Japan: No refugees, we must look after our own citizens first.

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I may be wrong but Japan didn't fuck the ME up like Europe and USA so don't really have a moral obligation (i may be wrong)

[Deleted]

Good for Japan. I'm also of the opinion that countries should look after their own citizens before anyone else.

The hypocrisy of one from a nation of emigrants.

[Lulbalance]

People are still surprised when japs are selfish... I dunno. Maybe raise the bar a bit.

[Darsithis]

Then what do you suggest? Help everyone else first and have your own citizens 'surviving'? I hope you never get to be a leader of a country, everyone would rather be on a neighbouring one.

It's not an all or nothing situation. You can do both.

We're not going to solve unemployment and homelessness overnight, and certainly not by ignoring everyone else.

[ParanoiD84]

They dont need to take people from wartorn nations you know, plenty of other immigration to be found.

[Deleted]

Then what do you suggest? Help everyone else first and have your own citizens 'surviving'? I hope you never get to be a leader of a country, everyone would rather be on a neighbouring one.

So, whom from your family lives in France?

[TITAN308]

I may be wrong but Japan didn't fuck the ME up like Europe and USA so don't really have a moral obligation (i may be wrong)

I would imagine these countries providing a power barrier (so to say) of being their ally brings them into the fold.

[Sentynel]

How dare they not accept 3rd world trash into their country. Must be racist , bigots, homophobes, misogynistic.

Haha. So much this lol. I agree 100%.

[TITAN308]

We're not going to solve unemployment...

So... bring in tens of thousands (or even hundreds of thousands) of extra bodies isn't going to compound this particular example?

[Saverem]

Source: Faux News Dislcaimer



I'm not oppose to the idea of sending money vs bringing in bodies. However I know there are a ton of Japanese culture fans here and I wonder how they will balance their love of Japan vs. Japan refusing refugees.

Actually, this just makes me love and respect Japan more. NOTICE ME BAKA NIPPON SENPAI!!!!

[Independent voter]

The Japanese are xenophobes, the US is the opposite of that and I think it's benefitted the US greatly. Steve Job's dad is Syrian, Trump's mom was a Scot, etc.

[Darkeon]

So, whom from your family lives in France?

Not even a person from my family, fortunately. The few that did move during the dictatorship are all back safe and sound.
Interesting thing is, the Portuguese people that went there, didn't got any special perks at arrival. They worked hard for survival, they adapted and, more often than not, merged with the local society.

That's usually what happens when we are connecting people from similar mentalities and core values.

[Rennadrel]

Japan doing the right thing and leading by example.

[Caelia]

Yep, although naturally those who think we should follow Sweden's 'example' would/will disagree.

As someone from Sweden I think we should follow their example as well, at least until infrastructure catches up.
While we have massive amounts of available land in this country we don't have enough housing or infrastructure, I mean the average wait for a contract to a rental apartment in the nations capital Stockholm and it's suburbs is 13 YEARS, in Lund and Uppsala the wait is 7 years on average.
If you're looking to buy there's obviously no waiting list but you should be able to put down $40-50k up front and of course be elegible for a loan of at least $300k (based on prices in Stockholm)

[Darkeon]

Why though? It's not you vs them. This line of reasoning is always flawed anyway. Countries like the US are perfectly capable of looking out for their own citizens and more. People act like we're going to have to throw out a citizen for every refugee we bring in.

Resources are not infinite. If you give the minimum required to survival to someone new, that's resources that could be being given to that own country's citizens in need.

[TITAN308]

Countries like the US are perfectly capable of looking out for their own citizens and more.

I believe this statement is true if you believe printing off more money is the answer to everything. I dunno, your statement just seems a little over simplistic for me at least.

[NED funded]

We are a nation of Refugees and Immigrants. Japan is not. In fact Japan really does not like people moving to Japan. And has never liked it historically. Their Nation is small, and lacks the resources to handle more people.

The US however relies on immigrants. Nearly every single person living here has a history of immigrants in their families. And we do not base our immigrant hate on Logic, or historical precedent. Our reason currently is, "I'm a Republican, and I hate people who aren't me".

I'm not disagreeing. We are a nation of refugees and immigrants, but immigrants were denied acces if they were not deemed american enough.

[Prokne]

Quite simple, Japan has two major problems, lack of space and the lowest birthrate in the world (after Monaco, a Casino city). So, they need to fix their endemic problems first.

Besides that, Japanese are traditionally xenophobics.

That last problem, aging population, can be partially alleviated by allowing more people to immigrate to their country.

[taliey]

Oh look, an immigration thread.

Haven't had those before.

[NED funded]

Why though? It's not you vs them. This line of reasoning is always flawed anyway. Countries like the US are perfectly capable of looking out for their own citizens and more. People act like we're going to have to throw out a citizen for every refugee we bring in.

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I guess I should have read one page further, you seem to be on of the people that think this.

Japan is perfectly capable of taking care of their own and more. And with low birthrates they should be bringing people, not excluding them out of a xenophobic sentiment.