might be facing extinction...
    Now there a few different ways of how it might go from there like people saying she is gonna become a new Lich Queen since the Lich King himself can raise dead. But the other which I think would be interesting is that she might be rewarded for something she is about to do in the future or attain the power herself to give her people flesh making then literally humans again... This wouldn't change anything in Forsaken being part of Alliance, they will just be humans again solving the issue of Forsaken's extinction... They might add a new racial as a flavor similar to that of a worgen to be able to transform from human back to undead and vice versa (even though lore-wise this wouldn't have been possible since they would be given a flesh, I'm suggesting this just for the gameplay reasons since Undead would be a playable race for like forever by then). As for two human races being in a different factions I don't think would be much of the problem since we see that happening even right now with blood elves and high elves which are as well the same race...

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    I suppose they could pull a Darksouls, but instead of making them 'immortal', they could make it so the closer they are to death (wounds, sickness etc) the more of their undead nature is showing, and they can sustain their humanity by eating the souls(humanity) of others, but the process is slow, so one soul could sustain them for years. Instead of cannibalise they could have like some sort of soul drain etc. This would keep the dark nature of the forsaken without making them a generic human race (lorewise)

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    In the long run (i.e.: not within WoW's period), I see the Forsaken becoming rarer and rarer, then slipping into the shadows and becoming a "high class" of immortal rulers over a living population that would serve them. Lordaeron would be reborn , but the true rulers would be hiding in the dark of the Undercity.

    This new Forsaken would study necromancy to create more of themselves, thus "blessing" underlings with undeath from time to time, but not enough to quickly replenish their numbers.

    Some factions of Forsaken would rise: one that would advocate that they need to foster a living community and accept the undead Forsaken to die out; other trying to develop their necromancy in order to return the Forsaken to their former glory under Sylvanas, and a third one that is just happy to rule over the living as a high caste of "advanced" beings.

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    This is what becomes of the Forsaken in the future;


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    Would love to see an updated storyline on lordaeron for sure, gives a good reason to update the world there as well (north coast/stratholme/quel thalas all seamlessly connected).

    Hope they don't go the boring route and make sylvanas into another garrosh power hungry old god/void corrupted being.

    Maybe a continuation of the Odyn/Eyir story would clear things up a bit, clearly the plot failed to convert Eyir but we don't know what happened after, only that Odyn is free to go now.
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    The way I see it playing out is that there is no way to cure undeath, but just because your ORIGINAL body is rotting doesn't mean that you are doomed. Sylvanas existed as a spirit before rejoining with her original body. So if the Forsaken found a way to leave their own body and possess another, it would solve their undeath problem. So who would they possess? Another dead human would still be dead, but if they made their own...

    Imagine this. Deep within the Undercity, the Apothecaries pump out a bioengineered soulless body. No need for rest, it gets charged with electricity via Frankenstein-esque neckbolts. It has the ability to reproduce, comes in male and female forms, and looks somewhat like an attractive gargoyle. Now, the Forsaken mass produce these babies and perform some sort of mass ritual to transfer over to the new bodies. They still retain the Forsaken gothic aesthetic, solve the reproduction problem, and add more depth and possibilities to the story now that Sylvanas has something on her mind other than her and her kingdom's survival.

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    quick note here, Forsaken don't rot, the shadow magic that reanimated them keeps them in the state they were in.
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    Just bust into Mogu'shan Vaults and steal the spiritbinder techniques.

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    There's also whatever process happened with Nathanos to change him from your standard Forsaken into a more human model with glowing red eyes. The change is mostly glossed over in Legion but it is remarked on during the Broken Shore's closing scenario Horde-side - with Nathanos being typically opaque on it. I would imagine whatever processes went on there could possibly be done for the rest of the rank and file Forsaken.
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    Or undeath could become a normal thing in the Horde, to the point that becoming a Forsaken become a staple on the Horde culture, given their people the option, that after death, they will come back as Undeath, to serve and protect their family... to the bitter end

    Most likely this will become more common with some races of the horde (more than others), lets say it will be more common to see Blood Elves and Goblins being ok with this and have others, like Taurens be more on the No No side of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    Just bust into Mogu'shan Vaults and steal the spiritbinder techniques.
    Yeah, that was a missed opportunity right there. Especially since Blizzard already included the theme of salvaging Mogu secrets in the expansion (and carried it all the way to the Legion in Blood Elves' case).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    Yeah, that was a missed opportunity right there. Especially since Blizzard already included the theme of salvaging Mogu secrets in the expansion (and carried it all the way to the Legion in Blood Elves' case).
    Meh, rather than playing with all weak magic just use technology. Somethin like this:
    https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2070021

    You know, few extra parts here, few here, some augumentations, some tuning up. And hey, if you need 3 old models to make 1 new one go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Meh, rather than playing with all weak magic just use technology. Somethin like this:
    https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2070021

    You know, few extra parts here, few here, some augumentations, some tuning up. And hey, if you need 3 old models to make 1 new one go for it.
    Pretty much what abominations and flesh giants are, sans the intelligence of your typical Forsaken specimen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    There's also whatever process happened with Nathanos to change him from your standard Forsaken into a more human model with glowing red eyes. The change is mostly glossed over in Legion but it is remarked on during the Broken Shore's closing scenario Horde-side - with Nathanos being typically opaque on it. I would imagine whatever processes went on there could possibly be done for the rest of the rank and file Forsaken.
    It seems like that he used a form of possesion, like the old Warcraft 3 banshee spell. The Forsaken faction would proberly lose much of their identity, if they all just became ghosts and stole the bodies of humans and elfs, dead or alive.

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    Personally, i think that being "undead" is a huge part of the identity of the Forsaken. If they somehow became more alive or looked more like the living, they would be less unique and less interesting. The great thing about the Forsaken is that they are outsiders and for a very good reason. They are different from the other races on Azeroth and will never be able to meet them on equal ground, because one side is immortal undead and the other side is living and vulnerable to time. '

    So if Blizzard "cured" the forsaken of their blight, the story would lose alot of its flare and they would become boringly normal.
    May the lore be great and the stories interesting. A game without a story, is a game without a soul. Value the lore and it will reward you with fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flurryfang View Post

    Personally, i think that being "undead" is a huge part of the identity of the Forsaken. If they somehow became more alive or looked more like the living, they would be less unique and less interesting.
    The problem i think is that blizzard went way overboard with visible bones on models - especially the fact that they are mandatory. If you had option to play chinese-censored version as base model and then made all damage/visible bones as features it would be much better. The fact that blizzard changed nathanos model shows that even they have second thoughts about forsaken models. They could make them look undead in various diffrent ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    The problem i think is that blizzard went way overboard with visible bones on models - especially the fact that they are mandatory. If you had option to play chinese-censored version as base model and then made all damage/visible bones as features it would be much better. The fact that blizzard changed nathanos model shows that even they have second thoughts about forsaken models. They could make them look undead in various diffrent ways.
    The thing is, that Nathanos model is kind of shit for a forsaken model. He is just human with pala skin and red eyes, that is all... I would welcome a new undead model, but they have to make them look really dead and show, that you don't just become a mummy when you die, but that your body decompose undtil you are ressed.
    May the lore be great and the stories interesting. A game without a story, is a game without a soul. Value the lore and it will reward you with fun!

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    so cure for undeath and humans become part of the horde? i don't think they can do that from a gameplay perspective to just remove the undead character model.

    Quote Originally Posted by BeerWolf View Post
    This is what becomes of the Forsaken in the future;

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    well, again. they can't just remove undead from the game so that'll never happen. the game demands the lore keep the race as playable..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Racthoh View Post
    well, again. they can't just remove undead from the game so that'll never happen. the game demands the lore keep the race as playable..

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